Wednesday, May 21, 2025

Trump Confronts South Africa's Leader with False Claims of White Genocide

In a moment that rivaled the Trump-Zelensky meeting, the South African leader Cyril Ramaphosa met at the White House with Trump who showed Ramaphosa a video and print outs to prove that White genocide is happening in South Africa. Ramaphosa pushed back on Trump's claims but expressed his willingness to have an in-depth conversation with Trump about the claims.

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Trump spends most of a meeting with South Africa's president rambling about disproven claims and conspiracy theories www.rollingstone.com/politics/pol ...

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"Gareth Newham, who heads a justice and violence prevention program at the Institute for Security Studies in South Africa.

"As an independent Institute tracking violence and violent crime in South Africa, if there was any evidence of either a genocide or targeted violence taking place against any group based on their ethnicity this, we would be amongst the first to raise (the) alarm and provide the evidence to the world."

www.pbs.org

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"The stated reasons for [Trump's actions] are claims of victimisation, violence and hateful rhetoric against white people in South Africa along with legislation providing for the expropriation of land without compensation," read the letter from white South African religious leaders, which included among its four authors an Anglican priest.

"As white South Africans in active leadership within the Christian community, representing diverse political and theological perspectives, we unanimously reject these claims."

www.npr.org

Trump's lies are like music to the Cult's big floppy ears.


#1 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-22 12:59 AM

Weird how Trump lies through his teeth at least half the time, and is called on those lies by a lot of the press not named Fox News, and still he doesn't lose followers. White power hate is strong in Trump and his family...

#2 | Posted by Hughmass at 2025-05-22 07:09 AM

Dont believe the people actually going through it. You think those white farmers are lying?

And using PBS and NPR as a source Corky is like me using Dailymail. Both of those are so far left as to not be believed.

#3 | Posted by boaz at 2025-05-22 07:50 AM

Dont believe the people actually going through it. You think those white farmers are lying?
And using PBS and NPR as a source Corky is like me using Dailymail. Both of those are so far left as to not be believed.

Posted by boaz at 2025-05-22 07:50 AM | Reply

You're trying your damnest to insult our intelligence Boaz. It's painfully obvious to anyone.

#4 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-05-22 08:04 AM

And this mentally ill president expects the Pope to accept his invitation to visit the White House? One can only imagine that conversation. JV will be ------- Leo's leg, Drunken Pete will offer him a double bourbon, a clip of "The Passion of The Christ" will be viewed, after which Trump will complain about Jesus being treated unfairly by the Swiss Guard, and Leo will be offered various Trump-branded items to purchase...

#5 | Posted by catdog at 2025-05-22 08:17 AM

South Africa has allowed crime to fester and proliferate against certain races and innocent people just as Democrat DAs in LA, Chicago,NYC and other urban areas allow crime.

The perps and people who perpetuate and participate in violent crime and felons illegally carrying firearms need incarcerated forever. Take them off the streets. But Democrats always want the criminal trash on the streets just as certain factions do in South Africa. Criminals need removed forever.

#6 | Posted by Robson at 2025-05-22 08:30 AM

"Dont believe the people actually going through it. You think those white farmers are lying?

#3 | POSTED BY BOAZ AT 2025-05-22 07:50 AM | REPLY | FLAG"

Link to BBC article:

www.bbc.co.uk

From the article:

"There was an image clearly visible as Trump spoke and said: "Look, here's burial sites all over the place. These are all white farmers that are being buried."

But the image isn't from South Africa - it's actually from a report about women being killed in the Democratic Republic of Congo.

The French news agency (AFP) initially pointed out the image, and BBC Verify ran a search and confirmed it as being from a Reuters news agency clip filmed in the DR Congo city of Goma in February."

Looks like someone is lying.

#7 | Posted by Foreigner at 2025-05-22 09:23 AM

"You think those white farmers are lying?"

Who cares?
Why is it any of America's business?

Why can't you answer such a simple question?
Because you are a bitch.

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-22 09:28 AM

You think those white farmers are lying?

Looks like someone is lying.

#7 | POSTED BY FOREIGNER

Was Trumpy's lips moving? Then he was lying. He's The Lyin King!

It's always fun to watch a racist confront someone of color and to see how that person of color handles the racist.

#9 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-05-22 11:11 AM

Dont believe the people actually going through it. You think those white farmers are lying?
#3 | Posted by boaz

Do I believe that white farmers whose families unfairly benefits from apartheid for generations now feel conditions have worsened for them in South Africa? Yes just like it probably really sucked for US slave owners after the Civil War.
Do I believe they are victims of Genocide? Not a chance.

Here are facts: South African police recorded 26,232 murders nationwide in 2024, of which 44 were linked to farming communities. Of those, eight of the victims were farmers.
Don't believe the SA police? How about the Afrikaner farmers' union? They have counted 1,363 white farmers murdered since 1990, or an average of 40 a year - far less than 1% of total murders.
Claims about SA seizing land from white farmers is also a lie. Three-quarters of privately-owned farmland is held by whites, who make up less than 8% of the population. 4% is owned by Black South Africans who make up 80% of the population.
That photo that Trump showed of body bags and claiming they were murdered white farmers...that was a lie. That photo wasn't even from South Africa. It was taken from video footage after a battle in the Democratic Republic of Congo between the countries military and Rwandan backed rebels.
www.reuters.com

#10 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-05-22 11:46 AM

Looks like someone is lying.
#7 | Posted by Foreigner

OK now debunk this one:

en.wikipedia.org

#11 | Posted by itchyp at 2025-05-22 11:50 AM

archive.is
archive.is
archive.is
archive.is
archive.is

#12 | Posted by itchyp at 2025-05-22 11:50 AM

About the stadium chant:
"That's just one party"

-doesn't condemn party

#13 | Posted by itchyp at 2025-05-22 11:52 AM

OK now debunk this one:
en.wikipedia.org
#11 | POSTED BY ITCHYP

Dear poster.

You have already exceeded your Daily allowance of lies and disinformation.

Come back tomorrow for another debunking.

#14 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-05-22 11:54 AM

very interesting. It's almost as if somebody doesn't want you to see victim pictures.

i.4cdn.org

#15 | Posted by itchyp at 2025-05-22 11:57 AM

It's not as if this hasn't been tried before.

Zimbabwe:
-dispossessed white farmers
-invited whites to leave country
-ran out of food
-begged the world for food
-begged the white farmers to come back

#16 | Posted by itchyp at 2025-05-22 12:03 PM

Don't misunderstand; I am in favor of totally liberating Africa from any trace of foreign influence.
Africa for Africans.

#17 | Posted by itchyp at 2025-05-22 12:14 PM

Itchypolyp can't get enough of the-------------'s lies.

#18 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-05-22 12:15 PM

25th Amendment. Fat Donnie Loser is clearly incapable of rational thought.

#19 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-05-22 12:19 PM

16.

You forgot white legislative mischief.

Nobody is begging you for shtt.
In fact in face of being unwanted or needed you insist on sanctions and other mischief to make yourself relevant.

You're only fooling whites. We know you.

#20 | Posted by fresno500 at 2025-05-22 02:31 PM

OK now debunk this one:
en.wikipedia.org
#11 | Posted by itchyp

That has already been debunked. That photo is from a protest, not actual graves.

#21 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-05-22 05:39 PM

"That has already been debunked. That photo is from a protest, not actual graves."

So thereal important lesson we get from this interaction is that Trump is a racist doesn't understand why the rest of us aren't too!?!

#22 | Posted by danni at 2025-05-22 10:20 PM

My comment upon first reading of this thread ...

The archive.is site so often cited, seems to have security issues.

My browser refuses to load it, and that is before the browser hands the site URL off to the security software I have installed. The browser seems to have an issue with it.

So, imo, archive.is, and links to it, are suspicious.

There is no way I would want to bypass the security of my browser to view that site.


#23 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-22 10:21 PM

@#22 ... So thereal important lesson we get from this interaction is that Trump is a racist doesn't understand why the rest of us aren't too!?! ...

Looks that way.

#24 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-22 10:27 PM

It's almost as if somebody doesn't want you to see victim pictures.

You have already been shown to be posting disinformation so no I am no looking at some random idiot's snuff porn.

There is no white genocide in South Africa and your snuff porn proves nothing. The place is a mess because of racism. The same racism we have here (only worse). We will all be lucky to survive it.

Trump's humiliating America in front of the world and you maga arse holes cheer his lies and hateful ignorance. There is something very wrong with all of you.

#25 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-05-22 11:33 PM

"Criminals need to be removed forever"

tRump is a criminal.

#26 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-05-23 02:31 AM

"Looks like someone is lying.
#7 | Posted by Foreigner
OK now debunk this one:
en.wikipedia.org
#11 | POSTED BY ITCHYP AT 2025-05-22 11:50 AM | REPLY | FLAG"

What's to debunk? The case to which you refer concerns the murder of 2 farmers in 1989 during the course of a violent robbery and I have no cause to believe that the facts as presented are inaccurate. I cannot say the same for Trump's comments.

I would point out that the allegation of genocide, requiring as it does the deliberate and systematic elimination of a specific group of people, is in no way supported by citing a robbery gone wrong.

Out of curiosity I looked at another of the links you posted, which took me to a page of graphic images of injured people, with absolutely no context. Trying to see if I could link it in anyway to South Africa, I followed another link which took me to a 4Chan page of women with extremely large breasts. Having extensively studied this page, I could find no link to South Africa.

That is some powerful evidence you are posting.

#27 | Posted by Foreigner at 2025-05-23 04:15 AM

WASHINGTON: The approval rating of South African President Cyril Ramaphosa is poised to skyrocket after he visited the Oval Office on Wednesday and was subjected to Donald J. Trump acting like a dick.

Ramaphosa, who was struggling with 35 percent approval before Trump's tantrum, should see that rating surge to 75 or higher, experts predict.

Moments after the meeting, Ramaphosa received congratulatory calls from Ukraine's Volodymyr Zelenskyy and Canada's Mark Carney, both of whom saw their fortunes soar thanks to Trump's ------- antics.

After the meeting, Trump took pride in standing up for "the horribly oppressed white South Africans," noting, "These poor farmers can't enjoy white supremacy in their own country, so they have to move here for it."

(The Borowitz Report)

#28 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-05-23 08:12 AM

Having extensively studied this page
#27 | Posted by Foreigner

LOL! I might have to study that page too.

#29 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-05-23 01:10 PM

Trump was lucky to escape that meeting alive!

I can't believe he allowed these smelly racist Africans into our White House.

#30 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-23 01:19 PM

That is some powerful evidence you are posting.
#27 | POSTED BY FOREIGNER

Like I said. Some random idiot's selection of snuff porn.

Thanks for taking the risk.

And he actually thinks it is evidence of genocide.

It's no wonder these morons hate the courts where you have to provide real evidence with documentation, trusted sources and methods and chains of custody etc.

#31 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-05-23 01:30 PM

FTA

"during a tense White House meeting that was reminiscent of his February ambush of Ukrainian leader Volodymyr Zelenskiy"

LMAO

Sounds like the author has been drinking the Haterade.

#32 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-05-23 03:03 PM

" Sounds like the author has been drinking the Haterade."

Sounds more like you missed the event.

Vance absolutely beclowned himself trying to pretend it wasn't a set-up.

#33 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-05-23 03:41 PM

Sounds like the author has been drinking the Haterade.

#32 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

Sounds like you are drinking Trumpy's golden elixir.

You should be outraged by the humiliation of YOUR country by YOUR president in YOUR name.

But you appear to be reveling in it.

You should seek professional help.

From a ----------.

#34 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-05-23 03:55 PM

Look at these idiot cultists bending over backwards to prove Trump's lie is actually the truth. And suddenly BOAZ just takes someone's story at face value without evidence backing it up? HAHAHA! "Trust me, bro! We whites are being genocided in SA!!"

Fnkcin' pathetic clowns, the lot of you.

Swallow it.

#35 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-05-23 04:00 PM

But the image isn't from South Africa - it's actually from a report about women being killed in the Democratic Republic of Congo.

That's not even close. It's many miles away. There are 5 countries between DRC and SA.

Trump is an blisteringly stupid liar and/or idiot and an embarrassment. There is no white farmer genocide going on in SA. Hell, I was there last year as a white guy and I travelled all over and had a wonderful time. Yes, there is crime. There's been a huge influx of people from other nations in Africa because of the instability and insanity of war and dictators.

The crime that white people in South Africa has to worry about is property crime, not being murdered. Same with the black population.

86 47!

#36 | Posted by YAV at 2025-05-23 04:15 PM

Trump is basing US policy on a conspiracy theory and then using images from a completely different scenario that occurred in a completely different country located nearly 2000 miles away and his supporters are just accepting it. Then they wonder why they get accused of being stupid and members of a cult.

#37 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-05-23 04:50 PM

Trump is a white supremacist

#38 | Posted by hamburglar at 2025-05-23 05:36 PM

South Africa is very corrupt these days. What with 60% of the land held by white folks and the government ran by black folks that could care less as long as they got 'theirs'. Yes, many farmers are killed but the vast majority of them are black folks not white Afrikaners. Maybe those white folks should have treated the black people better over the decades instead of forcing apartheid upon them? Naw, just blame those that rise up and treat you the same way you treated them. The place is a mess from what my international journalist buddy tells me when he went there to do work on Rhino poachers and those that fight back against them.

#39 | Posted by Wildman62 at 2025-05-23 08:12 PM

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