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The U.S. Supreme Court's decision to give cities broader latitude to punish people for sleeping in public when they have no other options will likely result in municipalities taking more aggressive action to remove encampments, including throwing away more of homeless people's property, advocates and legal experts said.

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Biden's fault

#1 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-06-29 09:42 PM | Reply

Criminalizing existing.

#2 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2024-06-30 12:58 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Trump appointed these monsters with the sight of them as an important reason to ctiminalize sleeping in public places; in his mind wealthy people should never have to see the results of their greed.

#3 | Posted by danni at 2024-06-30 06:01 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Empathy never found much of a home in the Republican Party. Among today's MAGAts? Sorry, no room at the inn.

#4 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-06-30 06:29 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Most amazing hypocrisy is that most Repyblicans call thenselves Christians. WWJD about homeless people?

#5 | Posted by danni at 2024-06-30 07:42 AM | Reply

A tent camp formed in my nearby small town. I didn't mind at first, but now we have tatted tweakers walking in the middle of the street, riding childs' size bicycles all over the place looking for anything at all to steal. The best thing for us would be to dump them at a border and let them sneak across to claim refugee status somewhere else.

#6 | Posted by look_inward at 2024-06-30 09:33 AM | Reply

WWJD about homeless people?

#5 | Posted by danni

That depends. If they were Gentiles, He'd probably say something about giving bread to dogs.

#7 | Posted by look_inward at 2024-06-30 09:36 AM | Reply

Communities have a responsibility to their citizens to keep the streets clean and safe. This ruling allows them to do that, or not, if they so choose.

#8 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-06-30 09:42 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

call thenselves Christians

Christians are good people.

They just arent giving their money when you are looking or to do it for clicks.

Plus, here lately, there's just no more money to give.

Imagine if the homeless took care of themselves so society wouldnt have to.

#9 | Posted by boaz at 2024-06-30 05:09 PM | Reply

Imagine if the homeless took care of themselves so society wouldnt have to.

POSTED BY BOAZ AT 2024-06-30 05:09 PM | REPLY

Arrogant much??

#10 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-06-30 05:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Communities have a responsibility to their citizens to keep the streets clean and safe. This ruling allows them to do that, or not, if they so choose.

#8 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

How? How does this accomplish that goal, at all?

Are unhoused people simply going to vanish?

Do you think unhoused people simply need the motivation of a $300 ticket to become housed?

Do you think spending more money on prisons, which is where they inevitably will end up is a net positive?

How do you sleep at night?

#11 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-30 05:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Imagine if the homeless took care of themselves so society wouldnt have to.

#9 | POSTED BY BOAZ

An unhoused person IS taking care of themselves, you just don't like how that looks.

#12 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-30 05:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Christians are good people."

LOLOLOLOLOL

I admit, I have met a few cannibals who are good people, usually because they took note of a few of the positive aspects of religions.

Most cannibals though I find to express a passive-aggressive arrogance, are intolerant, mean-spirited, self-righteous and ignorant. They may occasionally do a good thing here or there but more often than not expand the amount of misery in the world.

#13 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-30 05:37 PM | Reply

Imagine if the homeless took care of themselves so society wouldnt have to.
#9 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Breaking news:
Homeless Veterans are idiots who can't take care of themselves

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-06-30 06:03 PM | Reply

Communities have a responsibility to their citizens to keep the streets clean and safe. This ruling allows them to do that, or not, if they so choose.

#8 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER AT 2024-06-30 09:42 AM | REPLY | NEWSWORTHY

The homeless are their citizens too you ignorant sap.

#15 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-06-30 06:11 PM | Reply

"Communities have a responsibility to their citizens to keep the streets clean and safe."

Do communities have a responsibility to keep their citizens safe in schools?

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-06-30 06:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Just to be clear:
We are only citizens of the United States.
There is no such thing as "state citizenship."

This is why we should all have the same RIGHTS.

#17 | Posted by YAV at 2024-06-30 06:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The homeless are their citizens too you ignorant sap.
#15 | Posted by LauraMohr

Because they're citizens they get to ignore our laws, take public property for their personal use, and prevent others from using our sidewalks and parks for their intended purposes?

#18 | Posted by censored at 2024-06-30 06:54 PM | Reply

A homeless person has never prevented me from doing anything.

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-06-30 07:01 PM | Reply

But I guess some people like the Kensington, Philadelphia look.

#20 | Posted by censored at 2024-06-30 07:07 PM | Reply

@#18 ... Because they're citizens they get to ignore our laws, take public property for their personal use, and prevent others from using our sidewalks and parks for their intended purposes? ...

Instead of railing against the symptoms, maybe try to look at the cause and resolve that.


Why are the homeless there?

#21 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-30 07:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Because they're citizens they get to ignore our laws, take public property for their personal use, and prevent others from using our sidewalks and parks for their intended purposes?

POSTED BY CENSORED AT 2024-06-30 06:54 PM | REPLY

It's easy to look down upon people who have nothing and are merely trying to survive this experiment called life. They are just trying to live the best way they know how.

#22 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-06-30 07:16 PM | Reply

There are almost no homeless veterans. There are a lot of those who got kicked out for various reasons and bad conduct discharges and don't get benefits. Every time I go to the VA, they ask are you homeless? Do you need help?

But if you had ever been to a VA, you would know this.

Most of those "veterans" at the intersections are scams.

#23 | Posted by boaz at 2024-06-30 07:26 PM | Reply

"There are almost no homeless veterans. "

LMFAO!

#24 | Posted by Tor at 2024-06-30 07:27 PM | Reply

Why are the homeless there? #21 | Posted by LampLighter

Lots of reasons (e.g., drugs, mental illness, lazy, good for nothings). Maybe some combination of the above.

It's easy to look down upon people who have nothing and are merely trying to survive this experiment called life. They are just trying to live the best way they know how. #22 | Posted by LauraMohr

Then I guess those who are able to do so, better learn to earn their keep. It's not my job or my community's to enable druggies to live on the street and deal with all the issues that flow from that.

And those who can't take care of themselves? Then we better step up as a society and take care of them. But we are no longer required to let people live on the street because that's what they want. With the threat of incarceration, we have one more tool to deal with this issue, if we so choose.

#25 | Posted by censored at 2024-06-30 07:31 PM | Reply

Then I guess those who are able to do so, better learn to earn their keep. It's not my job or my community's to enable druggies to live on the street and deal with all the issues that flow from that.
And those who can't take care of themselves? Then we better step up as a society and take care of them. But we are no longer required to let people live on the street because that's what they want. With the threat of incarceration, we have one more tool to deal with this issue, if we so choose.

POSTED BY CENSORED AT 2024-06-30 07:31 PM | REPLY

Arrogant much??

#26 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-06-30 07:34 PM | Reply

@#25 ... It's not my job or my community's to enable ...

So, you say for yourself and speaking for your community that both have no responsibility to assure the welfare of those in the community?

... But we are no longer required to let people live on the street because that's what they want ...

I disagree that is what the homeless want.

It is the only solution they see to continue living.

That is why I have said to address the cause, not the symptom.

Help them see other solutions.



#27 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-30 07:38 PM | Reply

Why are the homeless there? #21 | Posted by LampLighter
Lots of reasons (e.g., drugs, mental illness, lazy, good for nothings). Maybe some combination of the above.
It's easy to look down upon people who have nothing and are merely trying to survive this experiment called life. They are just trying to live the best way they know how. #22 | Posted by LauraMohr
Then I guess those who are able to do so, better learn to earn their keep. It's not my job or my community's to enable druggies to live on the street and deal with all the issues that flow from that.
And those who can't take care of themselves? Then we better step up as a society and take care of them. But we are no longer required to let people live on the street because that's what they want. With the threat of incarceration, we have one more tool to deal with this issue, if we so choose.

POSTED BY CENSORED

Yet you fail to realize that that ------- is trying to get arrested so he has a. food. b. clothing. c. shelter d. healthcare.

the threat of incarceration is pointless.

A $300 ticket is not going to motivate someone to get un-unhoused.

But, hey, more convicts=more costs.

At least the for profit prisons will make a profit.

#28 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-30 07:39 PM | Reply

But if you had ever been to a VA, you would know this.
Most of those "veterans" at the intersections are scams.

#23 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Is that hole you have your head in, the ground or your own -------?

#29 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-30 07:41 PM | Reply

@#23 ... There are almost no homeless veterans. ..

Got a link for that assertion?

Here's one I saw...

What are the 2022 statistics for veterans experiencing homelessness?
valorhealthcare.com

... In 2022, there were more than 580,000 individuals in need of housing in the United States. And while less than 10% of people in America are veterans, almost 13% of the adult population experiencing homelessness is made up of veterans. ...

... and ...

Facts About Homeless Veterans
www.pinestreetinn.org

... Why are veterans homeless?

In addition to the complex set of factors that affect most homeless individuals lack of affordable housing, poverty, job or income loss, mental illness, substance abuse, health problems, etc. many veterans live with the lingering effect of PTSD, often compounded by a lack of family and social support networks. Military occupations and training are not always transferable to the civilian workforce, placing some veterans at a disadvantage when competing for employment. ...


... and ...

Not directly related, but a somber article nonetheless...

Pattern of Brain Damage Is Pervasive in Navy SEALs Who Died by Suicide
www.nytimes.com

... A military lab found distinctive damage from repeated blast exposure in every brain it tested, but Navy SEAL leaders were kept in the dark about the pattern.

David Metcalf's last act in life was an attempt to send a message " that years as a Navy SEAL had left his brain so damaged that he could barely recognize himself.

He died by suicide in his garage in North Carolina in 2019, after nearly 20 years in the Navy. But just before he died, he arranged a stack of books about brain injury by his side, and taped a note to the door that read, in part, "Gaps in memory, failing recognition, mood swings, headaches, impulsiveness, fatigue, anxiety, and paranoia were not who I was, but have become who I am. Each is worsening."

Then he shot himself in the heart, preserving his brain to be analyzed by a state-of-the-art Defense Department laboratory in Maryland.

The lab found an unusual pattern of damage seen only in people exposed repeatedly to blast waves.

The vast majority of blast exposure for Navy SEALs comes from firing their own weapons, not from enemy action. The damage pattern suggested that years of training intended to make SEALs exceptional was leaving some barely able to function. ...


#30 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-30 07:50 PM | Reply

Arrogant much?? #26 | Posted by LauraMohr

It's arrogant to expect people who are able to do so, to work for a living and stop forcing others to live in their filth? At a time of near record-low unemployment? Then I guess I'm arrogant.

It is the only solution they see to continue living. That is why I have said to address the cause, not the symptom. Help them see other solutions. #27 | Posted by LampLighter

Lots of causes which will require varying solutions. Removing the able-bodied from the streets with threat of incarceration is only one step, but a necessary one.

But, once again, more compassionate communities are entirely free to let the homeless live as they please. It's their choice.

Yet you fail to realize that that ------- is trying to get arrested so he has a. food. b. clothing. c. shelter d. healthcare. the threat of incarceration is pointless. [...] #28 | Posted by truthhurts

But there is a point. Removing certain people from society has its own value. For the time the guy was in jail, those kids and parents didn't have to walk by his tent full of stolen bikes and the sign offering them free fent.

Locking up a guy for a year? $100K. Not having to walk by a guy offering drugs in front of your kid's elementary school? Priceless.

#31 | Posted by censored at 2024-06-30 08:05 PM | Reply

@#31 ... It's arrogant to expect people who are able to do so, to work for a living and stop forcing others to live in their filth? ...

Again, ignoring the root cause and railing against the symptoms.

Why not focus upon the reasons homelessness exists and trying to resolve those reasons?

Instead of railing against easy victims?

#32 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-30 08:13 PM | Reply

"Not having to walk by a guy offering drugs"

Homeless people are drug dealers too?
You sound just like Trump.

#33 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-06-30 08:22 PM | Reply

"Removing certain people from society has its own value."

Only 653,103 more to go.

For not having a house

for being poor

for being mentally ill

"Locking up a guy for a year? $100K."

so

$65,410,300,000/year

Maybe there is a better more cost-effective way.

#34 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-30 09:13 PM | Reply

"Removing the able-bodied from the streets with threat of incarceration..."

I fail to see how the threat of incarceration will have any impact on unhoused people.

#35 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-30 09:14 PM | Reply

"Removing the able-bodied from the streets with threat of incarceration..."

But we won't be building any camps, I swear!

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-06-30 09:16 PM | Reply

But we won't be building any camps, I swear!.....#36 POSTED BY SNOOFY

what's wrong with camps. WPA worked great.

#37 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-30 09:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

WPA worked great.
#37 | POSTED BY BRERRABBIT

So you're a FDR Democrat.
LOL

#38 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-06-30 09:49 PM | Reply

what's wrong with camps. WPA worked great.

#37 | POSTED BY BRERRABBIT AT 2024-06-30 09:46 PM | REPLY

Why do you hate the Bill of Rights?

#39 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-30 09:49 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

So you're a FDR Democrat......#38 POSTED BY SNOOFY

I'd like to think so... and I 'm sure you're a bill clinton acolyte

#40 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-30 11:29 PM | Reply

Why do you hate the Bill of Rights?....#39 POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

I don't ...but I do hate attempts to pervert their intent to suit a specific political ideology

#41 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-30 11:34 PM | Reply

@#41 ... I don't ...but I do hate attempts to pervert their intent to suit a specific political ideology ...

Got specific examples, and justifications (a.k.a. links)?

#42 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-30 11:38 PM | Reply

#42 POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

opinion

noun: opinion; plural noun: opinions
a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

#43 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-30 11:48 PM | Reply

So I asked (#42) ... ... Got specific examples, and justifications (a.k.a. links)? ..

And your reply is...

#$43 ... opinion ... a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge. ...

It is good to see that you admit your comments are not based upon fact or knowledge.

#44 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-30 11:58 PM | Reply

Less feces and needles on the streets of Seattle, Austin, Portland, and San Francisco?!?! Gasps!!!!!

#45 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-07-01 09:04 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

not necessarily ....#44 POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

here's another concept that eludes the virtue signaling left loons...HONESTY

#46 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-07-01 09:06 AM | Reply

including throwing away more of homeless people's property

Throwing away homeless people's property may be the end result but it will not be the first option. When an encampment is taken down, the homeless, like other citizens, are entitled to take their property with them. If they have to much stuff to take with them, the city can and will confiscate what remains. However, it would seem that the city has a duty to give people a receipt for any property that is impounded as well as instructions as to how their property can be retrieved. In all likelihood, court cases will have to be filed to establish that the homeless have a right to retrieve impounded property because the initial actions of the cities will be to toss their stuff into the garbage.

#47 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2024-07-01 01:00 PM | Reply

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