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Trump wants a "little" war with Iran. But Iran gets a vote, too. With oil at $117, missile defenses depleted, and Iran threatening massive retaliation, Brett Erickson explains why this could spiral out of control.

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... At the U.S. Army's annual convention here this week, an exhibitor banner greeted attendees: "Welcome to the Unfair Fight."

At booths touting everything from laser weapons to attack drones, the idea that defense companies are selling is that, in any contest with the U.S. military, opponents will not only lose but also be sapped of their will to fight on.

In the current war against Iran, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has spoken of "crushing" the regime "in an overwhelming display of technical skill and military force. We will not relent until the enemy is totally and decisively defeated." He was echoing nearly verbatim President Donald Trump's promises of a quick victory from early March.

On Thursday, news came that the administration is considering using the "Mother of all bombs," or "MOAB" in Pentagon parlance. It's the most powerful non-nuclear bomb in the U.S. arsenal, and such a strike would allow the Republican administration to declare a "definitive victory," if not actually achieve it, in an unpopular conflict that has driven up gas prices ahead of next month's midterm elections.

But the kind of military rout that leaves the vanquished prostrate in salted fields doesn't happen anymore, and it is thinking along these lines, analysts add, that leads politicians to start wars which, like with Iran, drag on far longer than the immense resources of the U.S. armed forces might suggest.

If military superiority alone could end wars, then Afghanistan and Iraq would have been relatively easy American wins. Instead, many modern acts of aggression have devolved into long-running conflicts, notes Stephen Biddle, professor of international affairs at Columbia University and former strategic adviser to retired Gen. David Petraeus. General Petraeus commanded U.S. forces in Iraq and later served as CIA director.

The best use of military power in modern times is to convince adversaries that it is time to come to the negotiating table, argues Dr. Biddle, who recently co-authored a Foreign Affairs article about the "myth" of military victory.

"No war can end without an offer the enemy can accept, no matter how powerful one's armed forces, or how one-sided the fighting," he argued. ...


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-10-24 06:56 PM | Reply

@#1

~Wars are easy to start, difficult to end.~

Pres Trump's war of choice against Iran was predicted by Pres Trump to be only a couple three weeks in length, and then there would be regime change, no nukes, and so much more. Or so we were told ...

Where are we now?

Month eight, American casualties and injuries, and dozens of billions of dollars spent? And a formerly significant naval base in Bahrain destroyed?

Yet still no end in sight.

#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-10-24 07:04 PM | Reply

Especially if you have an incompetent drunk as "Secretary of Bar"

#3 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2026-10-24 09:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I expect this to be inherited by the next president.

#4 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2026-10-25 12:29 PM | Reply

"3 days to Kiev".

"Kick in the door and the whole rotten structure will come tumbling down"

"30 Days to Richmond".

"Two weeks to Regime Change".

Wars are Easy to Start.

Often almost Impossible to Stop.

Iran will push the US Military right out of the ME.

Lol.

#5 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2026-10-25 06:42 PM | Reply

I expect this to be inherited by the next president.

#4 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Of course. Conservatives are too cowardly to actually finish a war. Instead they continue to throw money and lives at it to pay for their cowardice. Only Democrats are brave enough and have the moral fortitude to end a war. The Iraq war was ended by Obama. Afghanistan was ended by Biden. And Conservatives continue to attack them for ending them (especially Biden), attacking them for what conservatives were too cowardly to do themselves.

#6 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2026-10-25 06:47 PM | Reply

#6 | Posted by gtbritishskull

Oh my LOL
Britain has never won a war without US doing it for them.
(no, enslaving and slaughtering primitives doesn't count)
Britain is the weakest yet meanest kid in the gang.
Take your GB skull and shove it in your poofta azz.

#7 | Posted by john_savage2 at 2026-10-25 07:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What Iran is teaching America

Iran taught the orange child rapist how to cower in a food cart.

#8 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2026-10-25 07:28 PM | Reply

#8

I bet you wish there would've been a food cart before Jeff Gannon shredded your sphincter and left you with a soft spot in the back of your head.

#9 | Posted by willowby at 2026-10-25 08:47 PM | Reply

>Afghanistan was ended by Biden.

Pffft! [spits coffee]
-Yeah I think we could have cut n run at any time, especially with leaving billions of dollars of intact eq and dozens of poor innocent doggies behind.

#10 | Posted by john_savage2 at 2026-10-25 09:18 PM | Reply

I remind people of a few irrefutable facts

America has lost the war against Iran.

Iran has achieved its strategic goals. That is the definition of winning.

America has not. that is the definition of losing.

There is nothing that America can do to defeat Iran militarily

Nothing.

I can't believe people have yet to understand that simple fact.

Land war is simply out of the question

Naval blockade means an extended war damaging the world's and America's economy-Iran wins

Iran will not surrender to a naval blockade

Air war? Wars are not won by the air.

I have said since March ALL Iran has to do is threaten traffic in the strait and they win. The cost of fuel skyrockets. The cost of fertilizer skyrockets and the downstream economic impacts last for a loooong time.

There is nothing we can do to prevent Iran from projecting power into the Strait, nothing.

thus we lose

And again, we started an illegal, immoral, unjust, unjustifiable war of aggression during negotiations with a cowardly sneak attack that murdered their leader and young children. We have committed numerous war crimes, we have threatened genocide, while enabling Israel's genocide, we have reneged on agreements, we have murdered their negotiators.

We have active criminally and immorally

We deserve to suffer

#11 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-25 09:18 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

And it occurs to me that that last point cannot be stated by our politicians, everyone MUST be YAY America! Yay! our military

When the simple fact is we have committed acts worse than Japan in WW2-they at least TRIED to get a Dec of War before the President and they limited their attack to military installations.

No, until we can recognize this fact and deal with it, nothing will change

#12 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-25 09:20 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Now, though-
Mil orders US out of gulf puppet states-
OMG the humanity! Cow words!

#13 | Posted by john_savage2 at 2026-10-25 09:21 PM | Reply

Pillowbitey would trade his tooth for a chance to suck Trump's filth from Putin's wang,

#14 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2026-10-25 09:28 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

Darkly, one understands that keeping the Iran war going profits American oil barons mightily...so....

#15 | Posted by Hughmass at 2026-10-26 06:20 AM | Reply

I expect this to be inherited by the next president.

That is Iran's position. They won't negotiate with an asshole that will rip up negotiated deals on a whim.

That is also the rest of the world's position when it comes to trade deals as Pedo47 gets bored and decides to rip up deals he negotiated already.

He is unstable and mentally unfit to lead.

The problem comes in when the next president steps up to settle the war. It will very likely require payments to Iran for rebuilding and reparations. Thats when the couch tumors at Fox will attack whatever is proposed if it is under a democrat.

Besides, I don't know how any other nation in the world could ever trust the United States again after one deranged lunatic directed by Putin single handedly destroyed every ounce of goodwill that the US ever had in less than two years.

The flaw that the founders failed to envision is an electorate stupid enough to elect a 34 time convicted felon who is a lying narcissitic, pedophile that is being extorted by the worst leaders on the earth to destroy the United States from the Oval Bordello.

#16 | Posted by Nixon at 2026-10-26 08:31 AM | Reply

There is nothing we can do to prevent Iran from projecting power into the Strait, nothing.

That is why every previous president, when approached by Nuttyahoo to start a war with Iran, told him to fuck off.

#17 | Posted by Nixon at 2026-10-26 08:33 AM | Reply

That is Iran's position. They won't negotiate with an asshole that will rip up negotiated deals on a whim.

#16 | Posted by Nixon at 2026-10-26 08:31 AM | Reply

Iranian leadership already negotiated with him and had an MOU. Hardline Iranians had a different opinion.

Now those hardliners are without paychecks and can't feed their families while the blockade continues.

#18 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2026-10-26 10:03 AM | Reply

More Oil Is Now Coming Out of the Persian Gulf Than Before the Iran War

#19 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2026-10-26 10:04 AM | Reply

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