-Democrats are much more mixed, with progressives, liberals, moderates, and even some conservatives counting themselves as Democrats.

Pretty sell said. This is what I actually admire about the Democratic party.

It's the hardliners or Lumpers as Oneiron puts it that are frustrated with it.

And because they see the GOP as being a bit less fragmented (or at least they appear that way) they feel like they are entitled to more a more cohesive and consistent viewpoint on issues from their base.

But it's not been that way.

And again.....this is what I admire about the Democratic party.

-Having at least some boundaries on morals, ethics... following the Law, respecting others different than one's self?

It means it's better than the alternative of joining the GOP but it also means they'll stay home on election day or distance themselves from the Dems on certain issues.....while still being a dem.

-But I'm pretty sure it's meant as a pejorative for democrats.

You mean like "MAGAt"? "Red State --------"? or a dozen or more terms I'll see you use?

Are terms like that out of bounds?

If it simply means hardliners then is it okay? Or that he means it to be a little backhanded.......not cool?

You don't like people being mean to you?

-You used it to mean "hardliners".

Only 1 poster here uses it. I'm assuming that's the reference. He can answer for himself. He's explained it before but I don't remember what he said.

-But then you, as typical, chose to play the victim.

in a conversation with you, that's literally not possible. You run to the victim corner before anyone else can get there.

I can't even remember how many victim boxes you check.

-The white men who vote for them are delusional enough to think they will benefit somehow.

what about the hispanics, blacks, gays, and the women who vote for them?

so....blacks, hispanics, gays, and women are....delusional?

-Are you confused when I use terms like "MAGAt" or "red state --------"?

not at all. You're using a pejorative term like you believe "Lumper" to be.

BTW, I'm not convinced I can help myself much on election day.

I don't view my vote as being selfishly trying to benefit myself.

I view it as an opportunity to benefit folks who are much more vulnerable to who wins elections.

My rights aren't in jeopardy, my marriage isn't at risk, my job isn't a risk based on who wins elections, I'm fortunate to have stable healthcare, etc. I have the financial freedom to relocate for any reason I see fit.

Despite accusations to the contrary, I recognize many here and everywhere are extremely vulnerable to election outcomes.

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Fine, then what am I vulnerable to, specifically?

What are YOU vulnerable to, specifically?

Now, before you answer, remember...you don't have to.

If you're just interested in tossing spitwads but not be taken seriously, like usual...then walk away now.

Answer both of my questions thoroughly and concisely and without any deliberate vague references to spiders or visions of evil.

I'm aware Trump is mean. Don't paint me a picture. I see just fine.

-But you won't let yourself understand fully how mean.

That's pretty deep.

I get hassled for telling others what they think, how they feel, etc.

Turns out, nobody really has a problem with it....because those same people will ignore that and instead accept that it's perfectly fine to tell others such things.

You're free to assign anything you want to me. Today, I won't "let myself understand fully how mean" Trump is.

Not sure how I can do that. Not sure how I can satisfy you, Zed.

But what do you understand about government contracts and how vulnerable they are?

I'll leave you alone, Zed.

Because I know you won't answer those questions.

-It's definitely meant to be a pejorative.

maybe he should use words like -------, ------, Reza, etc. so you're not confused as to the intent.

I think that's pretty harsh.

but that's just me.

-Maybe "Reza" means something to you.

It doesn't. But I've seen it used against you, so I assume it's specific to you.