he outlined his Christian belief in a hierarchy of love. He said: "You love your family, and then you love your neighbour, and then you love your community, and then you love your fellow citizens in your own country, and then after that you can focus [on] the rest of the world."

What Jesus said about love
Love God: "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind"
Love others: "Love your neighbor as yourself"
Love each other: "Love each other as I have loved you"
Sacrifice: "Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one's life for one's friends"
True love: "If God so loved us, we also ought to love one another"

who are you going to believe Jesus or Vance?

Even as an atheist I recognize the blasphemy of Vance's position.

Christ you're an inchoate turd

Where do I call for loving everyone equally?

I reject the bronze age myths of people so ignorant that they shared brushes to scrub their asses with after defecating.

I am throwing his mythological beliefs back in his face showing him to be the hypocrite he so obviously is.

I have zero responsibility to love people who choose to act reprehensibly.

I am free to hate those who act hateful.

It is very liberating by the way.

---- you ----, take it up with jesus, Vance is ignoring his plain language teachings you ignorant ----

You don't know squat about Catholicism. You cherry pick passages, take them as literally as possible to suit your narrative and ignore the rest. If the Bible was a literal document there would be no need for the Catholic Church.

#19 | Posted by BellRinger

If you don't understand the core teachings of the catholic church that is on you dumbass.

The one consistent throughline of the jesus myth is loving others, turning the cheek, love your enemies, love your neighbors, helping the outcasts, the poor, the sick. There was no hierarchy in that love, that is, simply put, the exact opposite of what jesus supposedly preached.

But, you DO touch on the one joke of religion. You get that one thing right, that it is not literal (to some that isn't even true), so CONVENIENTLY it is open to the myriad selfish and self serving interpretations of -------- like you and vance.

But, again, to think that jesus said love this person, before this person before that person and if you ever get around to it the person over there, well you didn't pay attention to the nuns.

You've been informed and educated. Be a better person.

Truth Hurts

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You're incapable of not lying.

Where did I say love they neighbor more than anyone.

You are a desperate turd trying to defend the indefensible. You simply cannot admit a mistake.

That makes you quite less than a man, but everyone already knows that.

If you don't think jesus was all about love, you are an ignorant ----.

He said love god
He said love your neighbor
he said the greatest love was to lay down your life for a friend (or another based on "interpretations")
He said to love your enemy

Only a conservative would rank love

Btw
I am curious

How does this work in practice: "You love your family, and then you love your neighbour, and then you love your community, and then you love your fellow citizens in your own country, and then after that you can focus [on] the rest of the world."

Like does one love your family until they are dead, then you love your neighbor until he is dead, then you love your community etc? How does that ranking work? Is it money? It's money isn't it? That's how a conservative thinks about love as the investment of money.

Face it ---- head your soul is gunk.

You are not a good person.

You've been informed and educated. Be a better person.

Truth Hurts

How about you, Twoothy? Do you love your daughter more than the guy who lives next door?

We all know the answer so can we dispense with this hypocrisy crap, especially since you all despise Christianity?

#31 | Posted by BellRinger

It truly is breath taking how much you lie.

In this very thread I wrote:

Christ you're an inchoate turd

Where do I call for loving everyone equally?

I reject the bronze age myths of people so ignorant that they shared brushes to scrub their asses with after defecating.

I am throwing his mythological beliefs back in his face showing him to be the hypocrite he so obviously is.

I have zero responsibility to love people who choose to act reprehensibly.

I am free to hate those who act hateful.

It is very liberating by the way.

#9 | Posted by truthhurts

I am not bound by the bronze age myths.

You are once again proven to be an ignorant deceitful lying piece of ----. The proof could not be clearer.

But you will deny and/or disappear to return later to regurgitate the same lies.

You see Jeff, I have no problem hating people who act hateful.

I have no problem with NOT loving the likes of ----ler and YOU.

Because you have shown yourselves irredeemable.

But --------, I do believe in redemption. That every single human being has worth and is capable of change

Even you

But until you demonstrate change, REAL change. You deserve nothing but scorn for how you act.

Just to educate you a tad, shame can encourage change in a person. And scorn can induce shame.

But then there are people like you that appear to have no shame and that tack is less effective.

But maybe, just possibly, there is a nugget of conscience in your sick head and possibly, just maybe in can be encouraged to grow.

I am not hopeful, but the signs are there, retroactive distaste for W, being embarrassed to admit you support ----ler.

But, hey, ------- turd, I am an optimist

But until you prove otherwise

You are not a good person.

You've been informed and educated. Be a better person.

Truth Hurts

Of your daughter were to get cancer and die, I'd be mortified and would feel terrible for you and my instinct would be to offer sincere condolences. I wouldn't though and I'll explain why ... .

Of my wife were to get cancer and die you'd laugh uproariously because you want to taste the tears of my grief.

So I wouldn't offer you condolences because you'd somehow construe it the same way -me being ------------ over your grief.

Marinate on that and enjoy the rest of the weekend.

#27 | Posted by BellRinger

I want to circle back to this. Jeff has criticized me for the kids with cancer argument.

But what he doesn't see, because he is amoral ----, is that his whole argument is an example of his immorality.

Not ONCE have you seen this waste of space arguing against the people that actually took treatment and medicines away from children suffering from cancer. He has NEVER criticized them. Not once.

He can only find it in his heart to condemn me for pointing that fact out. That the people he support have stripped care from children with cancer

My anger is at the people causing that harm and the voters electing them. Jeff is mad at me for pointing it out.

Jeff is NOT a good person.

You've been informed and educated. Be a better person.

Truth Hurts

Yeah, but here's the thing jeff, I don't have to lie to assign you a position. I have NEVER advocated for or supported open borders. Biden did not have open border policies. I can even point to the deal that ------- tanked to add more security to the border.

But I don't have to lie about magat scum removing medicines and treatment for kids with cancer. I simply don't

You see, the things is jeff, what you view as histrionics and arrogance is actually you arguing with a person with integrity.

I don't post lies, like you do.

I admit mistakes when I make the, unlike you

I do not post on issues I do not know or understand, unlike you.

When I post facts I can back them up, unlike you.

When I draw conclusions I support them with facts, unlike you.

You are a deceitful person deep in your soul, which corrupts your cognitive thought processes. You cannot conceive of someone who uses facts to make arguments

And when pointed out your errors, deceit or outright lies, you either double down or run like a bitch.

I am not arrogant I am confident.

You are arrogant because you lie and act like no one can see through your --------.

Again

You are not a good person jeff.

You REALLY need to examine your life. I don't know what damage happened to you in your life, but you really are a disgusting human being.

You've been informed and educated. Be a better person.

Truth Hurts

Piss off. He makes zero room for the concept of principled disagreement, engages in nonstop histrionics and treats his opinions as absolute fact. He makes JPW appear humble by comparison.

#50 | Posted by BellRinger

Oh, btw, I must admit you do come up with some hilarious posts once in a while.

YOU, of all people, claiming principled disagreement.

I cannot, that is simply some next level humor right there, bravo.

BTW not that you will understand or admit, I DO have plenty of room for principled disagreement.

Example, I am an avid follower of the Bulwark podcast, which is made up of former Republicans. Me being an arch liberal have numerous issues with many of their positions, but I can respect them. I can respect their positions for example on why Harris lost and still disgree strongly with them.

But, you see, you are fascist magat scum. I hold you in utter contempt. I have zero respect for you and I do not believe a single solitary thing you write. NOTHING whatsoever. So, when you say I have not room for principled disagreement, that is because YOU have no principles for me to disagree with. that is a fact, until YOU prove otherwise.

I freely admit I can be an -------. I own that. But, it is my belief that people respect me. That is FAR more important to me then whether magat scum like me or think I am reasonable or debate in principled disagreement. Because you are fascist scum. I will fight fascist scum till my last breath.

I wonder why you don't.

You've been informed and educated. Be a better person.

Truth Hurts

And let me give you a quick example

Just a couple of days ago you were arguing, essentially, that undocumented immigrants do not have rights because their deportation is not a criminal matter.

I posted numerous facts refuting that and detailing how your position is simply and obviously false. I posted supreme court cases, the constitution and the legal and logical basis for those rights.

You could not admit you were wrong. Hey, I could even see your original position as a hastily thought out comment.

But you are incapable of being a man and admitting a mistake.

Cause that is who you are.

So, you flailed around trying to insult me and obfuscating the point.

But you made a mistake and were called out on it.

Your response was to lie and refuse to admit your mistake

And, I predict, even today you won't be able to admit that mistake, certainly not without conditions.

But, again that is who you are

You are not a good person.

You've been informed and educated. Be a better person.

Truth Hurts