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Wednesday, November 19, 2025

If the political parties continue to break down the norms in their quest for power, they will find that they win a lot of battles but lose the war for the American republic. This was exemplified in the wholly pointless Democrat-inspired shutdown for nearly 50 days that created massive doubt in the voters' minds of both parties. While Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer and the Democratic Party's left flank were clearly the instigators, the reaction of the voters was simple " if these two parties can't even keep the government open, a pox on both of them.

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For perspective's sake, authors Mark Penn and Andrew Stein are relics from NYC's endless tribal wars. Stein is an adjudicated tax evader and Penn helped run Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign into the ground. Caveat emptor.

#1 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-11-19 12:59 PM | Reply

"A Republic if you can keep it".

Yov've got a lot of damned gall.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2025-11-19 01:00 PM | Reply

"both parties"

Drink!

#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-19 01:01 PM | Reply

Oh look everyone!

The Pedo Loving Bootlicker is back to say Dems are bad for doing something Republicans have done repeatedly!

And all while ignoring everything Trump does!

Being this transparently hypocritical takes a lot of courage, Jeff!

But not nearly as much courage as you saying raping underage girls is perfectly acceptable. To be so open about your support for rape and pedophilia, that took guts on your part!

#4 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-11-19 01:05 PM | Reply

#4. You are a bore and really sho7ld drop your faux moral superiority when it comes to sexual predators in the Oval Office. We all remember how you turds supported Clinton and attacked his victims.

Of course, none of you refute anything in the linked article. . It's ALL personal attacks. It's all any of you have these days.

#5 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-11-19 01:16 PM | Reply

It's ALL personal attacks.

The article? It'd just attacks on Democrats in general, not so much personal.

#6 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-11-19 01:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#3 ... "both parties" ...

Yeah, that's what I noticed when I started reading the cited article.

As usual, it seems, the article trying to conflate the actions of the Republicans and the Democrats in a failed attempt to justify what the Republicans are doing.


#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-19 01:36 PM | Reply

#5 No need to refute a damn thing. We're not a republic.

We are a democratic republic.

You're welcome.

#8 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-19 02:17 PM | Reply

BullBringer votes for Republicans because he supports cutting taxes for billionaires - who exploit their employees. While also supporting cutting the services our taxes pays for.

Heaven forbid the rich lose their subsidies ...

BullBringer.

Most Americans want our taxes paying for healthcare for all and food for the hungry.

It's garbage, ignorant people like you who are destroying America.

Maybe another $40 billion for Argentina will make America great again.

#9 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-11-19 02:33 PM | Reply

Of course, none of you refute anything in the linked article.
#5 | Posted by BellRinger

How might one go about refuting an opinion?

Of course, there are some facts which are extremely doubtful, like "President Trump successfully dismantled the Iranian nuclear sites with a daring military raid." Trump's own Department of War did not claim this, nor was the attack on multiple sites. So this is just a lie, to set up the next half of that sentence, another lie -- "and that should have received uniform praise."

Why should an unprovoked and unauthorized-by-Congress military strike against a sovereign nation receive uniform praise? I can't imagine Rand Paul praising it. Or anyone who believes in the rule of law. Or anyone who believes negotiation is superior to violence.

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-19 02:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Instead, the Democrats played politics even with what should have been a united front against a nuclear Iran."

Oh come on. Trump is the one who did that, when he unilaterally abandoned the six nations deal, and not for any strategic reason, but because a black man who is a smarter and more effective leader did it, and he couldn't stand living in a black man's shadow.

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-19 02:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Matt Ford's essay " The American People Voted for Jeffrey Epstein: The emerging mosaic of elite scandal tells an unflattering story of how far we've allowed our republic to stray from its founding ideals" (newrepublic.com) has some serious thinking fueling it, especially with respect to the "elites" with whom Epstein associated and MAGA.

It would be tempting to dismiss the Epstein scandals as a purely elite phenomenon. But this is the society for which the American people have voted. The 2016 election could once be dismissed as a constitutional fluke since most Americans voted for Trump's opponent. The 2024 election is more definitional. This country had nearly a decade of experience with Trump in power"the corruption, the lies, the bigotry and misogyny and abuse and violence"and welcomed more of it.

At its core, Trumpism is a permission structure for evil. It is the abolition of ethical norms and the erasure of moral authority. It defies checks and balances, rejecting the notion that power can be abused or corrupted because it justifies itself. Trumpism is not really about immigration, or inflation, or trade, or draining the swamp, or building the wall"it is ultimately about the dark thrill of abusing those whom its adherents consider to be inferiors, either directly or by proxy.

This is why the second Trump administration is populated with such ghoulish figures.

#12 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-11-19 02:53 PM | Reply

"As with the Republicans who refused to eliminate the filibuster here, they all need to realize that the key to governance is cooperation and collaboration, not combat."

The "Better Dead than Democrat" Republicans have neither the inclination nor the ability to cooperate and collaborate with anyone but child molesters.

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-19 02:54 PM | Reply

This carries over for Ford into the idea undergirding the creation of the American experiment with a republican form of government.

In Trump's America, all of us are not created equal. There is a hierarchy atop which the Lutnicks and Kennedys and Thiels and Musks of the world can prosper, free from government regulation or union negotiations or press scrutiny or law enforcement investigations. Everyone else is part of a underclass whom the wealthy can abuse and immiserate at their own discretion. The Epstein emails give the rest of us a glimpse into this world, where even the most grotesque crimes can be forgiven or ignored out of a sense of elite solidarity"at least until they become too publicly awkward to privately sustain"and where amorality is required to participate.

The Founders were not without their own sins, of course, but at least they had higher aspirations for their new nation. "Avarice, ambition, revenge, and licentiousness would break the strongest cords of our Constitution, as a whale goes through a net," Adams once wrote to another friend. "Our Constitution was made only for a moral ... people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." So far, Americans are failing that test"and the republic itself.

#14 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-11-19 02:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral ... people."

The Founders were huge believers in Loyalty Oaths.
This site is full of Republican men who have sworn that Oath before G-d and don't believe a word of it.
Republican men are not moral people. They view morals as a weakness, an obstacle to overcome on their way to success.

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-19 02:57 PM | Reply

The end of democracy and the defeat of the American Revolution will occur when government falls into the hands of lending institutions and moneyed incorporations.

Thomas Jefferson

The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history, whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite.

Thomas Jefferson

The cornerstone of democracy rests on the foundation of an educated electorate.

Thomas Jefferson

The country is headed toward a single and splendid government of an aristocracy founded on banking institutions and moneyed incorporations and if this tendency continues it will be the end of freedom and democracy, the few will be ruling...I hope we shall...crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations which dare already to challenge our government to trial and bid defiance to the laws of our country. I sincerely believe that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies.

Thomas Jefferson

#16 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-19 03:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"By simultaneously waging war on American higher education and the federal government's research-funding infrastructure, Trump and his allies apparently hope to de-educate millions of Americans and force them into menial, low-wage industrial jobs," writes Matt Ford.

"The army of millions and millions of human beings screwing in little screws to make iPhones"that kind of thing is going to come to America," Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick bragged to CNBC in April. Americans, he argued, are now destined for a form of industrial serfdom. "This is the new model, where you work in these plants for the rest of your life, and your kids work here, and your grandkids work here," he later rejoiced in an interview in May ... .

Trump's America, all of us are not created equal. There is a hierarchy atop which the Lutnicks and Kennedys and Thiels and Musks of the world can prosper, free from government regulation or union negotiations or press scrutiny or law enforcement investigations. Everyone else is part of a underclass whom the wealthy can abuse and immiserate at their own discretion. The Epstein emails give the rest of us a glimpse into this world, where even the most grotesque crimes can be forgiven or ignored out of a sense of elite solidarity"at least until they become too publicly awkward to privately sustain"and where amorality is required to participate.
newrepublic.com


#17 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-11-19 03:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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