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Wednesday, May 29, 2024

Young voters overwhelmingly believe that almost all politicians are corrupt and that the country will end up worse off than when they were born, according to new polling from Democratic firm Blueprint obtained exclusively by Semafor.

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Huh, thought that was Russia.

#1 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-05-29 05:07 PM | Reply

I'm old and I see the same thing. This isn't about youth.

It's about militarism and endless war.

It's about the concentration of wealth by greedy --------. It's about these same -------- buying policy while everyone else gets ignored.

It's about the loss of community and atomization of the individual.

It's about the degradation of the living Earth for the profit of a few individuals without morals or sense.

This is why I'm glad I'm old.

The young aren't wrong and they have to live with the consequences of this Swinishness.

Eating the future doesn't make for a hopeful youth.

#2 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-05-29 05:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Yep, it's Russia.

#3 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-05-29 05:18 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"They see a dying empire led by bad people."

The bad people are the ones who made Corporate Personhood legal over the last 5 decades, and it's the Elitists' tools that we vote for.

In 50 years the only thing that's changed is that Oligarchs are admired now.

This is the coming of the Second Gilded Age, and until we have another TR and FDR willing to speak directly for the People rather than for the Elites, then we are headed for the far right authoritarian populists supported by the "Industrialists", and into the Trump Reich.

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2024-05-29 05:31 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Huh, thought that was Russia.

#1 | POSTED BY LEGALLYYOURDEAD

When I saw the headline I was thinking the British Empire during colonial times.

Young people either need to read more history or get out of America and see what the rest of the world has to deal with.

Though having said that this WILL be the strangest and probably most important election of this generation.

I just hope they vote.

#5 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-05-30 12:42 AM | Reply

The Boomer Gen did there absolute best (worst)
to suck all of the marrow from the skeleton of
America, before they go off and die.

The America of my youth (I think back to the Bicentennial in 1976)
bears almost zero resemblance to the shell of America today.

In 1976 All Americans were proud we had reached the Bicentennial.
Republicans stood next to Democrats, stood next to women, stood next to
men of all colors and races. And this was in conservative Nebraska.

We have allowed ourselves to be pitted against one another and pulled apart
by political television, by increasingly partisan politics, and by the
rich, which foisted it all upon us, so they could rob the bank and bankrupt
the country.

2 events I believe were central to America heading into such a death spiral.

1. When Rupert Murdoch convinced Ronny Reagan to change the television
broadcast rules in the 1980's, so that 'news stations' no longer had to
meet certain 'truthfulness requirements' and could start churning out
partisan spin, by the boatload. And thus was born Fox News and a hundred
imitators.

2. Citizen's United. When the SCOTUS basically sanctioned the wealth takeover
of free speech in the country, and in buying elections. All of this favored
whatever party catered the most to the rich, and accelerated our political
race to the bottom, with the GOP proving they were the most craven, and would
do anything for the rich to remain in power.

Throw in Dick Cheney famously saying 'Deficits didn't matter' and the multiple
enormous tax cuts by the GOP for the rich (5 tax cut for the wealthiest since Reagan)
and you have the general outlines of the disaster as its unfolded.

When America becomes a corpse, and the walls finally cave in, both sides will be at fault,
but the GOP will have the Lion's Share of the blame, as it was they that instituted the
most harmful changes to America, which lead to this spiralling down.

#6 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-05-30 07:02 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#6, I agree 100%.

#7 | Posted by bat4255 at 2024-05-30 07:08 AM | Reply

...glad I'm old.
#2 | Posted by Effeteposer

We have to be the only society to have this attitude instead of a "it's my duty to leave things better for my descendants" attitude. I hear so often, "it doesn't matter that things are f-cked up, I'll be dead."
How's that working out for us?

#8 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2024-05-30 07:43 AM | Reply

And the difference to me is, both sides are corrupt and pander for votes. The difference being that when Dems pander, folks get health care and food stamps. When Pubs pander, we get dead brown people and theocracy.

#9 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2024-05-30 07:45 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Oh look the old people found when American Was Great, 1976 lol.

Back when 23.7% of the population had a degree, 28 million people VS 37% that have one now to the tune of 78 million and they're all on various forms of social media and can communicate more easily than ever before.

This is what happens when people get post-high school educations. In kindergarten through high school, the US is the good guy. Once you get an education with a completely different sent of biases in College, the US isn't the good guy anymore. It's kinda-sorta-sometimes-good, but often a brutal, colonial power.

#10 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-05-30 08:22 AM | Reply

And can be propagandized more easily than ever before.

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-05-30 08:29 AM | Reply

"Oh look the old people found when American Was Great, 1976 lol."

That's when one of the greatest things about America -- broad prosperity -- was sacrificed, to make the rich richer.

Since 1975, practically all the gains in household income have gone to the top 20% of households.

#12 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-05-30 08:34 AM | Reply

Poverty was higher in 1976 than it is now.

#13 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-05-30 10:07 AM | Reply

and the standard of living was much lower.

#14 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-05-30 10:07 AM | Reply

Yeah...did u even read what I wrote Snoof?
Do I sound happy by the changes which have
taken place since then?

#15 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-05-30 10:07 AM | Reply

Snoofy was agreeing with you. American Was Great until 1976. Then it's all downhill.

#16 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-05-30 10:11 AM | Reply

It has been all down hill since then. Unfortunately...

#17 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-05-30 11:13 AM | Reply

I love reading about, studying, and researching history. I recall a time while reading about various empires in their prime and all the great times that were had blah blah. Then came the fall and myriads of reasons for the fall. Looking back the falls seemed quick and decisive... but in reality, they just nickeled and dimed like now.

I recall wishing I could live in a time when my homeland was the center of the human universe... Then I realized that the crapshoot of life placed me in one and I got to live while it was/is peaking and all the wonders to behold.

I don't expect it to last forever... after all... we aren't China... which has placed pretty much at the top of the heap since civilization dawned there. It's had a couple of bad centuries as of late.

It's silly to be so full of ourselves after a few decades of fancy pantsing around the globe. We had to vaporize some people to get there.

Sooooo is the threat of "mutual destruction" a capitalist venture or commie thing?

#18 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2024-05-30 02:01 PM | Reply

Timing is everything. Unfortunately, the lotto of 'our time' is up to chance.
All we can do is make the best of what we are given, and in what we can earn.

And if all goes to hell in America, which again, is a matter of 'when it does',
I can always bugger off to Canada, Ireland, Mexico, or SE Asia like the host of
other Ex-pats b4 me.

The ones who I feel sorry for, are the poor. They are stuck with whatever comes.

#19 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-05-30 02:22 PM | Reply

There's more college graduates by % and massively by numbers. Poverty is lower now than then. The standard of living is higher, life expectancy is 13 years longer now, you have instant access to unlimited information, homes are 40% bigger, the war on weed was lost and now we have legalization in most places, the US military is so far ahead of any peer adversary in capability they call even the top militaries "near peer", because we'd stomp them.

Some of you are depression baskets that live for nostalgia, but now is empirically better than then. 1976 is literally called the Post-Civil-Rights-Era, because before that a lot less people had them.

#20 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-05-30 03:39 PM | Reply

1976 kicks off the new era, because before that was one much worse for civil rights.

#21 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-05-30 03:40 PM | Reply

"The ones who I feel sorry for, are the poor. They are stuck with whatever comes."

I'm sorry? What?

I separated from the US Navy as an E-4 in 198. My last paycheck in the service was ~$750 ($1442/2024$) per month. I got a job installing cabinets right out of the military making $1k per month ($1923/2024$), and I thought I was rich as ----.

Was I poor?

I guess I must have been. Right now, that wouldn't even come close to covering my monthly rent.

#22 | Posted by madbomber at 2024-05-30 03:58 PM | Reply

But there is no reason for you to feel sorry for me.

#23 | Posted by madbomber at 2024-05-30 03:59 PM | Reply

Hey Madbomber, why don't you tell me how I feel?
Jerk. Typical GOP, playing the victim again...
Hey Bomber, it's not 'all about you'. I was speaking
of the poor in general, whether or not you qualify is
your thing. My point was, the rich and affluent are mobile.
They can escape the 'collapse of nations' or wars. The poor
cannot. They have far less options when a nation tanks.

And Sitz, sure there are some good things, several
things that are better in America than 'back in the day'.
But what I was referring to was the 'Arc that American Politics
has taken over the last half century', and that has definitely
been towards the more partisan, the more contentious, and the more
mean spirited. America has been divided, rent apart, like never before in
my life. And it didn't used to be that way. Once upon a time, back in
the 70's, pre-Reagan, we still all identified as Americans. And those
across the political isle were not seen as 'the enemy'.

#24 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-05-31 06:50 AM | Reply

Pre-Civil-Rights Era was better. "Everybody identified as Americans". MMMmmmkkkkay.

How are you not an old, white, Republican? lol.

#25 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-05-31 07:38 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The one constant is old people always think it was better when they were young and lacked perspective, experience and responsibility.
Pre-Raygun, huh. That was the good times? Except for Nixon. And that day in Dallas. Vietnam. The Civil War. Jim Crow.
Politics was cleaner and more polite way back when, too. Burr and Hamilton could settle their disputes over drinks and a game of chess. When John Adams growled, "Jefferson lives" he was actually very happy his old buddy was enjoying his golden years in Boca with Sally Hemings.

#26 | Posted by BluSky at 2024-05-31 11:49 AM | Reply

Huh, thought that was Russia.

#1 | POSTED BY LEGALLYGIVESMEHEAD

And you thought that because you're ------- retarded.

#27 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-05-31 03:00 PM | Reply

"Hey Madbomber, why don't you tell me how I feel? Jerk. Typical GOP, playing the victim again...Hey Bomber, it's not 'all about you'. I was speaking of the poor in general, whether or not you qualify is your thing."

But sir, I was poor. before I wasn't.

Did you know any rich college kids? I didn't. Hell, I was rich compared to most of my peers, for no other reason than I had the GI Bill and an ROTC scholarship.

Being poor is normal. It's where we all start. But if we stay poor, it's because we are ------- up.

#28 | Posted by madbomber at 2024-05-31 03:42 PM | Reply

"Being poor is normal. It's where we all start."

Bill Gates did not start poor, Elon Musk did not start poor.

#29 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-05-31 03:45 PM | Reply

"The one constant is old people always think it was better when they were young and lacked perspective, experience and responsibility."

Yeah. I don't know that, at 20, I would have been wearing a keffiyeh and calling for the extirpation of Jews in the levant.

Just sayin.

#30 | Posted by madbomber at 2024-05-31 03:47 PM | Reply

"Bill Gates did not start poor, Elon Musk did not start poor."

Really?

They were born billionaires?

#31 | Posted by madbomber at 2024-05-31 03:47 PM | Reply

Did you know any rich college kids?

Yea. Lots of them. Guess that's the privilege of going to a good college.

I was poor.

Of course you were, that's why you joined the military.

Rich kids don't tend to serve.

Poor people who are smart enough to think about their long term future tend to.

It's also why the republicans are desperate to destroy public education and the economy, so they can force more people into the military.

We need fresh bodies to throw into war.

#32 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-05-31 03:49 PM | Reply

They were born billionaires?
#31 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

Close enough.

Billionaires didn't exist when they were born.

#33 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-05-31 03:49 PM | Reply

#31

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#34 | Posted by Corky at 2024-05-31 04:02 PM | Reply

#5. I've travelled to 33 countries most all of them for work, but got to see quite a bit of them. I've been in all 50 states. I can conclusively say my observations have clearly shown me that America is severely behind the rest of the world in almost all of Western Europe.

I dare you to eat produce in France in a nice fresh salad and tell me it isn't better than ANY vegetable grown here.

They are less stressed because they don't have the desire to produce endless profit for everyone. They demand and very extensive vacation time, work place safety, and other perks, and get them.

Every place has its problems, but if you think a blanket "Merica r teh awesomest!!!" is called for, you haven't been paying attention.

#35 | Posted by ABH at 2024-05-31 04:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

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