Whenever Europeans write about financial matters, I have to laugh. The French GDP per capita is basically unchanged from the 'great recession' and now it is losing its last trading partner for their luxury brands as China is effectively bankrupt. If they keep up the anti-American rhetoric, US tourism will go away and the country will be left with nothing except run away crime and mass construction of mosques.

"He retreated, big time.
#6 | Posted by LampLighter"

You only think that if you are a total -------.

For his entire life, Trump does the following:

1.) take a very extreme position offering a 'worst case scenario'
2.) offer a path to negotiate something less extreme
3.) finalize a deal on better terms than he had previously

It is literally rinse and repeat but you ------- liberals still can't seem to understand it.

"#5 whenever you write anything I have to laugh
#10 | Posted by jpw"

You laugh due to ignorant bliss - so is the fate of a low-skilled beaker washer. You still want to say that covid could not have come from a lab leak? Even the FBI says it did because unskilled beaker washers like yourself are the perfect mix of ignorance and hubris.

"#11 | Posted by snoofy"

You don't have 2 nickels to rub together ------- - why pretend you have investment accounts? Your net worth fluctuates by 50% depending on how much gas you have in your ---------- of a car.

"What would the replacement be for the reserve currency? The Euro?
#15 | Posted by REDIAL"

France GDP per capita: $45,091
German GDP per capita: $55,837

Alabama GDP per capita: $56,684

Yeah, the Euro is totally going to displace the USD as the reserve currency.

"Per capita GDP comparisons don't mean much, if anything.
#20 | Posted by REDIAL"

Sounds like something a ------- canuck would say given they have had not GDP per capita growth in a decade under their blackface, closeted, fuhrer. Leave economics to Americans - it is beyond the comprehension of Europeans and their inbred Canadian cousins.

"Ireland"

Due to multinational companies using it as a tax haven for reporting purposes. What is their median household disposable income? It is about $55,000. It is $80,610 for the US. The Irish are poor potato eaters now just like they have been for the last 400 years - it is just now that they are poor potato eaters with some migrant diversity so their food is not so terrible.

"Norway"

Norway's median household disposable income adjusted for PPP is $42,000 - so, about half of that of the median US household.

"So does Singapore."

Singapore's median household disposable income is $52,600. So, that would make strike 3.

"And Luxembourg."

Luxembourg's median household disposable income is $49,748

#24 | Posted by REDIAL a"

At this point, I will just stop as it is tiresome constantly proving that Snow-Mexicans don't anything about economics. You seem to love countries that set themselves up as international tax havens and/or have huge income disparities where a small few elites rule over a nation of poor people. Maybe that is why you -------- love the dystopian system in California.

"Oh, and Alabama? 6th highest poverty rate in the US and the largest employer (by far) is the US Army.
#25 | Posted by REDIAL"

You are making my point - the biggest -------- states in the US are still better off economically than the Western European countries you want to emulate. No wonder the blackface wearing, closeted, fuhrer was able to run your -------- country for so many years - Snow Mexicans are just plain stupid.

"#28 | Posted by LampLighter"

Got a link?

"I guess that resolves that.
#31 | Posted by REDIAL"

LOL. You really cracked the case Columbo.

"Now subtract health insurance from the American number. It's currently missing in the so-called comparison".
doesn't...wouldn't you say?"
#33 | Posted by Danforth

Try again --------.

"In the U.S., disposable income calculation includes health insurance premiums as a deduction, but only if they are deducted from your paycheck as part of your employment benefits. This is because health insurance premiums are considered a mandatory deduction, similar to taxes, when they are taken directly from your gross income before you receive your paycheck."

"#35 | Posted by Effeteposer"

Another commie that wants to be kicked around? That is fine by me. Still waiting for anything you leftwing -------- predict to come true. Been waiting a long time.

"#37 | Posted by reinheitsgebot"

I really hope Kash finally does the pedophile sweep so trash like Rein can spend the rest of their miserable lives in jail.

"In the U.S., disposable income calculation includes health insurance premiums as a deduction, but only if they are deducted from your paycheck as part of your employment benefits"

Thanks for proving me right. Double thanks for being too stupid to know you proved me right.

#40 | Posted by Danforth"

You need to re-read -------- - it is not saying what you think it says. A majority of health insurance premiums are deducted from your paycheck for employer provided health care AND/OR are paid directly by the employer - less than 10% of people direct pay and aren't covered through employer plans, MEDICARE, MEDICAID or TRICARE. As such, the amount you pay is already captured in the disposable income calculation as your net pay was reduced, or in the case of the employer paid benefit - does not decrease your disposable income.

The only thing not captured is the 'out of pocket expenses' - and we can look at your butt-buddy Snoofy for some numbers to put to that.

Per snoofy "That's a tiny fraction of the total cost. I pay about $50 every two weeks for health insurance, $1300 a year. The company pays the other $8200."

Now, I am going to assume snoofy means HE pays after receiving his check (if it is withheld from his check, it is already captured in the calculation). In the case he is actually paying, the net deduction from his disposable income would be $1,300/year - a far ------- cry from the $25,000 difference you are trying to spin for the US being poor like Europe.

Again, you are the perfect mix of ignorance and hubris - keep trying through, you might actually win an argument some day.

"If you don't understand the analysis is comparing TWO DIFFERENT situations, the problem is in your mirror."

It is comparing exactly what I said it was. You just can't seem to read.

"For some it is, for some it isn't. THAT MAKES THEM DIFFERENT than the comparative number."

Yeah, for the 10% that self pay --------. That is not going to be anywhere near enough to explain a difference between $55,000 and $80,000 ON AVERAGE. Admit you lost and you are just desperate to claim some kind of moral victory.

"Again, you don't get to claim victory if you're too stupid to know you lost."

You need to take that advice to heart -------.

"For example: tell us again how tariffs aren't taxes.
#46 | Posted by Danforth"

I already kicked your ass on that topic -------- - you want to recap it again?

Here you go --------:
"That's because US consumers will be the ones paying the tariffs. Which are taxes.
#53 | Posted by Danforth"

The article directly refutes you --------. Here is the reality - same as I told you before - the manufacturers and middlemen will eat a vast majority of the tariffs and the rest of the orders will be cancelled because they are not competitively priced. China already has 80% order cancellation rates and goods being returned that already hit US ports.

Posted by ScottS

"Guess you missed that whole Iraq WMD debacle Liberals predicted exactly how that would turn out.
#48 | Posted by donnerboy"

That war your ------- liberal leaders voted for before they voted against it? Yeah, not a real great example - especially given how the Democrats are now the party of forever war.

"#51 | Posted by reinheitsgebot"

From your own link -------:
"It doesn't cover the full cost"not even close"

- and -

"Amazon CEO Andy Jassy recently told CNBC that he thinks manufacturers will start to "pass that cost" on to customers rather than trying to absorb it."

My guess is the girl in the article selling Chinese ------ will go out of business. Now, I know you are all broken up about not being able to buy Chinese manufactured ------ modeled on 12 year old boys - but, this is business the US does not need. She will eat the cost and most likely, her sales go to zero.

"Hmmm...extra money the government collects?!? THAT'S A TAX.
A rose, by any other name....
#53 | Posted by Danforth"

Paid by Chinese manufacturers and middle men - not US consumers. Well, I guess in the case of the woman selling Chinese manufactured ------, she may have an incel liberal or 2 that will pay it before she goes out of business.

"But long term?!? NFW."

Long-term, the jobs come back and non-Chinese manufacturers fill the gap. 80% order cancellation rates for Chinese orders for the US -------.

"I guess umfuqs gotta dumfuq.
#55 | Posted by Danforth"

I told you before, I don't know your ------ coded language. So, I guess that last part was meant for Rein.

"Once again, in the middle of a discussion, Scatberg brings up gay sex.
#58 | Posted by Danforth"

The article says she owns 'a sexual wellness company' - what do you think she sells? Given that Rein found the link and was outraged, I can only assume the ------ are kid sized or he wouldn't give 2 -----.

"#60 | Posted by reinheitsgebot"

"In a post shared to the r/Anticonsumption subreddit, u/ProperMod said that their wife's friend purchased children's summer clothing from the clothing company Fabletics."

So, seems you first shopped for Chinese manufactured ------ in kid sizes and now you are shopping for children's clothes. Yeah, that is not creepy at all....

"Middle men, meaning American importers."

Yep, and they are - as was proven on the original article.

"Your theory is they will eat the majority of the cost increases, and not pass them on to the consumer."

Yep - because that is what is happening.

"It's where your brain immediately goes, post after post.
#69 | Posted by Danforth"

When it comes to Rein? Yes - I 100% believe Rein is a pedophile. I have no doubt in my mind of that fact.

"If you think it will KEEP happening, while businesses lose profits
#72 | Posted by Danforth"

Middle men and manufacturers will eat the costs where the can - in the case they can't, sales go to zero. Here is another article for you on this exact scenario AGAIN -------:

"Long-term, the jobs don't come back as non-American manufacturers fill the gap.
#74 | Posted by snoofy"

That is what ------- Obama said about US manufacturing jobs. I know you remember it - the 'you need a magic wand to bring back manufacturing jobs' -------- Obama spewed. Then Trump did it. And he is doing it again.

"Ah, so tariffs WON'T be paid.
#79 | Posted by Danforth"

No ----. That is exactly what I said from the beginning. The goods simply will not come to the US market because the tariffs make them non-competitive on price. You are just realizing this now ----heel?

"Except the equation they're using assumes trillions of dollars in new tariffs."

I told you from Day 1 that they the goal was to bring back jobs and the tariffs wouldn't be paid -------- - glad you can finally wrap your brain around that.

"Of course, that's point is moot, when you can't even admit tariffs are taxes, and consumers will ultimately pay them."

Because they won't - the goods simply won't ship outside of the ones that the manufacturers and middle men eat the cost on.

"BTW, if you picked up a history book, you might learn the income tax was introduced because the wealthiest weren't paying their fair share, and taxes were choking off the lower and middle classes."

Lie more - you tried this same lie a few days back and were already debunked on it. Why you are going to the well with it again makes now sense. Sad.

"The proposal on the table is to borrow $5 trillion, and give away $3 trillion that in tax cuts to the world's wealthiest 1/10th of 1%.
#82 | Posted by Danforth"

Only in liberal fantasy world --------.

"So we'll go without sneakers? No vanilla? No Heparin option for heart patients?
#84 | Posted by Danforth"

Critical goods will get reprieves until production is set up back in the US. As for sneakers - yeah, they are no longer going to be made in Uyghur concentration camps in China and shipped back to the US if Nike wants to make a profit. You act like we didn't have a competitive footwear industry in the US. Hell, you can sell buy New Balance shoes made in US factories - although even they were forced to outsource some production overseas due to companies like Nike.

"Yes, DUMFUQ. Over half the price of Trump 1.0 AND Trump 2.0 is tax giveaways to the world's wealthiest .1%
#85 | Posted by Danforth"

Do you EVER attempt to tell the truth?

"Meanwhile, I'm an advisor to hundreds of businesses.
#87 | Posted by Danforth"

Leaving raving liberal hate comments on Yelp does not make you an advisor -------. Again, try to find something to lie about that is not so easy to debunk. You have embarrassed yourself here today.

"#89 | Posted by ScottS"

Where did Danforth run off to now? He gets debunked on his total lie and now he slinks away into the night. Reminds me of Clown - did the same when I kicked the ---- out of him over his lies.

"Your example is of Americans."

What the F are you even arguing now? You are saying Trump gave tax breaks to non-US elites? How ---- stupid do you need to be before you just admit you lied and move on?

"For example, foreign investors got 15% of the price. American workers got LESS THAN 15%."

What the F are you even talking about -------? Try harder - your lies are just too ridiculous at this point.

"And once again, you're rounding first on your home run trot, before discovering the catcher is holding strike three.
#92 | Posted by Danforth"

You think you hit a homerun only to realize you are playing tennis --------.

Try harder - you lied, you got caught - and now you are trying to make an even more ridiculous argument. But, provide the link showing that the top .1% got more than 50% of Trump's tax cut.

"Hundreds of folks lined up to pay $175/hr makes me an advisor.
#93 | Posted by Danforth"

Are you back to the 2000 -------- you bragged about previously? Nobody is paying you a dime for your ridiculous financial advice -------.

"When are you planning to admit you misunderstood?
#94 | Posted by Danforth"

Great, so provide a link stating that the top .1% of the world's elite got more than 50% of the tax cut as you claimed --------.

"he WORLD's wealthiest 1/10th of 1% got the majority of the tax giveaways."
#99 | Posted by Danforth"

Great, link to that fact -------.

I don't even know how I would even do a Google search on a claim that is so patently ridiculous.

"I provided math.
#100 | Posted by Danforth"

You pulled numbers out of your ass and were rightly called on your --------. Just man up and admit it.

"#102 | Posted by ScottS"

Where did you run off to now Danforth? Still trying to find any article you can try to twist to support your points with some hefty goalpost moving?

You are not going to find it because you lied - and got called out on your --------.

"LOL Thats why you post here... LOL Hilarious.
#105 | Posted by oneironaut"

This guy is the biggest fraud on this website - and that is saying a lot. However, I do believe he was 'servicing' guys for $175/hr - he used to brag about the 2000 -------- he gave during his time in 'show business'.

"If you understood math, you'd know that 45% was THE FLOOR for the world's wealthiest.
#109 | Posted by Danforth"

You said "Over half the price of Trump 1.0 AND Trump 2.0 is tax giveaways to the world's wealthiest .1%"

So, we are still waiting on your math for that -------. When the top 5% only gets 45% in total - it is mathematically impossible for the .1% to over half of the tax cuts in total - I don't care if you want to expand this to international .1% or not. The math simply does not work and the fact that you can even come up with a link that would even vaguely support your point proves you got caught lying - AGAIN. You have no links because you just make ---- up and expect the liberal morons on this board to blindly accept it.

So, again - provide a link or just admit that you lied.

"This is false, paid by everyone in the chain.
#106 | Posted by oneironaut"

Actually, they are not and as such are different from corporate taxes being passed on to consumers. In the case of the corporate tax, it is a level playing field so the only way to escape them is to not buy the product. In the case of tariffs, it is different. You simply substitute to a non-tariff item as the tariff item becomes non-cost competitive. So, you still get your product in the case of tariffs - they just aren't going to come from China.

"How about this: Pretend there is ONE QUESTION on your lifetime final exam: Did more than half of the Trump 1.0 tax code go to the world's wealthiest 1/10th of 1%?
YES OR NO?
#111 | Posted by Danforth"

That is mathematically false and you have yet to provide a single link to support your ridiculous statement other than 'trust me bro'.

But, I will give you another chance - provide a link or man up and admit you got caught lying.

"One is an added cost, surcharged by the government to direct commerce.
#117 | Posted by Danforth"

That is not actually paid because consumers opt out of buying the tariffed product due to it being cost non-competitive. The only way it maintains cost competitiveness is if the middlemen and manufacturers eat the cost - in which case the consumers do not pay it.

Why you are you taking steps back now? You admitted as much earlier in this thread?

Remember this ------- post you had?

"" Too bad - no more cheap Chinese crap flooding the country."
Ah, so tariffs WON'T be paid.
Notice the fly in that ointment???
#79 | Posted by Danforth "

But, I grow tired of kicking you ass on this issue.

Let's get back to you getting caught making up your 0.1% stat. Got a link yet --------?

"No, it's true."

Great, then you should have no trouble providing a link to support your statement.

"And your claim proves you don't understand math, and how the WORLD's wealthiest is different from JUST AMERICA's wealthiest."

Already covered. We included all the tax saving on equity capital gains by foreigners (ALL GAINS, not just the top 0.1%) and it is $138B in a $4.5T tax plan. Again, your problem is with math and telling the truth.

"You already posted an article which didn't include foreign investors, most of which are well-to-do.
#118 | Posted by Danforth"

I did include it and it is a rounding error - but again, I would be happy for you to post the link that backs up what you claimed.

Of course, you won't because you can't. You made up a stat and presented it as true - got caught in your -------- and now you are digging your heels in like a child. Just man up and admit that you lied -------.

"I'm holding your third strike
#120 | Posted by Danforth"

You are deflecting because you want to do anything but admit that you have no link because you just lied and got caught.

So again, link up bitch. Still waiting.

"G'night all.
#124 | Posted by Danforth"

Go cry to mommy bitch. You should be embarrassed about your lies being exposed. Still waiting on that link.

"15% is NOT a rounding error.
#124 | Posted by Danforth"

138B / 4.5T is not 15% ------- - it is 3%. Is that why you made your original statement? You did not intentionally lie - you are just really, really bad at math?

"Still waiting on you reading the link I provided."

to irs.gov? LOL. Just admit you got nothing ------- - caught in a lie and then spin, spin spin.

"Everyone on this thread can see your glaring mistake. Except one.
#128 | Posted by Danforth "

You are even more pathetic than I first assumed. You are not even man enough to say that you 'meant something else' or some other such --------. Just admit it - you got caught lying.

"Your first article only included Americans, and not the WORLD's investors"

Great - so post your link that shows the Global .1% got 50% of the tax cut and I will stop calling you a liar. Of course, you can't.

"Ever since, it's been a case of you not being able to admit the article wasn't as encompassing as you thought."

No, it has been a case of me even giving you the benefit of the doubt and your big reveal is that your expanded definition may include an extra 3% of the tax cut - assuming that all foreign tax savings were for the 0.1% (which is ridiculous)

"Probably my 4th time exiling your rankness.
#129 | Posted by Danforth"

Yeah, whatever you do - don't post a link that would prove your argument - that would be...what do we call it? Common sense? Lol, just keep on spinning --------. Now cry cry to mommy bitch.

"#132
Issues
#132 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis"

That we can agree on. #132 was written by a grade A -------.

"#131 | Posted by ScottS"

-------- - still crying to mommy or did she tell you to be a man admit you got caught lying?

""whatever you do - don't post a link that would prove your argument "

I did."

Where is your link --------? Still waiting. What post number is this link?

"You just don't know how to read it, or analyze it."

You have not posted any link you lying little bitch. When you do, copy and paste the statement from it stating that the top .1% received over 50% of the tax cut like a normal, non-lying person would do.

"Why can't you admit your initial posted article didn't cover the world, it just covered America? It's not difficult."

I posted 2 links - and both say you are full of ----. And your response - 'trust me bro'.

Just admit that you lied and we can move one from this.

"Just ask yourself: which way would the macro dials go, if the WORLD's wealthiest were included in the analysis? Does that 45% floor raise, or lower?"

I don't need to ask myself anything - YOU need to post a link that backs up your claim - still waiting on that --------. And that 45%, that is the TOP 5%, not the top .1% you lying piece of ----.

"Why is it so hard to believe that, once included, THE WORLD's top 1/10th of 1% got OVER HALF the cost of the Trump 1.0 tax code?
#137 | Posted by Danforth"

Because it is mathematically impossible -------- - which is why you can't find a single link that backs up your ridiculous statement. But again - this is the easiest argument for you to win and shut me up - all you need to do is post a link proving you didn't lie. Unfortunately for you, that link does not exist.

Go cry to mommy --------.

"#139 | Posted by ClownShack"

So you being homeless now just put you ahead of the curve I guess. Good for you -------.

"#142 | Posted by reinheitsgebot"

Did -------- promise you anything in return for running to his aid? Maybe one of his famous -------- he loves to brag about.

"Sure, if you leave out non-americans."

Still is mathematically impossible when the total foreigner benefit (all foreigners not just the top .1%) is 3% of the total tax cut as I already linked above and the top 5% of Americans only receive 45% of the tax cut as I already linked above. You have a losing hand here - just admit that you lied --------.

"Show me in your first link where the claim is EVERYONE, instead of only Americans.
#145 | Posted by Danforth"

We take the 2 links in combination --------. But again, all you have to do is produce a link backing up your statement - it has been almost a day so far and you didn't do it yet. It is not even on me to produce a link because I didn't make a ridiculous claim I can't back up - YOU DID. So, now - provide the link or admit you lied --------.

"Taking pleasure in the misery of others and not understanding how we're all living in the same society is the shortsightedness I'd expect from deplorable Trumping MAGAts
#146 | Posted by ClownShack"

I don't find humor in the fact that you are an economic failure. I do find it funny though - that despite your obvious personal failings - you feel entitled to come on this website to weigh in on job creation and tax policy. Maybe start at home before you start crafting national policy.

"How is that strategy going to help you when this nation collapses due to Trump's ignorance?
#149 | Posted by ClownShack"

What is my strategy for when flaming monkeys shoot out of your ass? I don't have one because it is not going to happen.

Now, I will ask you so you are on the record:

What do yo mean by the collapse of the US? Hyper inflation, military defeat, unemployment over 25%? Tell me exactly what you predict to occur in the next 4 years.

"#145 | Posted by Danforth"

And don't think I forgot about you either -------- - where is your link?