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The Republican Party has a clear base: straight white Christian working-class men (and their wives, who typically vote as their husbands do). There are other groups that vote Republican, too, like evangelicals, but they are a bit of an awkward fit because their religion teaches them things the Republicans hate (like that you should help the poor). Republicans intuitively know that if there were honest and free elections everywhere, with no gerrymandering, no voter suppression and no monkey business of any kind, with every vote counted no matter when it arrived, Democrats would probably have most of the power in most places most of the time. Consequently, Republican voters tend to fall in line quickly.

#1 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-07-13 01:28 PM | Reply

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For the Democrats, the situation is very different: There is no dominant base. The party's voters include large groups of Black voters, Latinos, Asian Americans, and other racial minorities, along with LGBTQ voters, Jews, affluent college-educated suburbanites, single women and young voters. There are also some urban union members who are still Democrats. And while the vast majority of Republicans identify as conservative, Democrats are much more mixed, with progressives, liberals, moderates, and even some conservatives counting themselves as Democrats.

#2 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-07-13 01:31 PM | Reply

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In contrast, Republican leaders have no problem offending Black, gay and trans people, and others outside their core demographic, since they don't expect any votes from them, and their (increasingly male) base doesn't mind offending people and getting into fights.

#3 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-07-13 01:32 PM | Reply

So why do they keep Winning Elections if they alienate so many demographics?

Small Tent Party wins big National Elections.

How?

Is it Because people Deep Down, Want an ------- in Charge?

Or is it Because No one is "Pure" Enough to be a Democratic Leader?

Politics is a Dirty Game. It's about things as they Are, not as They Should Be.

Americans want a Dictator, Apparently.

#4 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2026-07-13 01:44 PM | Reply

That's how they got to be leaders, I'd guess.

Are the Democrats looking for some populist to rise up from the ranks?

Americans don't want democratic socialist populists. And white won't cover it.

#5 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-07-13 01:52 PM | Reply

They were weak enough already, but they look like outright sissies compared the Big Daddy Authoritarian Gangster Gov the Republicans have given us.

Having at least some boundaries on morals, ethics... following the Law, respecting others different than one's self?

These days that's pretty much girly boy stuff.

#6 | Posted by Corky at 2026-07-13 02:00 PM | Reply

Maybe just not let one Accusation without any supporting evidence destroy political careers?

Franken,Platner whom I didn't like but still think was railroaded on BS accusations from a Republican Ex.

Nobody is Pure Enough.

Except Hillary... Lol.

#7 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2026-07-13 02:10 PM | Reply

There is no dominant base.

LOL I don't call you Lumpers for no reason.

Every lumper poster here has the same views on every topic.

Eberly, and myself stand out, but even him and I differ quite a bit on topics.

You all march to the same drum, nothing but robots for the coming feeding frenzy.

#8 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-07-13 02:14 PM | Reply

#8

Thinking you are better than everyone else here plainly explains why you aren't.

What you are is a puffed up attention troll.

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2026-07-13 02:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Every lumper poster here has the same views on every topic.

When you lie about what we believe, yes.

#10 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2026-07-13 02:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#5 DBT2 states, without any proof, that "Americans don't want democratic socialist populists."

Actually, some Americans want that very thing. Just look at Mamdani's victory in NYC.

And it is also true that there are Americans who don't want that.

Which presents the very idea behind this thread and the accompanying thread I posted.

==> (One should actually read the linked articles; apparently, some are satisfied with ignorantly commenting based only on what they think the article is saying (based on the headline), without actually reading what's written and understand the points and nuance presented by the authors. *sigh* But idiots have to be idiots.)
If Democrats are going to win in November, then Democratic Party candidates will have to campaign where their voters are. And campaign at a level their voters can understand. And they must campaign on issues that their voters can easily grasp, and easily understand the solutions being promised.

Thank you, DBT2.

#11 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-07-13 02:30 PM | Reply

One Nut.. you and Beverly lick Trump's Stinky Gaping -------.

You only stand out as a Moron and a Liar.

You think you're a "Free Spirit",and everyone else is a Robot?

I have Never seen anything from you about Trump's Obvious Corruption and Self Serving Profiteering even at the expense of Children in the case of a Cancer Charity or his own supporters that he ripped off more recently.

Name something Trump did that you find Totally Unacceptable in a President?

I don't think you can unless that President is Biden, or some other Democrat.

Like Beverly, you always give Trump a Pass that you would NEVER give Any Democrat.

GTFOH with that "Lumper" Drivel.

#12 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2026-07-13 02:30 PM | Reply

GTFOH with that "Lumper" Drivel.

He really means "Proggie".

#13 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-07-13 02:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

-Democrats are much more mixed, with progressives, liberals, moderates, and even some conservatives counting themselves as Democrats.

Pretty sell said. This is what I actually admire about the Democratic party.

It's the hardliners or Lumpers as Oneiron puts it that are frustrated with it.

And because they see the GOP as being a bit less fragmented (or at least they appear that way) they feel like they are entitled to more a more cohesive and consistent viewpoint on issues from their base.

But it's not been that way.

And again.....this is what I admire about the Democratic party.

#14 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-13 02:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Eberly, and myself stand out,
#8 | POSTED BY ONETRUMPER

Gross.

#15 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-13 02:39 PM | Reply

#14 T/Y

#16 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-07-13 02:42 PM | Reply

-Having at least some boundaries on morals, ethics... following the Law, respecting others different than one's self?

It means it's better than the alternative of joining the GOP but it also means they'll stay home on election day or distance themselves from the Dems on certain issues.....while still being a dem.

#17 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-13 02:42 PM | Reply

So why are you a Republican?

If you admire the Democrats so much.

More BS from Beverly.

You are either a liar or the most "Confused Individual" Ever.

So Self Congratulatory, So Smug, So Certain of Your Disinterested Broad Vision.

But you vote for --------.

Like Dotard,even if you Lie about it, it shows.

He's Never Wrong, to hear you tell it, only deeply "Misunderstood".

Like Yourself. Lol...

#18 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2026-07-13 03:14 PM | Reply

More threads of total stupidity..

.. Dems lost men in 2024 so they want a " man " to show their version of " toxic masculinity "... So they pay Daniel Moraff millions to come up with AND VETT graham platner... BWAAAAA

but I like platner...

. Instead of writing out 2 faced hypocritical gd ---- lying leftist trash eating scum bag liars.... I just say " platner " and normal people know what I mean.

#19 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2026-07-13 03:15 PM | Reply

------------- is an ass-gaped pissant who worships a serial------------.

#20 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2026-07-13 03:20 PM | Reply

It's the hardliners or Lumpers as Oneiron puts it
#14 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Lumpers means hardliners?

I guess that meaningless word can mean whatever you want.

Lumper should mean a person who broad brushes groups or people, lumps people together.

But I'm pretty sure it's meant as a pejorative for democrats.

#21 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-13 03:20 PM | Reply

PLATNER LATE TO SPEECH.

---disgraced Maine perv ...AND NAZI / SS FANATIC ...G. Platner was late to his announcement this wk.

It appeared to be because of a bank of porta-potties for the crowd..

... Platner also mentioned that the rape of a woman in the last pottie took longer than expected.

#22 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2026-07-13 03:23 PM | Reply

20 | Posted by reinheitsgebot

Gesus holy mother fricking lady bugger but whole eater...

--clownshack can be disgusting and despicable but at least he's interesting now and then...

You.... Are not...and never will be..

---But it's back to reports from irn... Yesterday we hit on of the HQ of the IRG. buildings around it were essentially leveled.. the HQ controlled their entire air force. I know you radical zealots join me in congratulating your soldiers in this victory.

#23 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2026-07-13 03:52 PM | Reply

-But I'm pretty sure it's meant as a pejorative for democrats.

You mean like "MAGAt"? "Red State --------"? or a dozen or more terms I'll see you use?

Are terms like that out of bounds?

If it simply means hardliners then is it okay? Or that he means it to be a little backhanded.......not cool?

You don't like people being mean to you?

#24 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-13 03:54 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

------------- is hoping to suck on Lyndsey's ladybugs.

#25 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2026-07-13 03:57 PM | Reply

Why Are Democratic Leaders So Milquetoasty?

Because they can't bite the corporate hand that feeds them.

Also, everyone loves a little AIPAC money.

The Republican Party at least stands for the destruction of America and subjugation of Americans. The white men who vote for them are delusional enough to think they will benefit somehow.

Democrats can't figure out what they're trying to accomplish, but as Mamdani is proving, it's not helping Americans that they're concerned about.

Also. On a side note.

Is Mitch McConnell even alive? Seems like Democrats aren't going to do anything to figure it out. The democratic governor of Kentucky can't be bothered to figure it out.

If Mitch was a Democrat, Republicans would be breaking down the doors to the hospital to prove he's dead.

#26 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-13 03:59 PM | Reply

You mean like "MAGAt"? "Red State --------"? or a dozen or more terms I'll see you use?
Are terms like that out of bounds?
If it simply means hardliners then is it okay? Or that he means it to be a little backhanded.......not cool?
You don't like people being mean to you?
#24 | POSTED BY EBERLY

"Out of bounds"?

Oh my goodness, you poor thing!

Are you confused when I use terms like "MAGAt" or "red state --------"?

Those terms are pretty straightforward.

"Lumpers" is a meaningless term OneTrumper uses as an insult.

You used it to mean "hardliners".

I was just trying to define what that word means.

But then you, as typical, chose to play the victim.

You poor, butthurt, thing.

#27 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-13 04:05 PM | Reply

-You used it to mean "hardliners".

Only 1 poster here uses it. I'm assuming that's the reference. He can answer for himself. He's explained it before but I don't remember what he said.

-But then you, as typical, chose to play the victim.

in a conversation with you, that's literally not possible. You run to the victim corner before anyone else can get there.

I can't even remember how many victim boxes you check.

#28 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-13 04:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

-The white men who vote for them are delusional enough to think they will benefit somehow.

what about the hispanics, blacks, gays, and the women who vote for them?

#29 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-13 04:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You mean the Stupid?

They get a Strong Man in Charge.

One who wants them to Disappear.

#30 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2026-07-13 04:25 PM | Reply

Only 1 poster here uses it. I'm assuming that's the reference. He can answer for himself. He's explained it before but I don't remember what he said.

I agree.

It's a meaningless term.

He's tried defining it.

But it's so stupid no one cares enough to remember.

#31 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-13 04:28 PM | Reply

what about the:

hispanics, blacks

They see themselves as white me.

gays

They are white men.

and the women who vote for them?
#29 | POSTED BY EBERLY

They know better than to cross their white men.

#32 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-13 04:30 PM | Reply

- what about the hispanics, blacks, gays, and the women who vote for them?

Swing voters who are abandoning DJT's Repube Party in droves, leaving him with a vast minority of popular support.

#33 | Posted by Corky at 2026-07-13 04:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

so....blacks, hispanics, gays, and women are....delusional?

#34 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-13 05:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The ones voting for republicans, thinking it's going to benefit them, are.

#35 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-13 05:34 PM | Reply

-Are you confused when I use terms like "MAGAt" or "red state --------"?

not at all. You're using a pejorative term like you believe "Lumper" to be.

#36 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-13 05:40 PM | Reply

BTW, I'm not convinced I can help myself much on election day.

I don't view my vote as being selfishly trying to benefit myself.

I view it as an opportunity to benefit folks who are much more vulnerable to who wins elections.

My rights aren't in jeopardy, my marriage isn't at risk, my job isn't a risk based on who wins elections, I'm fortunate to have stable healthcare, etc. I have the financial freedom to relocate for any reason I see fit.

Despite accusations to the contrary, I recognize many here and everywhere are extremely vulnerable to election outcomes.

#37 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-13 05:46 PM | Reply

My rights aren't in jeopardy, my marriage isn't at risk, my job isn't a risk based on who wins elections

#37 | POSTED BY EBERLY

You're in denial.

#38 | Posted by Zed at 2026-07-13 06:00 PM | Reply

You're using a pejorative term like you believe "Lumper" to be.
#36 | POSTED BY EBERLY

At least you can admit Lumpers is a meaningless term.

It's definitely meant to be a pejorative.

Just not really sure how.

#39 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-13 06:03 PM | Reply

38

Fine, then what am I vulnerable to, specifically?

What are YOU vulnerable to, specifically?

Now, before you answer, remember...you don't have to.

If you're just interested in tossing spitwads but not be taken seriously, like usual...then walk away now.

Answer both of my questions thoroughly and concisely and without any deliberate vague references to spiders or visions of evil.

I'm aware Trump is mean. Don't paint me a picture. I see just fine.

#40 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-13 06:05 PM | Reply

I'm aware Trump is mean. Don't paint me a picture. I see just fine.

#40 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Then you understand that anyone with a government contract is vulnerable?

#41 | Posted by Zed at 2026-07-13 06:08 PM | Reply

I'm aware Trump is mean.

#40 | POSTED BY EBERLY

But you won't let yourself understand fully how mean.

#42 | Posted by Zed at 2026-07-13 06:10 PM | Reply

-But you won't let yourself understand fully how mean.

That's pretty deep.

I get hassled for telling others what they think, how they feel, etc.

Turns out, nobody really has a problem with it....because those same people will ignore that and instead accept that it's perfectly fine to tell others such things.

You're free to assign anything you want to me. Today, I won't "let myself understand fully how mean" Trump is.

Not sure how I can do that. Not sure how I can satisfy you, Zed.

But what do you understand about government contracts and how vulnerable they are?

#43 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-13 06:15 PM | Reply

I'll leave you alone, Zed.

Because I know you won't answer those questions.

#44 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-13 06:15 PM | Reply

-It's definitely meant to be a pejorative.

maybe he should use words like -------, ------, Reza, etc. so you're not confused as to the intent.

I think that's pretty harsh.

but that's just me.

#45 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-13 06:19 PM | Reply

maybe he should use words like -------, ------, Reza, etc. so you're not confused as to the intent.

The first two make sense.

The third is just as meaningless as Lumper.

But who knows.

Maybe "Reza" means something to you.

Care to share?

#46 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-13 06:40 PM | Reply

-Maybe "Reza" means something to you.

It doesn't. But I've seen it used against you, so I assume it's specific to you.

#47 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-13 06:59 PM | Reply

I've seen it used against you,

OneTrumper calls me a lumper.

so I assume it's specific to you.
#47 | POSTED BY EBERLY

It's about as meaningful as me calling you Paul.

It's a name, but not my name.

But it's funny you chose it because you thought it meant something.

#48 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-13 07:12 PM | Reply

One calls me a lumper.
~ LumperShack

Fact Check: True

Lumpers is a meaningless term.

Only to the uneducated, and those that don't believe in evolution.

#49 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-07-13 07:31 PM | Reply

It's definitely meant to be a pejorative.

Not at all actually, just a name for those with a unified theory on political viewpoints.

#50 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-07-13 07:34 PM | Reply

*sigh*

Lumpers: These thinkers that view the American system as needing a comprehensive overhaul. They embrace intersectionality, the concept that climate change, abortion rights, racial equity, and economic disparity are deeply interwoven. They argue that progress on any single issue is impossible without dismantling the underlying power structures, and thus demand that all allies adopt this synoptic worldview.

Splitters: These pragmatists prefer to take one issue at a time. They are willing to accept allies for issue-specific legislative wins, like gun control or climate change"even if those allies do not share the broader, sweeping ideological goals of the lumpers.

Idiots: Those that can't tell the difference.

#51 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-07-13 07:36 PM | Reply

you read one book in your life and you're proud of it.

#52 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2026-07-13 07:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

- view the American system as needing a comprehensive overhaul.

Most obviously it does.

- They argue that progress on any single issue is impossible without dismantling the underlying power structures, and thus demand that all allies adopt this synoptic worldview.

Again obviously, they, and or we, don't argue that at all.

Your reading comprehension is hideous... you know that, don't you.

- Splitters

More of those here than the others of this arbitrary division you've spent so much time misunderstanding. Likely a record amount of time.

But hey, it gives you an excuse for your attention trolling, so there's that.

#53 | Posted by Corky at 2026-07-13 08:01 PM | Reply

The very old concept of lumping and splitting is, btw, often useful in data collection.

While a useful shorthand, the concept can feel ridiculous because it presents a false dichotomy.

Most experts agree that the ideal approach requires a mix of both. Broad categories (lumping) are used to establish general principles, while detailed distinctions (splitting) are used to uncover specific mechanisms.

Perhaps you should just keep focusing on your trolling skills, eh?

#54 | Posted by Corky at 2026-07-13 08:07 PM | Reply

"because you thought it meant something."

So you don't actually mind having thoughts assigned to others

Thanks for clarifying they. I won't forget that again

#55 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-13 08:08 PM | Reply

#54 | Posted by Corky at 2026-07-13 08:07 PM | FLAG: AI GENERATED RESPONSE

The very old concept of lumping and splitting is, btw, often useful in data collection.

Not data collection ... FFS people data categorization.

#56 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-07-13 08:16 PM | Reply

More of those here than the others of this arbitrary division you've spent so much time misunderstanding.

Its all you do Corky is misunderstand; you can't even convey your thoughts to AI and regurgitate its answers without you misunderstanding.

#57 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-07-13 08:17 PM | Reply

Again obviously, they, and or we, don't argue that at all.

You fools argue that with Madbomber, BJ even Eberly continuously about it.

#58 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-07-13 08:19 PM | Reply

I guess I have come to believe that Democratic administrations are sort of roadside rest areas that one comes upon every now and then while traveling on a highway that leads inexorably towards a Christian nationalist fascist police state.

#59 | Posted by ExpectingReign at 2026-07-13 08:20 PM | Reply

1Nut obviously can't distinguish taxonomy from taxicabs... nor admit that his false dichotomy of posters here is all in his tiny little head.

There's no real division here on the Left between those of us who want all or nothing and those who are willing to address political policies individually.

You just made that crappola up for your attention trolling... a way to separate yourself from the rest of us, because you just KNOW you are better than everyone else here.

But you not recognizing your own false dichotomies is... well, it's hilarious, really.

#60 | Posted by Corky at 2026-07-13 08:35 PM | Reply

www.science.org

#61 | Posted by Corky at 2026-07-13 08:38 PM | Reply

My god, corky is losing his shit over this.

Doesn't like the labels obviously.

It's unfair.

You poor thing. So misunderstood.

So enlightened. So above it all.

You want to stand in massive judgement of others but cry like a little girl when just a little bit of it blows back on your face.

#62 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-13 08:38 PM | Reply

-It's a name, but not my name.

Whatever. I don't call you that name. I don't care.

The only place I've seen that name was on a billboard outside Branson.

#63 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-13 08:41 PM | Reply

#62

All that word salad and not a bit of argument anywhere in it.

Are you and 1Nut having an affair? Does Mrs. Bev know?

Think of the children!!

#64 | Posted by Corky at 2026-07-13 08:42 PM | Reply

-There's no real division here on the Left between those of us who want all or nothing and those who are willing to address political policies individually.

The arguing here isn't "real division"?

What does the arguing represent then?

#65 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-13 08:43 PM | Reply

-All that word salad and not a bit of argument anywhere in it.

I know. I'm just picking on you.

Cry like the little girl you are.

#66 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-13 08:44 PM | Reply

Have another drink, Bev... cheers!

Just have the Doc check your liver, m'K?

#67 | Posted by Corky at 2026-07-13 08:47 PM | Reply

What does corky have?

Drunken female references.

Let's try again. What does the arguing here represent?

It's not real division?

The Bernie sanders vs Hillary, Kamala Harris annointed, AOC, Mamdami arguments.

Not relevant?

#68 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-13 09:00 PM | Reply

you don't actually mind having thoughts assigned to others
Thanks for clarifying they. I won't forget that again
#55 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Dude. Your favorite debate tactic is to assign people strawmen and argue against it.

You're just projecting, Beverly.

#69 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-13 09:31 PM | Reply

"assign people strawmen and argue against it."

Anytime I see you do that I'm going to point it out.

Meantime, you go on pretending it bothers you.

#70 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-13 09:44 PM | Reply

Lumpers: These thinkers that view the American system as needing a comprehensive overhaul.

So, libertarians? Social democrats? Make America Greaters? Corporate democrats? Evangelical Nationalists?

They embrace intersectionality, the concept that climate change, abortion rights, racial equity, and economic disparity are deeply interwoven.

Sounds like things proggies care about. We hate progressivism, right guys!

They argue that progress on any single issue is impossible without dismantling the underlying power structures, and thus demand that all allies adopt this synoptic worldview.

Again, a lot of different ideologies believe without dismantling the current power structures a new one can't exist.

Trump and his administration are mid process of dismantling what FDR and America built over the past century in order to replace it with their version of government.

So. What are Lumpers?

Splitters: These pragmatists prefer to take one issue at a time.

Pragmatists?

They are willing to accept allies for issue-specific legislative wins, like gun control or climate change -

You mean politicans who draft bipartisan legislation?

The type Trump recently tried to shoot down?

Or? What?

even if those allies do not share the broader, sweeping ideological goals of the lumpers.

Are you referring to Republicans before Republicans declared themselves "the party of No" in opposition to Obama winning the election.

Idiots: Those that can't tell the difference who repeat terms without understanding them.
#51 | POSTED BY ONETRUMPER

You really are an idiot.

#71 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-13 09:48 PM | Reply

"assign people strawmen and argue against it."

Anytime I see you do that I'm going to point it out.
Meantime, you go on pretending it bothers you.
#70 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Perfect example of what I meant.

Good Job, Beverly!

#72 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-13 09:50 PM | Reply

What's funny was when Eberly used the term Lumpers like he knew what it meant.

How sad.

Well done, OneTrumper.

#73 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-13 09:54 PM | Reply


You really are incredibly intelligent.
#71 | POSTED BY IDIOTSHACK

I like it, IDIOTSHACK because you are antipodal the song LoveShack......

#74 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-07-13 10:30 PM | Reply

Pragmatists?

Anyone with an IQ over 100.

#75 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-07-13 10:31 PM | Reply

So, libertarians? Social democrats? Make America Greaters? Corporate democrats? Evangelical Nationalists?

Since you seem so interested ... this is where I found the term ..

The Left Goes to War with Itself
A fierce conflict is brewing among progressives over how best to effect change.

On one side are people who believe in what can be thought of as a unified field theory of political and social change. Diverse issues, from climate change to abortion rights to racial equity, are seen as intimately interwoven, and progress on one priority will only be achieved with simultaneous progress on other fronts. On the other side are people who don't much buy this theory " and roll their eyes impatiently at theoretical arguments of any sort if they stand in the way of practical results on the specific issues they care most urgently about.
www.politico.com

I get it, you can't accept that you are the equivalent of an LLM, you've been trained on narratives, and don't know how think about what you regurgitate, hell just look at Corky.

#76 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-07-13 10:33 PM | Reply

So. What are Lumpers?

In imalumpertoo's view, a Lumper is the opposite of a Conservative.

#77 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-07-13 10:44 PM | Reply

LoveShack......
#74 | POSTED BY ONETRUMPER

Great song.

The rest of the stuff you posted doesn't matter.

Lumper is a meaningless term.

Even the definition you posted is unclear.

Might as well have stuck with Proggies.

At least that meant something.

#78 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-13 10:45 PM | Reply

a Lumper is the opposite of a Conservative.
#77 | POSTED BY REDIAL

If only he had the balls to admit it.

#79 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-13 10:46 PM | Reply

-The rest of the stuff you posted doesn't matter.

Because it's a perspective and a point being made backed up with a source.

But it's NOT an agreement.

So therefore it doesn't matter.

You're a fucking child demanding agreement.

Anything else you'll attack.

#80 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-13 10:52 PM | Reply

Because it's a term based on an opinion of some jackhole.

A term you were clueless about not too long ago.

A term I punched holes in and you can't refute it.

You actually don't care. But your ego won't let you drop it.

#81 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-13 11:00 PM | Reply

You're a fucking child demanding agreement.
#80 | POSTED BY EBERLY

You're an idiot who used a term some conservative author created to sell books.

What does lumper mean?

Don't scroll up.

What does it mean?

#82 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-13 11:01 PM | Reply

"Intellectually, I'm sympathetic to lumpers."

That's difficult when they are feral, hormonal and menstrual all at the same time.

But I'll work on that.

#83 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-13 11:02 PM | Reply

If only he had the balls to admit it.

He has:

Are you saying conservatives are less divisive than Lumpers?
Posted by oneironaut at 2026-07-05 06:02 PM

#84 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-07-13 11:02 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

When did I use the term?

#85 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-13 11:02 PM | Reply

-You actually don't care. But your ego won't let you drop it.

Well, if you can admit the term bothers you, then I won't consider using it.

Can your ego let you admit it?

#86 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-13 11:04 PM | Reply

It's the hardliners or Lumpers as Oneiron puts it that are frustrated with it.
#14 | POSTED BY EBERLY

#87 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-13 11:05 PM | Reply

you can admit the term bothers you,
#86 | POSTED BY EBERLY

I love the term.

Especially when people use it thinking it means something.

Like Reza. Or Beverly.

#88 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-13 11:06 PM | Reply

My word was hardliner. I was just acknowledging Oneirons term.

You know I've never used it.

I've never really knew what it meant exactly.

I still don't.

Would you like me to learn the term? You're begging me to do it.

#89 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-13 11:07 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Good is good to Evil, but Evil is evil to Good.
That is why Evil always wins.

#90 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2026-07-13 11:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

88

So no. Ego stands in the way again.

#91 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-13 11:09 PM | Reply

Keep spinning Eberly.

Maybe you won't look like an idiot to OneTrumper.

God knows you need someone new to Cheerlead.

#92 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-13 11:10 PM | Reply

90

Pretty dark.

#93 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-13 11:12 PM | Reply

-Maybe you won't look like an idiot to OneTrumper.

Maybe

#94 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-13 11:13 PM | Reply

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