Win Means End to Federal Cases Against Trump

... Donald Trump's ability to quickly move past his criminal cases as president-elect will get an early test in New York later this month.

In May, a New York state jury found Trump guilty of 34 felony counts for concealing a $130,000 payment to former adult-film actress Stormy Daniels to keep her quiet about an alleged sexual encounter. Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg alleged the payment was part of a scheme to influence the 2016 election by keeping tabloid stories from being published.

Trump's lawyers are expected to move to call off his sentencing in the so-called hush-money case, set for Nov. 26, and toss out the verdict now that he is president-elect. The 78-year-old faces as long as four years in prison for falsifying business records.

It will be up to Justice Juan Merchan to decide what happens next. And even before he addresses the sentencing, he faces a self-imposed Nov. 12 deadline to rule on Trump's outstanding request to throw out the case as a result of the US Supreme Court's landmark ruling on presidential immunity.

"Right now we're in uncharted territory," said Robert Tsigler, a criminal defense lawyer based in Manhattan who isn't involved in the case. "This has never happened before, so the exact path is very difficult to predict."

The New York matter is one of four prosecutions Trump had to contend with during his campaign to return to the White House, including two federal cases, all of which now face uncertain futures given the vast powers of the US presidency. ...

Trump will never face justice. Sad state of affairs these days.

Why should they be winding it down?

@#4 ... Why should they be winding it down? ...

From #1 ...

... the Justice Department believes he can no longer face prosecution in accordance with decades-old department legal opinions meant to shield presidents from criminal charges while in office. ...

Thank you Lamplighter that's stupid of them but I appreciate your telling me they're stupid opinion.

@#6

Yeah, I'm not yet convinced that it is stupid.

The DoJ needs steadfastly to remain apolitical. As it has done through these recent difficult times.

So, prosecuting a person that the US voters have elected for President may not be the best approach to that apolitical aim.

What I will be looking to watch is...

1) how SC Smith winds the cases down. Will he leave them open for a future, post-2029 revival? From what I've heard (and I will state once again, I am not a lawyer) that double jeopardy does not apply until a jury is seated.

2) will Pres-elect Trump use his appointed DoJ officials to permanently kill the cases?

Given the Pres Trump 1.0 behavior in the waning days of his presidency regarding the DoJ, I'd proffer (2) is more likely.

JFC people need to begin expanding their imagination.

Wind down the investigation?

Jack Smith will be running from warrants for the next however many years. He'll be lucky to avoid prison.

People simply do not comprehend the powers that ------- now has. The DoJ will be his personal law firm.

They are no longer required to be independent. ------- will put people in their that gladly, self-righteously will take up that standard.

@#8 ... Jack Smith will be running from warrants for the next however many years. He'll be lucky to avoid prison.

People simply do not comprehend the powers that ------- now has. The DoJ will be his personal law firm. ...

I do not disagree.

Which is why I laud the current DoJ for acting like an adult in the room.

Incredible to think that the party of supposed patriots just reelected a POTUS who stole state secrets and likely committed espionage and will now use the government to go after people for doing their jobs.

They're so deranged they don't even have a clue how anti-American they are.

They're so deranged they don't even have a clue how anti-American they are.

Their concept of "American" is a native born white man.

They're so deranged they don't even have a clue how anti-American they are.

Posted by jpw at 2024-11-06 08:04 PM | Reply

He tapped into their racist xenophobic homophobic and transphobic beliefs and they gave him their loyalty. That's why.

Don't forget misogynistic beliefs as well.

Don't forget misogynistic beliefs as well.

Close to the top, I would bet.

...DoJ for acting like an adult in the room.
#9 | Posted by LampLighter

Once again Good is being good to Evil.
That's why they always lose.

Trump's lawyers are expected to move to call off his sentencing in the so-called hush-money case, set for Nov. 26, and toss out the verdict now that he is president-elect. The 78-year-old faces as long as four years in prison for falsifying business records.

#2 | Posted by LampLighter

I will be curious to see on what grounds as it is a state case he was found guilty 34 felonies in. What kind of message does that send? He is not God Emperor and above the law. Even for the Federal cases they existed before he was elected.

But wouldn't that be irony, he gets out of state work release to attend his coronation, sorry I mean swearing in. I am sure Vance can fill in while he does his time.

So it was lawfare and political persecution after all. Weird.

These cases were never about the law. They were about making Trump lose. They failed.

These cases were never about the law. They were about making Trump lose. They failed.

#18 | Posted by BellRinger

GFY

Idiot

Their concept of "American" is a native born white man.

#11 | Posted by REDIAL

I don't even mean as far as people. I mean the essence of it and the freedoms it's supposed to entail.

For instance, we're going to see deportation of citizens in the anti-immigrant drag nets and Trumper "patriots" will just shrug their shoulders and think nothing of it, even though it will be a massive violation of constitutional rights.

So it was lawfare and political persecution after all. Weird.

#17 | Posted by visitor_

No, --------. Trump ran to avoid consequences. Stupid piles of ---- like you gave him that out even though his crimes undercut the very country you claim to love.

They're so deranged they don't even have a clue how anti-American they are.

#10 | Posted by jpw at 2024-11-06 08:04 PM | Reply

You're so delusional but don't despair, Kennedy will take the dyes out of your Trix and you'll soon be normal. Well except for the Flying J syndrome, which is hereditary.

No, --------. Trump ran to avoid consequences. Stupid piles of ---- like you gave him that out even though his crimes undercut the very country you claim to love.

Posted by jpw at 2024-11-07 10:44 AM | Reply

They don't care about the Constitution nor the country. It's all about team sport to them.

These cases were never about the law. They were about making Trump lose. They failed.

#18 | Posted by BellRinger

GFY

Idiot

Posted by jpw at 2024-11-07 10:41 AM | Reply

Seconded.

" These cases were never about the law. "

Then you should be able to point to at least one of them that was Lawfare. You've been asked dozens of times, and all you can point to is law.

Have you finally found one, or are you just continuing your pretense?

Again, if you can't definitively point to one, you have none.

These cases were never about the law. They were about making Trump lose. They failed.

#18 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-11-07 10:17 AM | Reply

You wouldn't be saying that if it were Obama that did the crimes. Face it you're a party over country kind of guy. That's your shtick.

These cases were never about the law. They were about making Trump lose. They failed.

They did fail - Trump again avoids his comeuppance.

However, he brought it on himself.

He was involved in up to, including, and after J6. That' on him - while it can be argued the legality - it certainly qualifies as impeachable. WHen he wasn't impeached, the GOP Senate leader said the law will have a say.

And he was the one who refused multiple times to return government documents he was not supposed to possess. His actual answers to why he did this were incriminating.

You're right it failed but wrong on everything else.....sorry.

This crap may have contributed to his victory.

You're so delusional but don't despair

Delusional is thinking RFK should be anywhere near public health policy.

We have an incoming administration that catered to Dunning-Kruger and will rapidly push the US into failed state status.

You're shooting the younger generation's future in the head and you don't even know it.

This crap may have contributed to his victory.

#28 | Posted by BellRinger

That people like you are too stupid to see that he deserves to be charged and voted to put him in office again despite his obvious flaws and criminal behavior?

Because that's it. That's what the destruction of our republic boils down to-you being a stupid pile of garbage.

#29
I fogot you're a doctor. LOL. Get back to the fryer, the fries are burning.

This crap may have contributed to his victory.

Certainly did. Go to any X/Twitter post that makes a reference to either legal case and read the comments.

Some people do not respect accountability. Many people don't understand the facts. Those people pulled the lever for Trump.

"This crap may have contributed to his victory."

People like you, lying about lawfare while you can't provide a single instance?

Good point.

Andrew Cuomo (paraphrased) The Bragg case would not have been brought against anyone not named Trump.

#34. The Bragg case was as blatant as it gets.

The only case that was legit was the documents case.

Democrats were soundly rebuked. Cope and introspect as to why.

Posted by BellRinger at 2024-11-07 11:46 AM | Reply

So was the Constitution and the rule of law. Of course that doesn't matter to you.

I can't wait for Trump to destroy the ACA, SS, and Medicare.

Hey, I'll be fine. Most of the rest of you idiots will be screwed.

Democrats were soundly rebuked. Cope and introspect as to why.

#37 | Posted by BellRinger

The why is simple.

Americans chose a rapist over a centrist.

Americans are stupid or evil.

there is no other significant consideration.

The inevitable ----------------- economic collapse (see 2020, 2008 etc,) will swing enough of stupid people back over to the left and the scum will be voted out.

If free and fair elections are to be had.

But don't worry jeff, you will still be a trash person.

You wouldn't be saying that if it were Obama that did the crimes. Face it you're a party over country kind of guy.

If Obama had done it - I can guarantee you he would not get a sniff of my vote.

Here's a sports analogy - voting for Trump is like rooting for the Cleveland Browns when DeShaun Watson becomes your QB. I would drop the Browns in a heartbeat until he was replaced. But guess what.......a ton of people do not. They just want their QB to be a QB.

PS - the sexual assualt comparisons are merely coincidental. I'm talking about just someone who is loathesome.

Democrats were soundly rebuked. Cope and introspect as to why.

They will and come back stronger. They have a ton of young talent waiting and will react accordingly.

Meanwhile, I'd expect Trump to eventually be Trump and pull the GOP down once again. Dems will be waiting to pounce.

Trump's second term is completely due to merrick garland being a coward, and biden for picking a coward to run the DOJ

Trump's second term is completely due to merrick garland

In retrospect, yes. Slow walked it instead of being aggressive.

These cases were never about the law. They were about making Trump lose. They failed.

#18 | Posted by BellRinger

Even you thought the documents case was serious. But here we are, you being a piece of ----.

This crap may have contributed to his victory.

#28 | Posted by BellRinger

You are right, but not in the way you think.

More than 50% of the voters ignored that a convicted felon, who stole nuclear secrets and tried to overthrow the government and voted for him.

That makes them stupid, or evil like you.

This is undeniable fact

Hey, I'll be fine. Most of the rest of you idiots will be screwed.

#39 | Posted by Alexandrite

If you thought 2008-2009 was bad at all cutting all those programs will make your head spin. Folks like Muskrat will be fine, if you notice though Shwitter is still losing money and it was a profitable corporation when he took it over. In the coming crisis, probably anyone with at least 10 million or so will be "okay". The impending economic implosion will leave you wondering what hit you.

one would think that a group of people who talk like they're the smartest people on the planet

would know that this was bogus from the outset.

that this guy being a special counsel was not legal ....satisfying ZERO terms and controls on a special counsel.

--one would think.

It's hilarious how these morons repeat the stupid s%#^ they hear from their garbage sources and can't understand why everyone else just shakes their heads and walks away.

Remember when I told you all this man would never see a day in prison? Good times.

Anyways, I'll be taking a nice little vacation from this place. Enjoy the next 4 years.

Oh and Zed and Legally ... We'll be seeing you two in the camps.

Anyways, I'll be taking a nice little vacation from this place.

Putin shutting down the troll farms already?

Naw, ole Putin is trying to make peace or didn't you hear? Also getting to be a part of a victory as massive as this was epic. Some might say the greatest comeback of political history. Thus it's time to bask in the sun and enjoy the fruits of proving every one of you wrong. That and just based off of everything I've read here the last few days and didn't comment on ... this place has a lot of toxicity flowing through it. And let's be real, you all only have your arrogance to blame for the political earthquake I saw coming and warned about from the moment you idiots decided to raid Mar-a-lago.

MAGA Baby.

The irony, BW, is that you don't see the toxicity flowing through your own post.

bluewaffles jokes about is being put in camps.

but we are toxic. lol

Gal ... my only response to your comment and what I'll leave on is this:

youtu.be

Take care.

Gal ... my only response to your comment and what I'll leave on is this:
youtu.be
Take care.
#55 | Posted by Bluewaffle

You, too, BW. See ya on the flip side.

How's that lawfare working out for ya?

An update...

Jack Smith asks for pause in Jan. 6 case after Trump's election win
www.newsnationnow.com

... Special counsel Jack Smith asked the federal judge in the Jan. 6 case against President-elect Donald Trump to pause any further proceedings while the Department of Justice considers its next steps after he won the 2024 election.

"As a result of the election held on Nov. 5, 2024, the defendant is expected to be certified as President-elect on Jan. 6, 2025, and inaugurated on Jan.20, 2025," a filing from Smith said. "The Government respectfully requests that the Court vacate the remaining deadlines in the pretrial schedule to afford the Government time to assess this unprecedented circumstance and determine the appropriate course going forward consistent with Department of Justice policy."

Smith said he will give an update to the court on the status of these deliberations by Dec. 2. ...

How's that lawfare working out for ya?

#57 | Posted by THEBULL

What should happen to someone who attempts a coup or sells classified documents?

Lets play PRETEND OBAMA DID IT.

MAGA Baby.

#52 | Posted by Bluewaffles

Imagine gloating about the victory of fascism and putin over america.

Anyways, I'll be taking a nice little vacation from this place. Enjoy the next 4 years.
#50 | Posted by Bluewaffles

Take care, BlueWaffles! Was nice chatting with you. Till next time!

I'll be taking a nice little vacation from this place.
#50 | POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES

Promises, promises ...

@#58

An update...

Judge grants Jack Smith's request to pause Trump Jan. 6 case
thehill.com

... A federal judge granted a request from special counsel Jack Smith on Friday to suspend deadlines in President-elect Trump's election interference case. ...