Tuesday, March 25, 2025

Trump Admin Accidentally Texted Journalist It's War Plans

The world found out shortly before 2 p.m. eastern time on March 15 that the United States was bombing Houthi targets across Yemen. I, however, knew two hours before ...

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Hegseth is literally denying a story that the NSC has already confirmed and in which receipts were printed verbatim. Remember this the next time he impugns another journalist.

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-- Nicholas Thompson (@nxthompson.bsky.social) March 24, 2025 at 9:12 PM

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They had what had to be a TS/SCI Special Access level conversation on Signal with some of the highest positioned members of our government with the editor of the The Atlantic included on the thread AND NOBODY KNEW!

People have been prosecuted for lesser mistakes.

#1 | Posted by qcp at 2025-03-24 01:22 PM

This is why you always hire a Secretary of Defense who swears he'll stop drinking when he gets the Secretary of Defense job.

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-24 01:28 PM

Given this news, it's worthwhile to doubt that Trump's strikes against the Houthi have been as effective as he has bragged.

Trump is going to lose a war for us. I wonder how much money he will make from that?

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2025-03-24 01:40 PM

@#2 ... This is why you always hire a Secretary of Defense who swears he'll stop drinking when he gets the Secretary of Defense job. ...

Hire incompetent people, and incompetence happens.

#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-24 01:44 PM

Of course the demented orange pedo made an incompetent rapist lush his secretary of defense,

#5 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-03-24 01:49 PM

This is an immediate court-martial in any other country in the world. Our Defense Department is being run by KAOS. Where the hell is Maxwell Smart to save us?

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMDQ5MWY1MzItNzBlMS00ZTBhLWExZTgtZGE3NTljZTFiYmZjXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyODcwODUzOTM@._V1_.jpg

#6 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-03-24 01:57 PM

Top secret plans.
TEXTED to The Atlantic's Editor-in-Chief!
Holy shht!

#7 | Posted by YAV at 2025-03-24 03:15 PM

Yea, but, "Her Emails!!!!!!!!!"

#8 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-03-24 03:17 PM

#8: You took the words right off my keyboard.

#9 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-03-24 03:40 PM

Hegseth was texting this stuff because he wants to feel important. It's also why he drinks and beats women.

#10 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-03-24 03:41 PM

I wouldn't buy a used car from Hegseth. Women shouldn't leave drinks unattended near him either.

He is slimier than Scaramucci, which is a thing that did not seem possible.

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-24 03:44 PM

$#!+ like this is why we're fcnked

#12 | Posted by hamburglar at 2025-03-24 03:50 PM

Another wrinkle on this

Signal is where one goes to have conversations that cannot be recoverable.

this is how our government is being run.

No record of any of the decision making process.

This signal conference is certainly an exemplar of how ALL communications is being handled in this administration.

Thanks magat scum

#13 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-03-24 04:08 PM

Here is their website: signal.org

#14 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-03-24 04:33 PM

Trump says he knows nothing of Atlantic journalist swept up in war plan text chain
thehill.com

... Trump was asked about the report during an event with Louisiana officials at the White House shortly after it surfaced. The president maintained he was no fan of the publication and said he had no knowledge of the editor being accidentally included in the chain.

"I don't know anything about it. I'm not a big fan of The Atlantic; to me it's a magazine that is going out of business," Trump said. "I know nothing about it. You're saying that they had what?"

A reporter responded that Trump officials were using Signal to coordinate on sensitive material and when Trump questioned "having to do with what?" the reporter said, "the Houthis." Trump replied, "You mean the attack on the Houthis?"

"Well, it couldn't have been very effective, because the attack was very effective, I can tell you that. I don't know anything about it. You're telling me about it for the first time," Trump added. ...


#15 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-24 04:53 PM

The President doesn't know what he's doing

#16 | Posted by hamburglar at 2025-03-24 04:57 PM

Gaslighter, could you kindly copy and paste less to save disk space? Thank you.

#17 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2025-03-24 05:03 PM

The President doesn't know what he's doing

Posted by hamburglar at 2025-03-24 04:57 PM | Reply

He wasn't hired for his competence. He was hired because he validated their hatred and bigotry. That's it.

#18 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-03-24 05:07 PM

"He was hired because he validated their hatred and bigotry. That's it."

Amen to that!

#19 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-03-24 05:10 PM

Watch Trump's reaction to this news:

www.youtube.com

4 secs

#20 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-24 05:17 PM

Hmm...Let me guess..."I don't know anything about it." Seeing how he habitually uses that rhetorical strategy to duck sticky questions that might make him look either stupid and/or complicit, without first checking out the sound bite, was I close? Hot damn...verbatim!

#21 | Posted by dutch46 at 2025-03-24 05:55 PM

Trump - Sgt. Schultz I know nothing Meme Generator

imgflip.com

#22 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-24 06:02 PM

This type of conversation should have been on a secure government network, not a public semi-secure network.

For example, the government runs ...

SIPRNet
en.wikipedia.org

... The Secret Internet Protocol Router Network (SIPRNet) is "a system of interconnected computer networks used by the U.S. Department of Defense and the U.S. Department of State to transmit classified information (up to and including information classified SECRET) by packet switching over the 'completely secure' environment".[1] It also provides services such as hypertext document access and electronic mail. As such, SIPRNet is the DoD's classified version of the civilian Internet.

SIPRNet is the secret component of the Defense Information Systems Network.[2] Other components handle communications with other security needs, such as the NIPRNet, which is used for nonsecure communications, and the Joint Worldwide Intelligence Communications System (JWICS), which is used for Top Secret communications. ...


Also, conversations on SIPRNet are archived, according to law about government conversations. From what I understand, this conversation on Signal was tagged to self-delete in a couple of weeks.

The latter was a concern in the "... but her emails..." case.


#23 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-24 06:07 PM

Who was in that unsecured* text group?
JD Vance.
Michael Waltz
Pete Hegseth
Marco Rubio
Tulsi Gabbard
John Ratcliffe
Susie Wiles
Steve Witkoff
Stephen Miller (whew the smell of sulfur just filled my office when I typed that!)
and of course...
Jeffrey Goldberg of The Atlantic.

A lot of those on the call know that Signal is not approved or secured for classified discussions. This was utterly irresponsible. This is the level of shhtheaps we have at these levels of government? Seriously - this massively incompetent, flippant, negligent?

#24 | Posted by YAV at 2025-03-24 07:04 PM

#17

---- off you fat idiot.

#25 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-03-24 07:27 PM

#23 SIPRnet is too low of a classification level for something like this. It should have taken place in a SCIF. Or over government issued encrypted phones.

#26 | Posted by qcp at 2025-03-24 07:33 PM

@#24 ... This was utterly irresponsible. ...

At this point, my view is that the phrase "This was utterly irresponsible" is not enough to describe what occurred, and the incompetence of those involved.

OK, let me take a step back ...

There's this thing called the "Five Eyes."

A super close intelligence alliance among our closest friends on this planet.

Five Eyes
en.wikipedia.org

... The Five Eyes (FVEY) is an Anglosphere intelligence alliance comprising Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States.[1] These countries are party to the multilateral UKUSA Agreement, a treaty for joint cooperation in signals intelligence.[2][3][4] Informally, "Five Eyes" can refer to the group of intelligence agencies of these countries. The term "Five Eyes" originated as shorthand for a "AUS/CAN/NZ/UK/US Eyes Only" (AUSCANNZUKUS) releasability caveat.[5]

The origins of the FVEY can be traced to informal, secret meetings during World War II between British and American code-breakers that took place before the US formally entered the war.[6] The alliance was formalized in the post-war era by the UKUSA Agreement in 1946. As the Cold War deepened, the intelligence sharing arrangement was formalised under the ECHELON surveillance system in the 1960s.[7] This system was developed by the FVEY to monitor the communications of the Soviet Union and Eastern Bloc; it is now used to monitor communications worldwide.[8][9] The FVEY expanded its surveillance capabilities during the course of the "war on terror", with much emphasis placed on monitoring the Internet. The alliance has grown into a robust global surveillance mechanism, adapting to new domains such as international terrorism, cyberattacks, and contemporary regional conflicts. ...


OK, after reading that, and taking a step back ...

After what seemed to have been leaked in this Signal (I'll be kind) faux pas, what will those other Nations of Five Eyes now think about sharing intelligence with the US?


#27 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-24 08:48 PM

@#26 ... SIPRnet is too low of a classification level for something like this. It should have taken place in a SCIF. Or over government issued encrypted phones. ...

Good point.

thx.


#28 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-24 08:50 PM

This took place on Signal, an encyrpted chat app.
Official government business is taking place outside of official US Government servers.
This is the crime Hillary Clinton was alledged to have committed.

Republicans don't care, of course.

#29 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-24 08:55 PM

Hegseth's Own Words Come Back to Haunt Him After Texting War Plans

In 2016, while working for Fox News, Hegseth repeatedly criticized then-presidential candidate Hillary Clinton for storing classified information on a private email server at her home. In one instance, Hegseth pointedly asked:

"How damaging is it to your ability to recruit or build allies with others when they are worried that our leaders may be exposing them because of their gross negligence or their recklessness in handling information?"

he goes on and on burying himself

newrepublic.com

#30 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-24 10:08 PM

More proof that people who despise the federal government aren't good at running it.

#31 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-24 10:12 PM

If they haven't done so already, Five Eyes would be smart to become Four Eyes to protect their national security interests.

#32 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-24 10:23 PM

@#31 ... More proof that people who despise the federal government aren't good at running it. ...

I could not have said that better myself.

Thank-you.

#33 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-24 10:25 PM

These people are ------- idiots.

#34 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-03-24 10:26 PM

@#32 ... f they haven't done so already, Five Eyes would be smart to become Four Eyes to protect their national security interests. ...

Given what may have been "sources" of intelligence mentioned in this chatroom session, such an outcome would not be a surprise to me.

I mean, apparently revealing sources of intelligence?


#35 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-24 10:27 PM

MAGAs apparently are still waiting for their talking points.

Maybe they can go with Hogsbreath claiming Goldberg is not to be trusted, but without actually denying the colossally negligent security breach, of which he was a part, that allowed a journalist to be on a group chat with officials at the highest level of national security.

#36 | Posted by cbob at 2025-03-24 10:30 PM


@#32

Another view ...

Top Trump officials text classified Yemen airstrike plans to journo in Signal SNAFU
www.theregister.com

... Military analyst and retired Australian Army Major General Mick Ryan has described the use of the secure chat app in this matter as "appalling."

"By using Signal for such a sensitive issue, the participants demonstrate a cavalier attitude to operational security," he wrote Tuesday, Australian time. "For a Secretary of Defense who allegedly values a war-fighting ethos, this shortfall in security is appalling. In normal times, this would see people sacked. I don't expect that in this case though because these are not normal times."

"Why aren't they using more secure communications that are assured by the NSA or another government communications agency?" he added. The Register understands chat tools used by those agencies include features that prevent, say, journalists from participating in group chats.

Another question worth asking is why the group's members used Signal, and why they set at least some of the messages to auto-delete, which may be a violation of federal records-keeping laws.

Using Signal is also extraordinary given that a constant refrain of President Trump's 2015 presidential election campaign was the need to "lock up" Hillary Clinton for using a private server for her emails.

As Ryan pointed out: "By communicating on devices which were transmitting information about a future operation in real time to a journalist, the conversation may also have been compromised by other foreign interested parties. As a result, might the entire operation to strike the Houthis have been compromised, and the lives of military personnel put at risk?" ...


#37 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-24 10:32 PM

@#37 ... "For a Secretary of Defense who allegedly values a war-fighting ethos, this shortfall in security is appalling. In normal times, this would see people sacked. ...

Yeah, but Sec Hegseth was chosen for his obsequious adulation of Pres Trump, and not for his ability to run the Defense Department.

So, what does he know about National Security?


#38 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-24 10:34 PM

@#36 ... MAGAs apparently are still waiting for their talking points. ...

So, I'm not the only one who has noticed that?

#39 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-24 10:35 PM

@#36 ... but without actually denying the colossally negligent security breach ...

Yeah, there's a problem with that ...

www.cbsnews.com

... The National Security Council stated that the messages seem to be "authentic" in a statement to CBS News after the story was published.

"At this time, the message thread that was reported appears to be authentic, and we are reviewing how an inadvertent number was added to the chain," a National Security Council spokesman said.

"The thread is a demonstration of the deep and thoughtful policy coordination between senior officials. The ongoing success of the Houthi operation demonstrates that there were no threats to our service members or our national security." ...



#40 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-24 10:41 PM

@#40 ... "The thread is a demonstration of the deep and thoughtful policy coordination between senior officials ...

Deep and thoughtful?

Exposing state secrets on an uncertified public chatroom facility?

People should be fired over this.


#41 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-24 10:43 PM

Angry
@angrystaffer.bsky.social

Goldberg said the level of detail in the targeting package that he received via Signal was down to the *names of individuals* to be killed.

That's the good stuff that includes all kinds of sources and methods and never should have been outside a SCIF.

I'd be in prison if I ------ up that bad.

#42 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-24 11:13 PM

And 2 days from now this story will be forgotten

#43 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-03-24 11:15 PM

Acyn
@acyn.bsky.social
CNN put together a collection of clips of various Trump officials who were on the signal chat criticizing Hillary Clinton's email server

bsky.app

#44 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-24 11:18 PM

Thought I would share this comment from another site:

Sounds like the start of a bad joke : A convict , a billionaire and a drunk walked into a meeting......

#45 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2025-03-25 05:51 AM

I would not bet on the secrecy of anything shared with maga.

#46 | Posted by fresno500 at 2025-03-25 06:17 AM

"You're talking about a deceitful and highly discredited so-called journalist who's made a profession of peddling hoaxes," an uncharacteristically angry Hegseth said about Goldberg, a well-regarded Washington reporter and editor. "This is a guy who peddles in garbage."

Then guess what happened?

You guessed it! Goldberg was telling the truth, and the chat was filled with people that ranted "Hillary!" and then proceeded to do far worse. Just another day in the GOP.

Side note: It turns out Goldberg was the most responsible person in that group chat.

#47 | Posted by YAV at 2025-03-25 07:23 AM

#44 - That's solid, Gal!
Damn!

#48 | Posted by YAV at 2025-03-25 07:24 AM

If I was an "ally" of America (I mean one of the old ones, not Russia, N Korea, China, Hungary, or any other sh-thole nation we now align ourselves with) I would NOT give the US any information that's classified, contains ANY method/source information. Not without knowing that it will likely be leaked or directly given to "Russia, N Korea, China, Hungary, or any other sh-thole nation we now align ourselves."

#49 | Posted by YAV at 2025-03-25 08:40 AM

My concern now is what fresh, unacceptable outrage will TrumpCo pull to take America's attention off this? I mean, it will have to be a real humdinger, eh? Say...re-taking the Panama Canal by force? Boots on the ground in Greenland? Buckle up...

#50 | Posted by dutch46 at 2025-03-25 12:38 PM

So why did this scumbag not warn everybody?

A journalist could have saved lives, and just sat on the story.

#51 | Posted by DarkVader at 2025-03-25 12:40 PM

" why did this scumbag not warn everybody?"

Um, he did.

And "scumbag" would only apply if he leaked any of the classified information moronically put on Signal.

Telling, though: you don't blame the perpetrator, you blame the messenger.

#52 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-03-25 12:44 PM

So why did this scumbag not warn everybody?

The "scumbag" is the criminally negligent idiot who pressed send on a classified document without verification of the recipients.

Lock em up!

#53 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-25 12:56 PM

It was mentioned in the Senate hearing today that one of the participants was actually in Russia while this discussion was happening.

#54 | Posted by qcp at 2025-03-25 02:15 PM

3 hours ago

"Heated exchange between Sen. Ossoff (D-GA) and CIA Director Ratcliffe"

www.youtube.com

#55 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-25 03:59 PM

Sen. Mark Kelly questions security officials about Signal group chat

www.youtube.com

Watching Trump's Intel appointees lie and squirm is golden.

They know that the Sens will eventually get the full Transcript, and that their answers will be compared to that.

#56 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-25 04:25 PM

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