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Tuesday, October 08, 2024

Former President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin have apparently communicated several times since Trump left office in 2021, according to Bob Woodward.

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More: Woodward wrote that a former Trump aide recounted being told to leave a room so Trump "could have what he said was a private phone call with Russian President Vladimir Putin." Woodward adds: "According to Trump's aide, there have been multiple phone calls between Trump and Putin, maybe as many as seven in the period since Trump left the White House in 2021."

#1 | Posted by qcp at 2024-10-08 10:53 AM | Reply

Rick Wilson
@TheRickWilson
Of course he calls Putin.

He's a Russian stooge. A patsy. A weak minded simp. A useless idiot.

#2 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-10-08 11:03 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Alex Cole
@acnewsitics

2h
What do Vladimir Putin and Jeffrey Epstein have in common? They both had Donald Trump on speed dial.

#3 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-10-08 01:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

They both have his ---- on their dicks.

#4 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-10-08 02:40 PM | Reply

The Logan Act (1 Stat. 613, 18 U.S.C. 953, enacted January 30, 1799) is a United States federal law that criminalizes the negotiation of a dispute between the United States and a foreign government by an unauthorized American citizen. The intent behind the Act is to prevent unauthorized negotiations from undermining the government's position.

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Trumpy's main goal in life is obviously undermine the US government. If he made calls to a foreign adversarial government with the intent to undermine the U.S. government then a warrant should be issued for his arrest.

#5 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-10-08 04:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What did Putin's bitch do with the missing Russia binder?

www.reuters.com

#6 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-10-08 07:12 PM | Reply

From the link in #6...

... A binder holding top-secret intelligence that contributed to a U.S. assessment that Russia tried to help throw the 2016 U.S. election to Donald Trump has been missing since the last days of his presidency, a source familiar with the issue said. ...

OK, that missing binder seems to have an intent behind why it went missing.

#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-08 08:22 PM | Reply

Trump's loss in 2020 ended up putting big crimp in Russia's expansion plans. Those multiple phone calls between Trump and Putin could have been Trump trying to convince an angry Mr. Putin that he (Trump) had a bulletproof plan to overturn the election and that he (Putin) should go forward with the invasion of Ukraine ~~ which he (Putin) did in February 2022.

I find it hard to believe that Mr. Putin was that gullible but on the other hand, the cooperative planning between Trump and Putin for the invasion was a long time in the making, not to mention wholly dependent on Trump winning re-election ~~ so perhaps, with Russian forces already amassed on the border, it was too late for Mr. Putin to do anything but take Trump's word and go forward.

A serious case of bad judgment on both Trump and Putin.

But all is not lost. If Trump wins in 2024 and cuts off military funding for Ukraine, Mr. Putin, if can hang on just another few months, might finally get his wish.

It's not too early to predict, with a Trump presidency, that the United States will find itself involved in WWIII as Trump joins forces with Russia to expand their invasion into the Baltic states and beyond in Eastern Europe.

#8 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-10-09 03:27 AM | Reply

Now we know why Combover Quisling was pushing the traitors in Congress to tank Ukraine military aid. Combover Quisling is a traitor and needs to be arrested immediately!

#9 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2024-10-09 03:58 AM | Reply

GUNSLINGER

Right now Trump is just a (small t) traitor. But if he's elected and ignores NATO (and Congress if necessary) to join forced with an adversary (Russia) he will be officially a (capitol T) Traitor. His only recourse is to be exonerated by the U.S. Supreme Court, an objective already in progress.

On the domestic side . . .

Trump is not smart enough to devise and carry out such a complicated plan. He's basically a follower. The plan itself has been engineered by the Heritage Foundation (Project 2025) in cooperation with the GOP.

Which answers the question of why Trump is going to such drastic (and unlawful) measures to win the election in 2024. Absolutely EVERYTHING is dependent upon it. They're all desperate ~ Trump, Putin, the GOP, the U.S. Supreme Court, the engineers of the project at the Heritage Foundation, J.D. Vance (the GOP's unelected replacement in 2028) and every state governor and every state legislator who has joined forces with Trump to abolish democracy in favor of an autocracy and a one-party rule forever.

#10 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-10-09 05:17 AM | Reply

I honestly wondering if treason is proven against Trump will the MAGAtraitors continue to stupidly still follow him?

#11 | Posted by danni at 2024-10-09 06:04 AM | Reply

will the MAGAtraitors continue to stupidly still follow him?

So long as he hates jews, muslims, blacks, mexicans, the poor, women, LGBTQ+, etc they will still love him.

#12 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-10-09 06:09 AM | Reply

DANNI

Trump will make sure his newly appointed Attorney General at the DOJ will not charge him with Treason.

Keep in mind, that if Trump is elected, all of the other felony charges against him will be dropped and disappear into the dustbin of history.

Any State Attorney General with civil indictments or pending charges will also be replaced and the charges dropped.

With the U.S. Supreme Court in his pocket, appeals will be fruitless.

IOW, if Trump wins this election, he will be a free man to retaliate against all his enemies. No one who has ever made a judgment or spoken out against his re-election will be safe from his rampage.

BTW, if Trump is elected, the Free Press will be among the first to go and the media will be replaced with State Run TV along with internet access.

The United States will also have a new Constitution drawn up by the folks at the Heritage Foundation. Trump will be America's first Dictator and there won't be a thing anybody can do about it ~ without being arrested for crimes against the new "establishment."

The United States will be in charge of a madman ~ as most Dictators in history are known to be.

#13 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-10-09 06:39 AM | Reply

#11
They will do whatever he tells them to do.

But here's what I do: Take a piece of printer paper - first inclination was to say, "typing paper" - and draw a heavy dark line horizontally across the center. Call that line "Average Intelligence." Now, start population distribution and you'll see the distribution across the page with respect to that line.

Guess where you'll find most of your Trumpists, the goobers you see at those ridiculous rallies?

#14 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-10-09 07:24 AM | Reply

I honestly wondering if treason is proven against Trump will the MAGAtraitors continue to stupidly still follow him?

#11 | Posted by danni

I can answer that one for you. Of course MAGA would support Trump despite his being concretely proven to be a traitor.

Haven't we known for years now that the primary impulse of MAGA is to see things burn?

It's the same motivation that caused the Khmer Rouge to murder people who wore eyeglasses.

These people have been accumulating grievances for all of their lives. PERSONAL grievances, often with names attached. Often against people they know.

If MAGA could ever be honest about the things they resent, you would be astounded how simple and stupid a lot of them are. Things that make sense only to mean 4th Graders.

MAGA looking for the sort of emotional catharsis that only a traitorous dictator can provide them.

I fear that the closest model will be Rwanda.

#15 | Posted by Zed at 2024-10-09 07:55 AM | Reply

ZED @ #15

"Of course MAGA would support Trump despite his being concretely proven to be a traitor"

Trump won't need that bunch of ragtags any more. As Dictator he'll abolish the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 and have the whole U.S. Military at his disposal. Trump has already told us he plans to fire any general, including the Joint Chief, if they disobey him.

The first thing Dictators guard most against is a mutiny or a military coup.

Remember in Russia when there were rumors of dissent in the Kremlin, Putin broke us the clique.

And also remember what happened to Yevgeny Prigozhin , leader of the Wagner Group, when Putin got the message they were headed for Moscow.

So yeah, Trump will follow the example set his friend, Vladimir Putin.

#16 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-10-09 09:44 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump is very envious of the power Vladimir Putin has in Russia. Trump wants the same for himself in the U.S. at least for as long as he lives.

Then, of course, we have J.D. Vance wearing out his kneepads in hopes the GOP picks him as Trump's successor.

#17 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-10-09 09:52 AM | Reply

I'll wager that the NSA listened in on these calls from an offshore site, and that Biden (and perhaps Harris) knew about the calls and what was discussed. One does not call or receive a call from the Russian government without someone in the US intelligence community knowing about it ...

#18 | Posted by catdog at 2024-10-09 10:42 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I'll wager that the NSA listened in on these calls from an offshore site, and that Biden (and perhaps Harris) knew about the calls and what was discussed."

They don't really "listen" to all calls. But they have them. NSA sweeps up all the data streams in and out of America and stores it. If something like this comes to light they can go back and search thru it and find all the calls made to and from Russia via AI tech. If they want to.

#19 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-10-09 10:53 AM | Reply

#19 | Posted by donnerboy

While this is true, a call from the Kremlin to citizen Trump is going to be listened to.

#20 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2024-10-09 11:24 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Re 20

One would hope so..

Maybe in 50 years we will get to hear those "tapes".

Depending on who wins in November of course.

#21 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-10-09 11:36 AM | Reply

This seems appropriate to post here:

Trump-Putin

Yep.

Very appropriate.

#22 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-09 12:03 PM | Reply

Of course there's no evidence for any of this...

#23 | Posted by commnotes at 2024-10-09 02:01 PM | Reply

"Of course there's no evidence for any of this..." - #23 | Posted by commnotes at 2024-10-09 02:01 PM

We could explain it to you, but the one thing we cannot do is make you understand it

#24 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-09 02:03 PM | Reply

"Then, of course, we have J.D. Vance wearing out his kneepads in hopes the GOP picks him as Trump's successor."

Do you really want to go there kamalasister?

#25 | Posted by commnotes at 2024-10-09 02:03 PM | Reply

"Do you really want to go there kamalasister?" - #25 | Posted by commnotes at 2024-10-09 02:03 PM | Reply | Flag: MAGAt understanding

#26 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-09 02:07 PM | Reply

#24 | Posted by Hans
We could explain about mail voting being fertile for fraud, but you don't want to understand that.
We could explain about no voter ID being fertile for fraud, but you don't want to understand that.
Always you beg for evidence, as you design a voting system purposely to preclude verification.

#27 | Posted by commnotes at 2024-10-09 02:07 PM | Reply

-Make changes to voting procedures against state constitutions, call it good.
-Legislature legit makes new rules, you call that "unconstitutional"

#28 | Posted by commnotes at 2024-10-09 02:10 PM | Reply

...and don't you dare to inspect our private secret voting machine data, or we will gulag for you...

#29 | Posted by commnotes at 2024-10-09 02:16 PM | Reply

COMMONOTES

Well, there was that "Apprentice" shindig at Mara-a-Lago. I suspect Vance had holes in both his kneepads that were provided by Peter Thiel.

#30 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-10-09 02:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#27-#29, Posted by commnotes | Flag: MAGAt truth

#31 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-09 02:23 PM | Reply

#27-#29, Posted by commnotes

We could explain it to you, but the one thing we cannot do is make you understand it

#32 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-09 02:24 PM | Reply

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