Hezbollah Leader Confirmed Dead

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#8 | Posted by Brennnn at 2024-09-28 12:25 PM
Do they think they can kill there way to where there is no hate?

There is no place on Earth "where there is no hate" - there is either too much money in hate, or it has been taught and ingrained since childhood by various religions, [death] cults, ideologies, supremacists etc.

But if you destroy enough of those who teach and practice hate, you could achieve peace, even if it's "cold," while society de-programs and teaches generations of others to become "normal" - it's been done numerous times, including Israel and its neighbors.

It may not get you "love thy neighbor" vibe from them, but it should stop them from trying to kill you and you having to kill them first... and get you [and them] peace.

It's a lot easier to teach and use hate where life - their own or others - has no or little value, except in the service of hate or in return for a monetary reward.

en.wikipedia.org - Palestinian Authority Martyrs Fund
Purpose: Financial support to the families of Palestinians killed, injured, or imprisoned for violence against Israel

jcpa.org - Incentivizing Terrorism:
Palestinian Authority Allocations to Terrorists and their Families - 2017

|------- The Palestinian Authority's legislation and allocations of monthly salaries and benefits rewarding imprisoned and released terrorists, and the families of "Martyrs," amount to $300 million annually. This financial reward clearly demonstrates the PA's institutional commitment to sponsoring terror against Israel.

When I learned of this in November 2015... I proceeded to raise the issue with organized American Jewish community leaders and Israeli policymakers, and was told "everybody knows."

According to Palestinian leaders, achieving their national goal of establishing their state over all of Palestine commits them to struggling against Zionism in a wide variety of ways, including terrorism. Therefore, terrorists.. are heroes fighting for the national and religious cause, and... should be glorified and rewarded...

The salary payments to terrorists from all Palestinian terror organizations, including Hamas as well as those who carried out terror attacks after the Oslo agreements ... are made according to Palestinian Authority legislation ...

Legally, the payments of salaries to terrorists stand in sharp contrast to the Oslo agreements...

... Ali asks his mother what would happen if he killed a Jew and went to an Israeli prison. She tells him he'd be paid thousands of dollars each month by the Palestinian Authority. In fact, she tells him, the more Jews he would kill, the more money he'd get. Oh, and when he gets out of prison, Ali would be guaranteed a job with the Palestinian Authority. ... Hundreds of thousands of Palestinian children ... are indoctrinated with hate... Imagine what it takes for a young boy or girl to break free out of this culture of hate. ... How can any of us expect young Palestinians to support peace when their leaders poison their minds against peace?

While Israeli leaders condemn terrorists, all terrorists, Arabs and Jews alike, Palestinian leaders celebrate terrorists. While Israel jails the handful of Jewish terrorists among us, the Palestinians pay thousands of terrorists among them. ...
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Talking about value of life - IDF had opportunity to eliminate Hamas head Yahya Sinwar recently, but didn't take it for fear of harming hostages.
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In other news from Middle East:

* Hezbollah confirmed Israel had carried out strikes in Beirut's Kola district, targeting their Telegram channel

* IDF struck Yemen's Hodeidah and Ras Issa ports, attacking oil reserves and military supplies, following Houthis recent 3 ballistic missile attacks on Tel-Aviv and central Israel. This strike substantially exceeded massive strike on Hodeidah port in July, using "dozens" of F-15i planes 1800 kilometers from Israel. Targets also included power plants and a seaport used to import oil and transfer Iranian weapons to the region, in addition to military supplies and fuel tankers.

IDF noted that Houthis are cooperating with Iraqi "militias" who are also Iranian proxies in the region, but avoided directly striking militias in Iraq, to prevent complicating situation there for the US.

* In Syria, on September 24 USAF conducted two strikes which killed 37 militants affiliated to the extremist IS and an al-Qaeda-linked groups. On September 16 US conducted a large-scale airstrike on IS training camp in Syria, which killed 28 militants, including at least 4 Syrian leaders.
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#16 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2024-09-29 11:07 PM
Good Americans and westerners don't start off hating Israel.

Good Germans in 1920s-30s didn't start off hating Jews. Palestinian children didn't start off hating Jews, Israelis, Israel. They "learned" from someone | somewhere | somehow.

It's not until we start learning [from someone|somewhere|somehow] and paying attention ... that this view begins to change.

And we learn [from someone|somewhere|somehow] that this evil ...

We suddenly [??] realize that Israelis have been indoctrinated from birth to view the non-Jewish indigenous populations of the region as less than human ... despite having more than 21% of Arab Israeli citizens, as well as more than 5% of Druze, Bedouins and other minorities and being the only multicultural, multi-religion, multi-party democratic society, with liberal western norms, who have no problems living next to / side-by-side with their neighboring Arab countries after they gave up on destroying Israel in several major and minor wars and sought peace. In fact, their economies greatly benefited from trade with more prosperous Israel, which has neither oil nor abundance of natural resources.

Palestinian leaderships, OTOH, refused peace and establishment of Palestinian state every time it has been offered to them, and broke every "permanent cease-fire" agreement with Israel.

But who needs the facts, knowledge or reasoning? We have social media to "learn" from.

We learn that this is what we are seeing when we [or someone we don't know] translate [by someone we don't know] comments Israelis [or someone we don't know] make in Hebrew on social media [or somewhere] ...

The social media "information" is a great resource... for being indoctrinated and radicalized.

And we gradually [!!] come to understand ... ... ... all the reasons we now hate Israel and Jews... voil'a! You have graduated from the University of Indoctrination and Radicalization!

Thank you. You've just described a classic process of indoctrination and radicalization. That's how the young Palestinians and poor-critical-thinking adults anywhere, especially exposed to the "right information" on social media, get radicalized and keep looking and "paying attention" for all kinds of one-sided grievances (real, made up or fake), instead of learning well-known facts and looking at real causes of Palestinians suffering - they are true victims of their own leaderships, who portray them as victims of Israel / Zionists / Jews. That gets them both sympathy and billions in "humanitarian aid" for "refugees" which they use for their stated goal of genocide - Jews and Israel.

Their "leaderships" (depending on which "militia" / sect / gang one belongs to) always aligned themselves with forces or powers antithetic and hostile to Jews and/or Israel: German Nazis before and during WW2, then with the other Arab countries and Soviet Union/Russia, and later, after dissolution of USSR, with Islamic Republic of Iran to wage the Jihad / Holy Struggle - Hitler's "Mein Kampf" also translates into "My Struggle."

Their view of Israel is the same as Putin's view of Ukraine - it's "our land and always has been" and Ukrainians / Israelis are the "occupiers / colonizers" - thoroughly debunked, but alive and well in propaganda and social media.

I am not trying to change your mind, but the [anti-Israel] "process" of indoctrination and radicalization that you described here is a classic "teachable moment" / "case study" for others, so... thanks!

"We learn from history that we learn nothing from history"
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#19 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-10-01 04:53 AM
Isn't it nice sitting at home on your couch spreading hate about people you know nothing about.

The one sitting on the couch spreading hate, half-truths and propaganda you love to spread about people you know nothing about... is you.

You didn't even read a quarter of my post, or care about any facts in it - just recited usual one-sided grievances ("oppressors") and habitually launched into ad hominem.

You are entitled to your own opinions. You are not entitled to your own facts.

You can ignore reality, you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.
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