NATO, descended from the Achamenid and before that the Mede, absorb all weaker states as 'allies', regardless of the other nations' desire. In the process of absorbing former Scythian component Ukraine, the run up against a noncompliant immovable force, Russia.
"Oh great god-king NATO, please absorb us! We offer Earth and Water!
"Sorry my child, we cannot absorb you because you war Russia"
"But is your fight! You make us war Russia!"
"This is true, but the god-king decrees that you war Russia, not we."
"Give us armies of empire! Then we war Russia!"
"No. God-king has spoken. You war Russia alone. Take this broken spear as our symbol."

WTH dr you removed indents! How to dialogue with no indents!

'Macron, Go Fight Alone For Ukraine': Big Protest In Paris; NATO, EU Flag Ripped | Watch
A massive protest erupted in France's capital, Paris, over sending troops

NO NATO NO WAR.
They chant

Male logic- "Sorry Ukraine, we have to brother-war because you had coup and now invite NATO to assemble armies in your field"

Female logic- OMG poor Ukraine! They were attacked only because they're not NATO! Quick, sign us up right away! We won't even ask our citizens, just do it quick! Pleeease assemble armies in our fields!"

#23 | Posted by reinheitsgebot

Just observant and aware of how empires operate.
"We Have Met the Enemy and He Is Us" -Pogo Possum

no nato no war. know nato know war.
Public referenda now for confidence, in all nato allies.

#25 | Posted by reinheitsgebot
Enjoy your new preindustrial status, 'ally'.

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"Fascists "
#26 | Posted by Corky

Opinion discarded. Meaningless Buzzword.

"Fascists "

1. Hans Speidel, a Nazi commander of NATO forces in Central Europe from 1957"1963
2. Adolf Heusinger, a Nazi that served as Chairman of the NATO Military Committee from 1961 to 1964
3. Johannes Steinhoff, a Nazi that served as Chairman of the NATO Military Committee from 1971"1974
4. Johann von Kielmansegg, a Nazi that served as NATO's Commander in Chief from 1967-1968
5. Ernst Ferber, a Nazi that served as NATO's Commander in Chief from 1973-1975
6. Karl Schnell, a Nazi that served as NATO's Commander in Chief from 1975-1977
7. Franz Joseph Schulze, a Nazi that served as NATO's Commander in Chief from 1977-1979
8. Ferdinand von Senger und Etterlin, a Nazi that served as NATO's Commander in Chief from 1979-1983

retort to Trump being a Fascist.

? Thread's not about Trump.

Whataboutism

Meaningless Buzzword. Opinion discarded.

whataboutism
/(h)w'd'boudiz'm/

#43 | Posted by Corky

I know what it means, it's still a buzzword.

Tomorrow you will be back to tell me that "Putin's a Nazi", even after you know that NATO is the side with the Nazi heritage. That would be 'gaslighting', if I understand my modern propaganda buzzwords.

The most famous of them was Adolf Heusinger, chief of the Operationsabteilung from 1940-1944.

He was actually Hitler's chief of staff and helped plan the Nazi's invasions of Poland, Norway, Denmark, and France. He was promoted to colonel on August 1, 1940 and became chief of the Operationsabteilung in October 1940, making him number three in the Army planning hierarchy.

After the war, this German war criminal, the man who helped Hitler plan and execute his invasion of neighboring countries which directly led to the deaths of millions of people, was not even put on trial, quite contrary he was allowed to take over the newly established West German army, the "Bundeswehr".

In 1961, Heusinger was made the Chairman of the NATO Military Committee (essentially he was NATO's chief of staff). He served in that capacity until 1964.

General Hans Speidel, a Nazi general who was Erwin Rommel's chief of staff during WWII.

After the war he served in the Western German army and became the Supreme Commander of NATO's ground forces in Central Europe from 1957-1963.

Johannes Steinhoff, Luftwaffe fighter pilot during WWII and recipient of the Knights Cross of the Iron across (the Nazi military's highest award), was Chairman of the NATO Military Committee 1971"1974 (among other NATO positions beforehand).

Johann von Kielmansegg (pictured left in first image), General Staff officer to the High Command of the Wehrmacht 1942-1944, was NATO's Commander in Chief of Allied Forces Central Europe 1967-1968.

Ernst Ferber, a Major in the Wehrmacht and group leader of the organizational department of the Supreme Command of the Army (Wehrmacht) from 1943-1945 and recipient of the Iron Cross 1st Class, was NATO's Commander in Chief of Allied Forces Central Europe from 1973-1975.

Karl Schnell, battery chief in the Western campaign in 1940/later First General Staff Officer of the LXXVI Panzer Corps in 1944 and recipient of the Iron Cross 2nd Class, was NATO's Commander in Chief of Allied Forces Central Europe from 1975-1977.

Franz Joseph Schulze, a Lieutenant in the reserve and Chief of the 3rd Battery of the Flak Storm Regiment 241 and recipient of the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross in 1944, was NATO's Commander in Chief of Allied Forces Central Europe from 1977-1979.

Ferdinand von Senger und Etterlin; Lieutenant of 24th Panzer Division in the German 6th Army, participant in the Battle of Stalingrad, adjutant to Army High Command, and recipient of the German Cross in gold, was NATO's Commander in Chief of Allied Forces Central Europe 1979-1983.

"Putin threatened"
Not. He warned of where we were heading with further escalation.

#74 | Posted by donnerboy

"
Moldova

Not Moldavia. Another Ukrainian spelling revision?
It's been said that all Ukrainians revert to Russian when they step on a Lego in the dark.
Zelenskyiye's first language was Russian.

These language 'corrections' remind me of the pronoun wars.
"It's MA'AM!!"

#77 | Posted by rstybeach11
there's them contortions again

#74 | Posted by donnerboy

stroke test. quick. I love you.

Oh-

#71 | Posted by danni
stroke test. quick. I love you.

db say (sic) next time

...it makes a difference when we're trying to get ems to fl vs cali