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Saturday, April 12, 2025

The last ten days have thrown into doubt the role of the United States at the core of the global economic and financial system.

The big picture: After generations in which the U.S. dollar and its government securities have been the world's bedrock safe haven assets, global investors woke up this week to the possibility that they are not particularly safe, and not at all a haven.

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Investors dump US government bonds as faith in America falters
www.france24.com

... The upheaval in stocks has been grabbing all the headlines, but there is a bigger problem looming in another corner of the financial markets that rarely gets headlines: Investors are dumping US government bonds.

Treasury bonds are essentially IOUs from the US government, and they're how Washington pays its bills despite collecting less in revenue than it spends. Investors normally rush to them at any whiff of economic chaos " but now they are selling them, as not even the lure of higher interest payments on the bonds is luring buyers.

The freak development has experts worried that big banks, funds and traders are losing faith in America as a stable, predictable place to store their money.

"The fear is the US is losing its standing as the safe haven," said George Cipolloni, a fund manager at Penn Mutual Asset Management. "Our bond market is the biggest and most stable in the world, but when you add instability, bad things can happen."

That could be bad news for taxpayers paying interest on the ballooning US debt, consumers taking out mortgages or car loans " and for President Donald Trump, who had hoped his tariff pause earlier this week would restore confidence in the markets.

A week ago, the yield on the 10-year Treasury was 4.01%. On Friday, the yield shot as high as 4.58% before sliding back to around 4.50%. That's a major swing for the bond market, which measures moves by the hundredths of a percentage point. ...


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-12 06:42 PM | Reply

As if Putin designed it.

#2 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-04-12 07:29 PM | Reply

@#2 ... As if Putin designed it. ...

My view is that Pres Putin has long viewed Pres Trump as a "useful idiot" for what Pres Putin wanted to do to the West.

So, Pres Putin then, I'll say, promoted Pres Trump to the forefront.

OpEd: Putin plans to destroy America from within (2017)
www.timesonline.com

... Valery Gerasimov is the Russian general who devised their new geopolitical strategy of hybrid warfare. This is an integrated system of cyberattacks, subversion, espionage and propaganda aimed at undermining Russia's adversaries without firing a single shot.

While Americans bankrupt themselves so as to re-fight the last war, it literally sneaks in the back door. It now seeks to use all of our own weaknesses, hypocrisies and momentum against us. Meanwhile, most Americans don't seem to realize that such a war even exists. ...

The U.S. constitution was drafted by men who knew all the dark powers of authoritarianism, and the many challenges posed in building any real democracy. World history has documented the eagerness of leaders to impose their own beliefs as God's law. Racial, social, economic and political history shows the eagerness of strong-willed groups to dominate their neighbors.

Democracy is a messy business that asks people to give others all possible room necessary to do their thing. It allows good ideas the opportunity to flourish by the power of their civic example, in a sort of cultural free enterprise. ...


#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-12 08:18 PM | Reply

Thanks magat scum for all the destruction coming our way

#4 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-04-12 08:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Whenever Europeans write about financial matters, I have to laugh. The French GDP per capita is basically unchanged from the 'great recession' and now it is losing its last trading partner for their luxury brands as China is effectively bankrupt. If they keep up the anti-American rhetoric, US tourism will go away and the country will be left with nothing except run away crime and mass construction of mosques.

#5 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-12 08:21 PM | Reply

@#5 ... Whenever Europeans write about financial matters, I have to laugh. ...

Apparently, Pres Trump did not laugh, he seemed to agree with the French on this issue.

He retreated, big time.


#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-12 08:27 PM | Reply

Related ...

Why China Buys U.S. Debt With Treasury Bonds (February 2025)
www.investopedia.com

... China has steadily accumulated U.S. Treasury securities over the last few decades. As of December 2024, the Asian nation owned $759 billion in Treasuries (bonds issued by the federal government), which is the main form of U.S. debt to China.12

Some analysts and investors fear China could dump these Treasuries in retaliation and that this weaponization of its holdings would send interest rates higher, potentially hurting economic growth. The amount of Treasuries China holds has been decreasing since 2018. ...



#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-12 08:29 PM | Reply

... and, more recently ...

U.S. Rally At Risk As China May Be Dumping Treasuries (April 9, 2025)
www.forbes.com

... U.S. stocks rallied, but soaring overnight Treasury yields suggest China may be quietly selling U.S. debt in response to new tariffs.

With bond markets flashing warning signs while Americans sleep, investors risk missing a major shift. This article explores the hidden risks behind the rally -- and why the celebration may be premature. ...


#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-12 08:32 PM | Reply

"He retreated, big time.
#6 | Posted by LampLighter"

You only think that if you are a total dipshit.

For his entire life, Trump does the following:

1.) take a very extreme position offering a 'worst case scenario'
2.) offer a path to negotiate something less extreme
3.) finalize a deal on better terms than he had previously

It is literally rinse and repeat but you dipshit liberals still can't seem to understand it.

#9 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-12 08:33 PM | Reply

#5 whenever you write anything I have to laugh because you're a stupid pile of s^%#.

#10 | Posted by jpw at 2025-04-12 08:33 PM | Reply

The stops kicked in of my Schwab High Yield Bond Fund position a week or two ago.

It's a long way down. Longer every day Republicans ruin the economy.

I'm not saying DOW 1200 but 20,000 doesn't seem at all out of reach.

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-12 08:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"#5 whenever you write anything I have to laugh
#10 | Posted by jpw"

You laugh due to ignorant bliss - so is the fate of a low-skilled beaker washer. You still want to say that covid could not have come from a lab leak? Even the FBI says it did because unskilled beaker washers like yourself are the perfect mix of ignorance and hubris.

#12 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-12 08:42 PM | Reply

"#11 | Posted by snoofy"

You don't have 2 nickels to rub together dipshit - why pretend you have investment accounts? Your net worth fluctuates by 50% depending on how much gas you have in your shitbucket of a car.

#13 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-12 08:44 PM | Reply

@#9 ... You only think that if you are a total dipshit. ...

Again, with the ad hominem attack in a lame attempt to justify a position.

... For his entire life, Trump does the following: ...

Yeah, that's his "Art of the Deal" approach.

How many bankruptcies has that approach resulted in for Trump, Inc?

I count six.

OK, so, now, let's take that short-term transactional view to the world.

And the world is saying, WTF, we have issues with the stability of the US Dollar.

So, will the US be Pres Trump's seventh bankruptcy?


#14 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-12 08:45 PM | Reply

we have issues with the stability of the US Dollar.

What would the replacement be for the reserve currency? The Euro?

#15 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-04-12 08:51 PM | Reply

An interesting viewpoint...

OpEd: We're watching Trump's 7th bankruptcy unfold (2020)
finance.yahoo.com

... As a businessman, Donald Trump ran 6 businesses that declared bankruptcy because they couldn't pay their bills.

As the president running for a second term, Trump is repeating some of the mistakes he made as a businessman and risking the downfall of yet another venture: his own political operation.

In the 1980s, Trump was a swashbuckling real-estate investor who bet big on the rise of Atlantic City after New Jersey legalized gambling there. He acquired three casinos that by 1991 couldn't pay their debts. The Taj Mahal declared bankruptcy in 1991, the Trump Plaza and the Trump Castle in 1992. Lenders restructured the debt rather than liquidate and Trump put his casino holdings into a new company that went bankrupt in 2004. The company that emerged from that restructuring declared bankruptcy in 2009. Trump's 6th bankruptcy was the Plaza Hotel, which he bought in 1988. It went bankrupt by 1992. ...


#16 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-12 08:55 PM | Reply

@#15 ... What would the replacement be for the reserve currency? The Euro? ...

The depends upon how far Pres Trump drags down the US dollar.

OpEd: Trump's Tariffs Were Supposed to Boost the Dollar. Why the Opposite Happened.
www.wsj.com

... While President Trump has always claimed to want a weaker dollar, the consensus among investors was that his policies would strengthen it. Turns out he was right, but perhaps in the worst way.

On Thursday, stocks tumbled in the U.S., Europe and Asia following Trump's unveiling of a raft of punishing "Liberation Day" tariffs. What was more unexpected is that the U.S. dollar tumbled against most major currencies. The WSJ Dollar Index, an indicator based on a basket of currencies, has now lost more than 5.9% this year and is below where it was on Nov. 5, before its postelection rally.

This is making Wall Street analysts look pretty bad: Most were telling investors, even up to the very moment in which tariffs were announced Wednesday, that protectionist policies would push up the currency. The idea was that fewer purchases of overseas goods would narrow the trade deficit and mechanically reduce U.S. demand for foreign exchange.

Also, U.S. growth is outpacing the eurozone's, which has historically been dollar-positive.

Instead, speculators have swung to betting heavily against the greenback ...


#17 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-12 09:01 PM | Reply

@#17 ... Instead, speculators have swung to betting heavily against the greenback ...

The "greenback" in this instance is the US Dollar.

#18 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-12 09:03 PM | Reply

"What would the replacement be for the reserve currency? The Euro?
#15 | Posted by REDIAL"

France GDP per capita: $45,091
German GDP per capita: $55,837

Alabama GDP per capita: $56,684

Yeah, the Euro is totally going to displace the USD as the reserve currency.

#19 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-12 09:21 PM | Reply

Per capita GDP comparisons don't mean much, if anything.

If the world seeks a more stable reserve currency, they will find one.

#20 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-04-12 09:29 PM | Reply

@#19 ... Yeah, the Euro is totally going to displace the USD as the reserve currency. ...

The usual ad hominem attacks aside (which show the lameness of the reply)

Please explain how your current per capita analysis is related to reserve currency.

And, as a followup, also explain your current alias' criteria for a reserve currency.

Is it stability or GDP per capita?



#21 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-12 09:33 PM | Reply

@#2 ... Per capita GDP comparisons don't mean much, if anything.

If the world seeks a more stable reserve currency, they will find one. ...

Yup.

@#19 seems to the the result of someone exiting methane from their analpore.


#22 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-12 09:35 PM | Reply

"Per capita GDP comparisons don't mean much, if anything.
#20 | Posted by REDIAL"

Sounds like something a dipshit canuck would say given they have had not GDP per capita growth in a decade under their blackface, closeted, fuhrer. Leave economics to Americans - it is beyond the comprehension of Europeans and their inbred Canadian cousins.

#23 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-12 09:39 PM | Reply

Ireland and Norway have a higher GDP per capita than the US. So does Singapore. And Luxembourg. And Qatar. And Switzerland. And Brunei.

#24 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-04-12 09:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Oh, and Alabama? 6th highest poverty rate in the US and the largest employer (by far) is the US Army.

#25 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-04-12 10:03 PM | Reply

"Ireland"

Due to multinational companies using it as a tax haven for reporting purposes. What is their median household disposable income? It is about $55,000. It is $80,610 for the US. The Irish are poor potato eaters now just like they have been for the last 400 years - it is just now that they are poor potato eaters with some migrant diversity so their food is not so terrible.

"Norway"

Norway's median household disposable income adjusted for PPP is $42,000 - so, about half of that of the median US household.

"So does Singapore."

Singapore's median household disposable income is $52,600. So, that would make strike 3.

"And Luxembourg."

Luxembourg's median household disposable income is $49,748

#24 | Posted by REDIAL a"

At this point, I will just stop as it is tiresome constantly proving that Snow-Mexicans don't anything about economics. You seem to love countries that set themselves up as international tax havens and/or have huge income disparities where a small few elites rule over a nation of poor people. Maybe that is why you dipshits love the dystopian system in California.

#26 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-12 10:07 PM | Reply

"Oh, and Alabama? 6th highest poverty rate in the US and the largest employer (by far) is the US Army.
#25 | Posted by REDIAL"

You are making my point - the biggest shithole states in the US are still better off economically than the Western European countries you want to emulate. No wonder the blackface wearing, closeted, fuhrer was able to run your shithole country for so many years - Snow Mexicans are just plain stupid.

#27 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-12 10:09 PM | Reply

@#23 ... they have had not GDP per capita growth ...

How does your current alias extrapolate GDP per capita growth to stability of the underlying monetary unit?

Asked differently, how do Pres Trump's recent declarations, and subsequent retreats, further the stabilization of the US Dollar?

Or are those actions working to destabilize the Dollar?

Then there's this ...

Trump Wants a Weaker Dollar. Getting One Isn't So Easy. (2019)
www.nytimes.com

... President Trump has made no secret of his frustration that the United States dollar has strengthened against other currencies. ...



But, I have to ask, in his attempt to weaken the Dollar, is Pres Trump destroying the Dollar as the world's currency?

#28 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-12 10:14 PM | Reply

"#28 | Posted by LampLighter"

Got a link?

#29 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-12 10:23 PM | Reply

Snow Mexicans

Yet another sock puppet tell.

#30 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-04-12 10:23 PM | Reply

Snow Mexican doesn't want you to know the price of housing and food since Black Face took control of the Kanucks.
#9 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-02-08 04:29 PM

Snow Mexican says what?
#5 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-02-08 01:40 PM

I guess that resolves that.

#31 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-04-12 10:28 PM | Reply

"I guess that resolves that.
#31 | Posted by REDIAL"

LOL. You really cracked the case Columbo.

#32 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-12 10:30 PM | Reply

"What is their median household disposable income? It is about $55,000. It is $80,610 for the US."

Now subtract health insurance from the American number. It's currently missing in the so-called "comparison".

Intellectually dishonest to compare two numbers when one includes health insurance, and one doesn't...wouldn't you say?

#33 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-13 03:58 AM | Reply

"Now subtract health insurance from the American number. It's currently missing in the so-called comparison".
doesn't...wouldn't you say?"
#33 | Posted by Danforth

Try again shitheel.

"In the U.S., disposable income calculation includes health insurance premiums as a deduction, but only if they are deducted from your paycheck as part of your employment benefits. This is because health insurance premiums are considered a mandatory deduction, similar to taxes, when they are taken directly from your gross income before you receive your paycheck."

en.wikipedia.org

#34 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-13 10:05 AM | Reply

Scotts. Is that you, Ira Goldberg?

Same mix of arrogance and stupidity.

I'm thinking Scotts is a sockpuppet.

#35 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-04-13 11:29 AM | Reply

"#35 | Posted by Effeteposer"

Another commie that wants to be kicked around? That is fine by me. Still waiting for anything you leftwing dipshits predict to come true. Been waiting a long time.

#36 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-13 11:34 AM | Reply

Intel Scatberg is the diseased kid-diddler who predicted the orange child rapist's Covid body count would be less than 60,000.

#37 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-04-13 11:39 AM | Reply

"#37 | Posted by reinheitsgebot"

I really hope Kash finally does the pedophile sweep so trash like Rein can spend the rest of their miserable lives in jail.

#38 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-13 11:52 AM | Reply

""In the U.S., disposable income calculation includes health insurance premiums as a deduction, but only if they are deducted from your paycheck as part of your employment benefits. "

That the economists have to model our health care costs as a visit from the tax man, when the actual collector of our health care costs is Wall Street, is fucking crazy.

Shows how broken our system is.

In the United States, if you don't have health care, you don't pay that "tax."
And your proportional share of disposable household income goes up.
Congratulations, you are slightly richer than your European counterparts, until you get sick!

#39 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-13 11:55 AM | Reply

" In the U.S., disposable income calculation includes health insurance premiums as a deduction, but only if they are deducted from your paycheck as part of your employment benefits"

Thanks for proving me right. Double thanks for being too stupid to know you proved me right.

#40 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-13 12:01 PM | Reply

" health insurance premiums as a deduction, but only if they are deducted from your paycheck"

That's a tiny fraction of the total cost. I pay about $50 every two weeks for health insurance, $1300 a year. The company pays the other $8200. And I'm pretty sure they get a tax write-off on that too.

If you can't hack it as a Priest or a Televangelist, tax-free income awaits you in the Health Insurance industry.

#41 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-13 12:10 PM | Reply

It's a shame scatberg's diseased melon hasn't been pulped by one of his victims.

#42 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-04-13 12:30 PM | Reply

"Incel Scatberg is the diseased kid-diddler who predicted the orange child rapist's Covid body count would be less than 60,000"

The moron kept trying to link vaccines with death, and for proof, linked the VAERS site...

...where they LITERALLY warned against morons like him, making conclusions like his.

But, but, but...he NEVER lost a debate!!!

Finished top-of-his-class at Dunning-Kruger, too! Just ask him!!!

#43 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-13 12:31 PM | Reply

"I'm pretty sure they get a tax write-off on that too"

Yes, they do.

#44 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-13 12:32 PM | Reply

"In the U.S., disposable income calculation includes health insurance premiums as a deduction, but only if they are deducted from your paycheck as part of your employment benefits"

Thanks for proving me right. Double thanks for being too stupid to know you proved me right.

#40 | Posted by Danforth"

You need to re-read shitheel - it is not saying what you think it says. A majority of health insurance premiums are deducted from your paycheck for employer provided health care AND/OR are paid directly by the employer - less than 10% of people direct pay and aren't covered through employer plans, MEDICARE, MEDICAID or TRICARE. As such, the amount you pay is already captured in the disposable income calculation as your net pay was reduced, or in the case of the employer paid benefit - does not decrease your disposable income.

The only thing not captured is the 'out of pocket expenses' - and we can look at your butt-buddy Snoofy for some numbers to put to that.

Per snoofy "That's a tiny fraction of the total cost. I pay about $50 every two weeks for health insurance, $1300 a year. The company pays the other $8200."

Now, I am going to assume snoofy means HE pays after receiving his check (if it is withheld from his check, it is already captured in the calculation). In the case he is actually paying, the net deduction from his disposable income would be $1,300/year - a far fucking cry from the $25,000 difference you are trying to spin for the US being poor like Europe.

Again, you are the perfect mix of ignorance and hubris - keep trying through, you might actually win an argument some day.

#45 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-13 12:43 PM | Reply

"You need to re-read"

If you don't understand the analysis is comparing TWO DIFFERENT situations, the problem is in your mirror.

"As such, the amount you pay is already captured"

For some it is, for some it isn't. THAT MAKES THEM DIFFERENT than the comparative number.

Again, you don't get to claim victory if you're too stupid to know you lost.

For example: tell us again how tariffs aren't taxes.

#46 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-13 12:50 PM | Reply

"...you are the perfect mix of ignorance and hubris"

My irony meter just exploded.

#47 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-13 12:51 PM | Reply

Still waiting for anything you leftwing dipshits predict to come true. Been waiting a long time.

#36 | POSTED BY SCOTTS

Guess you missed that whole Iraq WMD debacle Liberals predicted exactly how that would turn out.

You probably missed it because you were probably not born yet.

You can't be more than what.. 12 years old?

#48 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-04-13 12:58 PM | Reply

"If you don't understand the analysis is comparing TWO DIFFERENT situations, the problem is in your mirror."

It is comparing exactly what I said it was. You just can't seem to read.

"For some it is, for some it isn't. THAT MAKES THEM DIFFERENT than the comparative number."

Yeah, for the 10% that self pay shitheel. That is not going to be anywhere near enough to explain a difference between $55,000 and $80,000 ON AVERAGE. Admit you lost and you are just desperate to claim some kind of moral victory.

"Again, you don't get to claim victory if you're too stupid to know you lost."

You need to take that advice to heart dipshit.

"For example: tell us again how tariffs aren't taxes.
#46 | Posted by Danforth"

I already kicked your ass on that topic shitheel - you want to recap it again?

Here you go shitheel:
"That's because US consumers will be the ones paying the tariffs. Which are taxes.
#53 | Posted by Danforth"

The article directly refutes you shitheel. Here is the reality - same as I told you before - the manufacturers and middlemen will eat a vast majority of the tariffs and the rest of the orders will be cancelled because they are not competitively priced. China already has 80% order cancellation rates and goods being returned that already hit US ports.

Posted by ScottS

#49 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-13 12:59 PM | Reply

"Guess you missed that whole Iraq WMD debacle Liberals predicted exactly how that would turn out.
#48 | Posted by donnerboy"

That war your dipshit liberal leaders voted for before they voted against it? Yeah, not a real great example - especially given how the Democrats are now the party of forever war.

#50 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-13 01:01 PM | Reply

Scatberg, the orange pedo's tariff surcharges are already appearing on customer receipts. Take the L, short eyes.

www.foxbusiness.com

#51 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-04-13 01:03 PM | Reply

"The article directly refutes you":

So one moron found another moron. Tariffs are taxes. The equation has the wealthy paying less in taxes, and the consumer paying A LOT more.

Regarding the "disposable income" comparison, The explanation admits not all the apples were apples. My guess is the group itself was cherry-picked, and self-employed folks aren't represented.

#52 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-13 01:08 PM | Reply

"tariff surcharges"

Hmmm...extra money the government collects?!? THAT'S A TAX.

A rose, by any other name....

#53 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-13 01:10 PM | Reply

"#51 | Posted by reinheitsgebot"

From your own link dipshit:
"It doesn't cover the full cost"not even close"

- and -

"Amazon CEO Andy Jassy recently told CNBC that he thinks manufacturers will start to "pass that cost" on to customers rather than trying to absorb it."

My guess is the girl in the article selling Chinese dildos will go out of business. Now, I know you are all broken up about not being able to buy Chinese manufactured dildos modeled on 12 year old boys - but, this is business the US does not need. She will eat the cost and most likely, her sales go to zero.

#54 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-13 01:12 PM | Reply

"the manufacturers and middlemen will eat a vast majority of the tariffs"

Short-term, yes.

But long term?!? NFW.

I guess umfuqs gotta dumfuq.

#55 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-13 01:12 PM | Reply

"I already kicked your ass"

Right, Fredo. You're "smaaaaart".

#56 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-13 01:14 PM | Reply

"Hmmm...extra money the government collects?!? THAT'S A TAX.
A rose, by any other name....
#53 | Posted by Danforth"

Paid by Chinese manufacturers and middle men - not US consumers. Well, I guess in the case of the woman selling Chinese manufactured dildos, she may have an incel liberal or 2 that will pay it before she goes out of business.

#57 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-13 01:14 PM | Reply

" not being able to buy Chinese manufactured dildos modeled on 12 year old boys"

Once again, in the middle of a discussion, Scatberg brings up gay sex.

Open the closet, dude. Get some air.

#58 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-13 01:16 PM | Reply

"But long term?!? NFW."

Long-term, the jobs come back and non-Chinese manufacturers fill the gap. 80% order cancellation rates for Chinese orders for the US dipshit.

"I guess umfuqs gotta dumfuq.
#55 | Posted by Danforth"

I told you before, I don't know your NAMBLA coded language. So, I guess that last part was meant for Rein.

#59 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-13 01:16 PM | Reply

Scatberg says the consumer isn't paying extra for the orange pedo's tariffs. What a liar.

www.dailydot.com

#60 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-04-13 01:18 PM | Reply

"Once again, in the middle of a discussion, Scatberg brings up gay sex.
#58 | Posted by Danforth"

The article says she owns 'a sexual wellness company' - what do you think she sells? Given that Rein found the link and was outraged, I can only assume the dildos are kid sized or he wouldn't give 2 shits.

#61 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-13 01:18 PM | Reply

Scatberg gives TB to the toddlers he defiles.

#62 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-04-13 01:19 PM | Reply

These are the folks in scatberg's social circle.

docs.google.com

#63 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-04-13 01:20 PM | Reply

"#60 | Posted by reinheitsgebot"

"In a post shared to the r/Anticonsumption subreddit, u/ProperMod said that their wife's friend purchased children's summer clothing from the clothing company Fabletics."

So, seems you first shopped for Chinese manufactured dildos in kid sizes and now you are shopping for children's clothes. Yeah, that is not creepy at all....

#64 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-13 01:21 PM | Reply

"Paid by Chinese manufacturers and middle men"

Middle men, meaning American importers.

Your theory is they will eat the majority of the cost increases, and not pass them on to the consumer.

My theory is you don't understand how businesses work, especially businesses which survive in tough times.

#65 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-13 01:21 PM | Reply

"The article says she owns 'a sexual wellness company' - what do you think she sells?"

Maybe dildos.

You're the one who added his fantasy.

#66 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-13 01:22 PM | Reply

Look at kid-diddler scatberg trying to deflect away from the orange rapist's tariff surchargees. Pathetic.

#67 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-04-13 01:23 PM | Reply

"I told you before, I don't know your NAMBLA coded language"

And again.

No real need...except, obviously, your subconscious.

Seriously...go look on your comments page.

#68 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-13 01:24 PM | Reply

" I can only assume the dildos are kid sized "

And again.

It's where your brain immediately goes, post after post.

Seek help.

#69 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-13 01:26 PM | Reply

"Middle men, meaning American importers."

Yep, and they are - as was proven on the original article.

"Your theory is they will eat the majority of the cost increases, and not pass them on to the consumer."

Yep - because that is what is happening.

www.thestandard.com.hk

"My theory is you don't understand how businesses work, especially businesses which survive in tough times.
#65 | Posted by Danforth"

Stick with interpretive dance dipshit - economics are above your pay grade.

#70 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-13 01:28 PM | Reply

"It's where your brain immediately goes, post after post.
#69 | Posted by Danforth"

When it comes to Rein? Yes - I 100% believe Rein is a pedophile. I have no doubt in my mind of that fact.

#71 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-13 01:29 PM | Reply

" because that is what is happening."

If you think it will KEEP happening, while businesses lose profits to these TAXES THEY HAVE TO PAY, you're even dumber than I thought.

Oh wait...that IS your theory.

#72 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-13 01:31 PM | Reply

It's obvious that scatberg is a serial child rapist.

#73 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-04-13 01:31 PM | Reply

Long-term, the jobs don't come back as non-American manufacturers fill the gap.

#74 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-13 01:34 PM | Reply

"If you think it will KEEP happening, while businesses lose profits
#72 | Posted by Danforth"

Middle men and manufacturers will eat the costs where the can - in the case they can't, sales go to zero. Here is another article for you on this exact scenario AGAIN dipshit:

www.thestandard.com.hk

We got a middleman being squeezed because he has his retail partner price already set and if he passes on the cost of the tariffs, sales will go to zero. So, he holds the products in China and does not even bother to ship them. Yes, this is happening x10000+ importers.

Too bad - no more cheap Chinese crap flooding the country.

#75 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-13 01:36 PM | Reply

There goes scatberg's toddler real doll.

#76 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-04-13 01:38 PM | Reply

"Long-term, the jobs don't come back as non-American manufacturers fill the gap.
#74 | Posted by snoofy"

That is what dipshit Obama said about US manufacturing jobs. I know you remember it - the 'you need a magic wand to bring back manufacturing jobs' bullshit Obama spewed. Then Trump did it. And he is doing it again.

#77 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-13 01:40 PM | Reply

Scatberg's child-raping hero has the worst jobs record since Hoover. Short eyes grabs another L.

#78 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-04-13 01:43 PM | Reply

" Too bad - no more cheap Chinese crap flooding the country."

Ah, so tariffs WON'T be paid.

Notice the fly in that ointment???

#79 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-13 02:26 PM | Reply

"Ah, so tariffs WON'T be paid.
#79 | Posted by Danforth"

No shit. That is exactly what I said from the beginning. The goods simply will not come to the US market because the tariffs make them non-competitive on price. You are just realizing this now shitheel?

#80 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-13 02:42 PM | Reply

What Trump is doing to the economy sure seems like it is inspired by the right-wing cult classic "Atlas Shrugged."

"The book depicts a dystopian United States in which heavy industry companies suffer under increasingly burdensome laws and regulations."

Republican mythology is why Republicans think the burdensome laws and regulations are the EPA and the FDA and OSHA.

But the burdensome laws and regulations are actually the Trump Tariffs.

#81 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-13 03:43 PM | Reply

"The goods simply will not come to the US market because the tariffs make them non-competitive on price."

Except the equation they're using assumes trillions of dollars in new tariffs.

And that STILL doesn't balance the budget.

Of course, that's point is moot, when you can't even admit tariffs are taxes, and consumers will ultimately pay them.

BTW, if you picked up a history book, you might learn the income tax was introduced because the wealthiest weren't paying their fair share, and taxes were choking off the lower and middle classes.

The proposal on the table is to borrow $5 trillion, and give away $3 trillion that in tax cuts to the world's wealthiest 1/10th of 1%.

And replace the progressive income tax system, with ultra-regressive tariffs.

#82 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-13 04:41 PM | Reply

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