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Sunday, April 07, 2024

When Michael McClanahan was growing up, his grandmother would tell him stories about what it was like to vote during the pre-Civil Rights era in their small town in northwest Louisiana.

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If your policies don't appeal to enough voters, just stop them from voting.

#1 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-04-07 05:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

And If your policies appeal to enough newcomers, just let them vote.

#2 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-07 06:09 PM | Reply

And If your policies appeal to enough newcomers, just let them vote.

#2 | Posted by oneironaut

Careful you might get LUMPED in with the trump cult morons who think illegal immigrants can vote.

#3 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-04-07 06:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Every time some white liberal journalist writes this kind of crap, they assume black people are stupid and don't know how to vote without their help.

Liberal whites are the true racists, and have been since they founded the KKK.

#4 | Posted by CommonCents816 at 2024-04-07 09:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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Yeah... they were smart enough to have Gen Nathan Bedford Forrest, late of the Confederate Army, as their First Grand Wizard of the KKK.

The founders 150 years ago may have been Dixie Democrats, but you seem to have missed the part where the Democrats left the South behind over racism 6 decades ago, and your Republican friends now gleefully own them.

Lock, stock, and white supremacist Nazi barrel.

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2024-04-07 09:52 PM | Reply

How many Dixiecrats actually switched political parties, Corky?

#6 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-07 10:00 PM | Reply

Is your search engine dead, Painless, or are you just trolling again?

The GOP was happy to have the racist South... and now they have Blue states supporting them economically.

Win-win.

#7 | Posted by Corky at 2024-04-07 10:02 PM | Reply

Who came up with the southern strategy, Patricide Jeff ?

#8 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-04-07 10:04 PM | Reply

You both avoided the question.

#9 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-07 10:06 PM | Reply

The loaded question was loaded... also a logical fallacy.

Try again.

#10 | Posted by Corky at 2024-04-07 10:07 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

It's a historical question and nothing more.

Fact is, blacks strongly prefer Democrats over Republicans and the voting numbers are absurd.

With that demographic clearly Dems are doing it WAY better than the GOP.

#11 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-07 10:19 PM | Reply

"How many Dixiecrats actually switched political parties"

Almost all of them.

Unless your theory is all the Democrats migrated away, and were 100% replaced with racists crackers.

Is that your theory? Because mine is after LBJ signed the civil rights act, Dixiecrats decided Democrats weren't racist enough for them.

#12 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-04-07 10:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Yes, Florida, GA, MS, AL, TX, AR, OK, SC all full of Democrats, Democrats run those states, Republicans in no way embrace white nationalism, just look at the rainbow coalition that is the Republican Party spanning from Parchment to Eggshell to Ivory to Vanilla to Baby Powder.

When Republicans Paint with All the Colors of Their Wind their canvas is indistinguishable from one never touched by a brush.

#13 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-07 10:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"How many Dixiecrats actually switched political parties"

Almost all of them."

Okay. Then surely you can name names. I'll even help you - Strom Thurmond. Who else?

" Because mine is after LBJ signed the civil rights act, Dixiecrats decided Democrats weren't racist enough for them."

A higher percentage of Republicans voted for it than Democrats.

#14 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-07 10:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"South Tightens Key Voting Laws"

No doubt to make it harder for LEGAL voters to cast a LEGAL vote.

Patriots to themselves, of course.

#15 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-04-07 10:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

With that demographic clearly Dems are doing it WAY better than the GOP.

#11 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

By "it" you mean governing in such a way as to serve their interests.

#16 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-07 10:26 PM | Reply

A higher percentage of Republicans voted for it than Democrats.

#14 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Those republicans would now be voting democratic, see how that works?

You would be considering them communists

Cause you're not very bright.

#17 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-07 10:26 PM | Reply

" surely you can name names"

Who needs names, when the numbers speak for themselves?

Why did you avoid the salient question? Did the Dem supporters migrate away, or change loyalties?

Simple question, even though the answer undermines your theory.

#18 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-04-07 10:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Remember there is nothing racist about insisting in person voting, with one undermanned polling station to serve 10's of thousands of voters and requiring IDs which doesn't add minutes to each voters time voting, resulting in black people having to stand in line for much longer to cast their ballot.

Nothing remotely racist about that.

And you can't give water to people standing in line for hours either!

#19 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-07 10:29 PM | Reply

" No doubt to make it harder for LEGAL voters to cast a LEGAL vote.

Do ho have specific provisions you oppose?

Georgia had record turnout in the 2022 midterm and I haven't been able to find minorities complaining about the process in Georgia.

#20 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-07 10:29 PM | Reply

" A higher percentage of Republicans voted for it than Democrats."

BFD. That has nothing to do with your claim. You're avoiding the question.

Migration, or loyalties?

#21 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-04-07 10:30 PM | Reply

Or you can do it the Florida way disenfranchise 1/3 of black men even though the state overwhelmingly voted to reinstate their voting rights.

So, arrest them for petty crime, make it a felony, send them to jail for 6 months, charge them thousands of dollars to keep them incarcerated and not allow them to vote when their time is served cause they owe the state thousands in fees.

But republicans aren't racist --------.

#22 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-07 10:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" Do you have specific provisions you oppose?"

I believe an additional barrier to voting, is an additional barrier to voting.

You want people to believe that an additional barrier to voting isn't an additional barrier to voting. It's one of the two central lies from voter suppressionists.

The other big lie is if they suppress 10,000 votes, and people get wind of it and 20,000 extra show up, that no voters were disenfranchised, when in fact 10,000 voters were disenfranchised.

#23 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-04-07 10:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

- A higher percentage of Republicans voted for it than Democrats.

lmao! you just showed why it was, in your minuscule mind at least, a loaded question.

So you could trot out that antiquated and thoroughly debunked meme.

The primary split over the Civil Rights Act was not between Democrats and Republicans, but between the South and the rest of the US.

While the majority of Republicans voted in favor of the act, 100% of Southern Republicans and over 90% of Southern Democrats voted against it (Civil Rights Act of 1964).

Of course, the number of Southern Republican congressmen at time though was only 10 representative and 1 senator.

And what's happened since makes your numerical nonsense completely laughable.

#24 | Posted by Corky at 2024-04-07 10:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Do ho have specific provisions you oppose?"

Let's start with defying the SC

www.brennancenter.org

#25 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-07 10:34 PM | Reply

Texas, Mississippi and Alabama have all passed laws since the 2020 election reining in what they call harvesting absentee ballots. The term generally refers to someone collecting absentee ballots for other voters, a practice that is common among voter mobilization efforts.

The new laws place restrictions on who can witness a person signing their absentee ballot, how many ballots a single person can witness, and who can return those ballots on behalf of the voters. Civil rights groups argue that this will disenfranchise voters who rely on help from strangers and friends to cast their ballots.

According to Jeff this is not an additional burden for voters

#26 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-07 10:37 PM | Reply

Who do you think that will impact more of? Republicans or Democrats?

#27 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-07 10:37 PM | Reply

Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey, a Republican, signed a law in March that made it illegal to turn in someone else's absentee ballot, and made it a felony to give or receive payment to collect others' absentee ballots.

Dick Face doesn't think this will hinder voting.

Who do you think that will impact more of? Republicans or Democrats?

#28 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-07 10:38 PM | Reply

Alabama is one of only four states that doesn't allow in-person early voting. And absentee ballots are more often used by Black voters, data from Allen's office shows. In the five counties that saw the highest proportion of absentee voting in 2022, the populations were between 70% and 81% Black.

Dick Face doesn't think this will hinder voting.
Who do you think that will impact more of? Republicans or Democrats?

#29 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-07 10:40 PM | Reply

Mississippi also does not offer in-person early voting. That means the only alternative to showing up to a polling place on Nov. 5 is to make a plan in advance to vote absentee.

"The states aren't making it easier to vote," said Caren Short, director of legal and research for the League of Women Voters. "They are not helping voters navigate the voting process, and so that that leaves groups like the League, groups like the NAACP, to help voters navigate the process. And then when we are successful at doing so, the lawmakers pass laws that criminalize the very work that we're doing."

Dick Face doesn't think this will hinder voting.
Who do you think that will impact more of? Republicans or Democrats?

#30 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-07 10:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

As part of a sweeping election integrity bill in 2021, Texas created a felony offense for collecting mail-in ballots in exchange for benefits, such as payment or a job offer. Gov. Greg Abbott said upon signing the bill that it "ensures trust and confidence in our elections system " and most importantly, it makes it easier to vote and harder to cheat."

Gary Bledsoe, a lawyer who heads the Texas NAACP, said the law has had a chilling effect on get-out-the-vote efforts. "If you say the wrong thing to a voter when you knock on the door, you've committed a crime, a serious crime," he said. "It's meant to intimidate people."

Richard Visage doesn't think this will hinder voting.
Who do you think that will impact more of? Republicans or Democrats?

#31 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-07 10:42 PM | Reply

Arkansas updated its voter identification law in 2021. Previously, when voters could not provide state-issued photo identification, they could sign an affidavit to swear their identity. Now they have to cast a provisional ballot and return by the following Monday with the appropriate ID for the vote to count

Rick Mug doesn't think this will hinder voting.
Who do you think that will impact more of? Republicans or Democrats?

#32 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-07 10:45 PM | Reply

Corky talks about Dixie Democrats, like Senator Robert Byrd perhaps? A man President Biden eulogized while part of President Obama's administration.

A white liberal senator President Biden called a mentor he was proud to have worked with. The same white liberal senator recruited hundreds of other white liberals into the KKK.

White liberals continue to utilize racism constantly, but now they limit it to when a black person steps outside of their way of thinking.

#33 | Posted by CommonCents816 at 2024-04-07 10:45 PM | Reply

A sweeping election law Georgia passed in 2021 put stricter identification requirements on mail-in ballots. Instead of including their signatures, voters need to provide a drivers license number, a partial Social Security number, or a copy of their photo identification. It's one of the states that will decide the 2024 presidential race.

Ol Dickie Countenance doesn't think this will hinder voting.
Who do you think that will impact more of? Republicans or Democrats?

Just an example of how this will hurt Dems. African Americans are more likely to vote Dem, AA are more likely to vote by mail. Even without malfeasance a percentage of voters will mess up their votes due to the new requirements. Thus a percentage of the votes won't be counted.

This is the intention, to say nothing of adding burdens to the voter

#34 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-07 10:48 PM | Reply

Pamela Phoenix, a Democrat who has worked polls in Tyler, Texas, pointed to people who come in and say their purses were snatched shortly before the election. "So they don't have a drivers license. They don't even have what it takes to go to the DMV and get a new drivers license."

She added, "We have individuals whose houses have been totaled in fires so they don't have drivers licenses, passports, proof of utilities, none of that."

Rasby Mason, a clergy leader in Shreveport, Louisiana, said it's common for Black residents in rural parts of the South to never get driver's licenses. Others were born outside of a hospital setting and weren't issued proper identification.

The point is to attack the margins.

Ricardo Rostro doesn't think this will hinder voting.
Who do you think that will impact more of? Republicans or Democrats?

#35 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-07 10:50 PM | Reply

#33

Your lame logical fallacy Whataboutism is a day late and a million dollars short.

How many whiny, half ass sock puppets is this for you now?

I mean, are we talking dozens?

#36 | Posted by Corky at 2024-04-07 10:56 PM | Reply

This is the intention, to say nothing of adding burdens to the voter
#34 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

I agree we don't need no barrier to vote, let everyone vote regardless of citizenship proof or not.

Glad we are on the same page.

#37 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-07 10:57 PM | Reply

Corky - Nice deflection, safe and sound here on Drudge with the other liberal retreads.

Biden eulogized a senior leader of the KKK and called him a mentor. That's your preferred leader.

You're a supporter of the KKK.

#38 | Posted by CommonCents816 at 2024-04-07 11:03 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

The-------------------'s father was a klansman who taught his kid-diddling crotch fruit to never rent to black folks.

#39 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-04-07 11:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" I believe an additional barrier to voting, is an additional barrier to voting." -Danforth

Do you have any examples? The only southern state that made voting law changes since 2020 that I followed closely is Georgia. I was astonished by all of the lies about the law especially coming from mainstream media outlets. Perhaps other southern states passed more draconian changes. I'm not trying to argue with you. I'm trying to have a discussion.

#40 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-07 11:11 PM | Reply

"Do you have any examples?"

Sure. Every additional barrier to voting.

But go on tell us again how an additional barrier to voting won't be an additional barrier to voting.

That's your central tenant, right?

#41 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-04-08 02:52 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What barriers?

Citizenship?

#42 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-08 11:05 AM | Reply

- You're a supporter of the KKK.

#38 | POSTED by NOCENTS

Your maths are sad and want a nap now.

#43 | Posted by Corky at 2024-04-08 11:29 AM | Reply

What barriers?
Citizenship?

#42 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

I guess when you are unemployed like Bellringer, you don't see barriers.

But if they restrict mail in voting and only allow in person voting on November 5, people who actually have jobs have a tough time making it to the polls. Especially in states that force urban voters (mostly Dems) to stand in line 4-12 hours to vote.

Jeff, do you ever read any of the stories?

#44 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-04-08 11:35 AM | Reply

"the Democrats left the South behind over racism 6 decades ago,"

Which means those democrats are all dead.

#45 | Posted by eberly at 2024-04-08 11:41 AM | Reply

#44. I'm aware of the narratives.

In person voting is more secure than mail in voting. I'm not opposed to mail in voting, just stating what should be an obvious fact.

#46 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-08 12:08 PM | Reply

Oh and christofascists threatening to jail them for helping their patients.

#47 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-04-08 12:54 PM | Reply

wrong thread

#48 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-04-08 12:55 PM | Reply

In person voting is more secure than mail in voting. I'm not opposed to mail in voting, just stating what should be an obvious fact.

#46 | Posted by BellRinger

They're both secure, as evidenced by the fact that all the kings horses and all the kings men couldn't find any evidence of fraud.

The only reason to change a system that works is to make to not work as well for your own benefit.

#49 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-04-08 12:57 PM | Reply

"In person voting is more secure than mail in voting."

Not to any point where fraud exceeds inclusion.

Simple question: Should it be made EASIER, or HARDER, for a legal voter to cast a legal vote?

Because suppression has nothing to do with integrity.

#50 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-04-08 01:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

They're both secure

Exactly.

#51 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-04-08 01:42 PM | Reply

"In person voting is more secure than mail in voting."

Posted with zero facts or research to support it.

Trumpers are the stupidest people.

#52 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-04-08 01:42 PM | Reply

"In person voting is more secure than mail in voting."

You misspelled exclusive.

#53 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-04-08 04:05 PM | Reply

Any examples?

#54 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-08 05:07 PM | Reply

Any examples?

#54 | Posted by BellRinger

The party that claims we need to change the way we vote because it's not secure enough needs to provide examples to support their claim. But they have none.

#55 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-04-08 05:25 PM | Reply

The party that claims we need to change the way we vote because it's not secure enough

At least Bellringer doesn't claim mail in voting is not secure.

#56 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-04-08 05:28 PM | Reply

Any examples?
#54 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Trolling at its finest.

Everyone! Hurry and find BellRinger examples so he can ignore them.

#57 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-04-08 05:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Any examples?"

Yeah, a half-dozen upthread you've ignored.

Just like you won't admit the Southern Democrats didn't migrate away from where they lived; they switched loyalties over time to the more racist party.

#58 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-04-08 07:09 PM | Reply

Using 2020 as the baseline is dishonest.

#59 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-08 07:14 PM | Reply

" Just like you won't admit the Southern Democrats didn't migrate away from where they lived"

What I asked was how many elected Democrats actually switched parties.

#60 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-08 07:15 PM | Reply

is your google broken?

#61 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-04-08 07:21 PM | Reply

Prior to the 1950s, nearly 80% of white adults in the 11 states of the former Confederacy identified as Democrats, compared to only about 40% of white adults in other parts of the country.

However, over time, white Southerners began to leave the Democratic Party and join the Republican Party, with the percentage of white Southerners identifying as Democrats dropping to around 30% by the early 2000s.

This shift is attributed primarily to "racially conservative" attitudes among white Southerners, rather than just the Democratic Party's support for civil rights legislation in the 1960s.

More can be found here: en.wikipedia.org

#62 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2024-04-08 07:25 PM | Reply

Using 2020 as the baseline is dishonest.

#59 | Posted by BellRinger

Pick a year. When did voter fraud have any significant impact on an election?

#63 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-04-08 07:27 PM | Reply

Ballwasher the clown.

#64 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-04-08 08:16 PM | Reply

#63. That we know of - 1960.

#65 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-08 09:19 PM | Reply

What was the voter fraud in 1960?

Are you sure you're not thinking of election fraud?

#66 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-08 09:21 PM | Reply

I've been told that 2000, 2004 and 2016 were all fraudulent.

#67 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-08 09:21 PM | Reply

In person and mail in ballots are both secure, so it will all work out.

#68 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-04-08 09:24 PM | Reply

I've been told that 2000, 2004 and 2016 were all fraudulent.
#67 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

You've been told Jan 6 was both a spontaneous protest and a false flag event.

#69 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-08 09:25 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Or you can do it the Florida way disenfranchise 1/3 of black men even though the state overwhelmingly voted to reinstate their voting rights. So, arrest them for petty crime, make it a felony, send them to jail for 6 months, charge them thousands of dollars to keep them incarcerated and not allow them to vote when their time is served cause they owe the state thousands in fees.

But republicans aren't racist --------.

#22 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-07 10:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

Yep, thats the way it works, its an election year. So in June, the Republicans throw a BBQ, invite all the cops, even the Black ones. And then they tell us, Hey Y'all, round up 1/3 of the Black men in town, arrest them for petty crimes and then charge them with felonies. And then the Prosecutors, many of whom are also Black, they say, Sure! Sounds like a great idea! Lets do it! And to the Judges, they say , "Your Honor, make sure to sentence them all to six months so they will be tied up in November and can't vote" and the Judge says Sure, sounds like a great idea, but what about the jury? And then the cops say, "We got this, and just bring lotsa donuts to keep the jurors happy. Then Voila, no Black voters come Novemner. Dang Truthhurts, you have it all figured out!

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#70 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-04-09 02:46 AM | Reply

#70 That's some crazy ass denial of systemic racism!

You spent two paragraphs coming up with that, why?

Florida prisons were born of racism, everyone should know that.

White supremacist prison guards work with impunity in Fla.
apnews.com

#71 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-09 03:53 AM | Reply

"And then they tell us, Hey Y'all, round up 1/3 of the Black men in town, arrest them for petty crimes and then charge them with felonies."

Black people 5 times more likely to be arrested than whites, according to new analysis

thehill.com

This trend has continued into 2020 and during the coronavirus pandemic, according to ProPublica, which reported on May 8 that black people in three of Ohio's most populous jurisdictions were at least four times as likely to be charged with violating the state's stay-at-home order as white people.

#72 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-09 04:01 AM | Reply

"and the Judge says Sure, sounds like a great idea, but what about the jury?"

Imaginative.

In reality criminal proceedings go before a jury almost never.

Out of every 100 criminal filings in Florida, only three will actually go to trial. In the past year, 96.7% of trial cases in Florida were settled before going to trial " generally through a plea deal, though cases are sometimes also dismissed or transferred.
lawsuit.org

#73 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-09 04:07 AM | Reply

" I've been told that 2000, 2004 and 2016 were all fraudulent."

You've been told drag queen = groomer, Joe Biden is a crook, and Russia Russia Russia was a hoax.

You're the perfect gullible mark.

#74 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-04-09 05:10 AM | Reply

I've been told that 2000, 2004 and 2016 were all fraudulent.

#67 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

You've been told there was voter suppression by making urban voters stand in line for 4-12 hours to vote.

And you responded with, "It's okay because many are black and voting for Democrats."

#75 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-04-09 10:18 AM | Reply

I've been told that 2000, 2004 and 2016 were all fraudulent.

Not 2020? I know a guy who has been whining about that one for three years.

#76 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-04-09 10:29 AM | Reply

I've been told that 2000, 2004 and 2016 were all fraudulent.

#67 | Posted by BellRinger

You heard of fraud in the voting process in those elections? Please provide links.

#77 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-04-09 01:06 PM | Reply

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