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No one helped.

The bystanders were too busy filming. The cops? Well, instead of wrapping their jackets around a burning woman in an F train stopped at the Coney Island-Stillwell Avenue Station on Sunday morning, they walked by.

Then there was Sebastian Zapeta-Calil, the animal charged with lighting the match that set the innocent subway rider on fire " thus igniting a hellscape that feels like a metaphor for New York City's decaying underground.

The footage itself is a dystopian horror show: a female figure standing like a zombie while her sadistic torturer sits on the platform and watches her body be eaten by flames.

Surely, someone would have thrown their coat over her, ran to look for water, screamed at her to stop, drop and roll. Found a fire extinguisher. Yelled for help. Something. Most of us like to think we would have acted to save her life.

But a woman is now dead.

The whole scene of this gruesome killing embodies multiple layers of our dysfunctional city " and the brokenness of our society, writ large.

Zapeta-Calil is an illegal migrant from Guatemala who burned a sleeping woman because, quite simply, he could. He fears no authority because there are few consequences for breaking the law here.

#1 | Posted by boaz at 2024-12-24 06:59 AM | Reply

So you've entered the man's mind. A gift: Seriously, you'd be better off tending to your own overwrought and overheated weedpatch. Merry Christmas.

#2 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-12-24 07:37 AM | Reply

"Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus" (www.cs.cmu.edu).

#3 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-12-24 07:42 AM | Reply

#1
Sounds like the kind of guy Biden will pardon.

#4 | Posted by fortfisher at 2024-12-24 07:46 AM | Reply

Some of us gets it Boaz. You want to persecute a whole group of people for the horrific actions of the few. Make no mistake. This was a horrific tragedy. Most of the Undocumented immigrants commit fewer crimes than the American citizens as a whole. Don't forget that Jesus Christ was a refuge in a foreign land. Just sayin

#5 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-12-24 08:06 AM | Reply

Don't mention Jesus to me Laura. Wrong is still wrong. I can say what I want to say because you are protected here. People won't tell you what you need to hear. And you are just trolling. We need to close the border. Period. That's what the American people want. Full stop. If the border were more stringent, this guy wouldn't have made it in here and that woman would still be alive. That's facts, that's the truth. Americans are tired of your arguments. We voted accordingly.

#6 | Posted by boaz at 2024-12-24 08:18 AM | Reply | Funny: 3 | Newsworthy 1

I can't say what I want to say*****

#7 | Posted by boaz at 2024-12-24 08:19 AM | Reply

I just realized the Today show is one big advertisement.

#8 | Posted by boaz at 2024-12-24 08:20 AM | Reply

We need to close the border.

#6 | Posted by boaz

Donald will make a mess of it, then call it closed.

The man is already talking about deporting American citizens.

Only MAGA finds that less than disgusting.

#9 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-24 09:08 AM | Reply

Don't mention Jesus to me

#6 | Posted by boaz

That fits nicely onto a MAGA bumper sticker.

#10 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-24 09:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

When taken out of context, of course Zed.

#11 | Posted by boaz at 2024-12-24 09:33 AM | Reply

#11 | Posted by boaz

Jesus is sort of your team mascot. He's good for leading cheers and not much else.

#12 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-24 09:46 AM | Reply

lol... #1 is like the rwing version of a Christmas thread; post Christmas Eve thread, attack most of the people who come here in first post.

Not exactly the Christmas Spirit of family and togetherness is it?

'

WELL we can change that!

The Christmas Song - The Petersens (LIVE)

1 hour ago

www.youtube.com

the child at the end is Ellen's, she's the lead singer on this song... they are all family; 3 sisters, a brother on guitar, one of the sister's husband on dobro, Mom on bass, and a unique appearance by Dad on sax.

Have yourself a merry little Christmas.

#13 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-24 11:24 AM | Reply

"People won't tell you what you need to hear."

Boaz

People tell you every day what they think you need to hear, Boaz. What do you do with that information?

And what qualifies you to pass judgment on anyone here? The same sensibilities that weighed in so compassionately on the early deaths from the hurricane in WNC?

#14 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2024-12-24 11:32 AM | Reply

I Believe in Father Christmas
Song by Greg Lake

They said there'll be snow at Christmas
They said there'll be peace on earth
But instead it just kept on raining
A veil of tears for the virgin birth

I remember one Christmas morning
A winter's light and a distant choir
And the peal of a bell and that Christmas tree smell
And their eyes full of tinsel and fire

They sold me a dream of Christmas
They sold me a silent night
And they told me a fairy story
'Til I believed in the Israelite

And I believed in father Christmas
I looked to the sky with excited eyes
That I woke with a yawn in the first light of dawn
And I saw him and through his disguise

I wish you a hopeful Christmas
I wish you a brave new year
All anguish, pain and sadness
Leave your heart and let your road be clear

They said there'd be snow at Christmas
They said there'll be peace on earth
Hallelujah, Noel be it heaven or hell
The Christmas we get we deserve

I believe in Father Christmas - Greg Lake - Ian Anderson

www.youtube.com

#15 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-24 11:55 AM | Reply

Just read on another news-site that Denzel Washington has just recently become a Licensed Minister.

Now that's an interesting career switch.

#16 | Posted by shane at 2024-12-24 12:06 PM | Reply

Neuroscientist podcaster Andrew Huberman came out as a Godder a year ago...

www.youtube.com

#17 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-24 12:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Not exactly the Christmas Spirit of family and togetherness is it?

I believe in the spirit of Christmas.

But I also believe we should have that spirit all year long and it's sad for me to watch the rest of humanity only able to have it for one day.

It feels fake when you can only express love for your fellow man on one day of the year.

#18 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-24 12:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

We voted accordingly.

#6 | POSTED BY BOAZ

No matter who or what you vote for you don't get to violate the US Constitution. That's the deal. Take it or leave it.

#19 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-24 01:04 PM | Reply

Boaz doesn't give a shht about the constitution or America, he only cares about Trump, it's what makes him a Deplorable Trumping MAGAt.

#20 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-12-24 01:20 PM | Reply

Found a very interesting read: 12 Things Everyone Thinks About The Great Depression That Are Totally Wrong

www.ranker.com

I knew a few of these, but not all.

#21 | Posted by MSgt at 2024-12-24 01:47 PM | Reply

Don't worry MSG Presidents Trump and his owner, Musk, will let you experience the Great Depression first hand.

(Assuming you live long enough, what are you, 80?)

#22 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-12-24 02:13 PM | Reply

I knew a few of these, but not all.

#21 | POSTED BY MSGT

Good on you! History is important!

You might want to re-read the part about tariffs very carefully.

You are about to relive it.

#23 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-24 02:38 PM | Reply

Now that's an interesting career switch.
#16 | POSTED BY SHANE

Its his side hustle, which says alot about the Biden economy.

#24 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-12-24 02:50 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

You might want to re-read the part about tariffs very carefully.

What a typical DonnerTool take, its not that tariffs are good or bad, they are tool, much like a fiat currency is a tool.

Only a tool would put a judgement on a tool!

#25 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-12-24 02:51 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Denzel Washington has just recently become a Licensed Minister.

You can be as well.

www.themonastery.org

Join us, Brother.

#26 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-12-24 02:56 PM | Reply

Boaz. You want to persecute a whole group of people for the horrific actions of the few. Make no mistake.

Yes, this is true, its a group of people that have no legitimate reason to be in the country, killing Citizens just sleeping on a subway.

Also last night undocumented people stabbed 2 killing 1. Yet more murders documented migrants and Citizens didn't commit.

This was a horrific tragedy.

You don't really believe that, because your response is ... bBBBbbbbUt......

Most of the Undocumented immigrants commit fewer crimes than the American citizens as a whole.

Only if all Citizens commit crimes, by definition undocumented immigrants have committed at least one crime.

Don't forget that Jesus Christ was a refuge in a foreign land. Just sayin

More like just lyin.

#27 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-12-24 02:57 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

You might want to re-read the part about tariffs very carefully.

The only thing that moron reads are facebook memes.

#28 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-12-24 02:57 PM | Reply

- What a typical DonnerTool take,
Only a tool would put a judgement on a tool!

Sorta speaks for itself, doesn't it.

#29 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-24 02:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Classic self retorting, retort.

#30 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-12-24 03:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

He fears no authority because there are few consequences for breaking the law here.

I wonder what he thinks now that he is in jail, charged with 1st and 2nd degree murder and arson?

#31 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-12-24 03:11 PM | Reply

Stop bringing up facts, it conflicts with their narrative.

#32 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-12-24 03:18 PM | Reply

Such a nice way to point out the self-own.

#33 | Posted by YAV at 2024-12-24 03:20 PM | Reply

The Beatitudes are unrelated to Christianity, other than as an antithetical, to its twisted MAGA iteration.
Merry Christmas.

#34 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-12-24 03:48 PM | Reply

Don't mention Jesus to me Laura. Wrong is still wrong. I can say what I want to say because you are protected here. People won't tell you what you need to hear. And you are just trolling. We need to close the border. Period. That's what the American people want. Full stop. If the border were more stringent, this guy wouldn't have made it in here and that woman would still be alive. That's facts, that's the truth. Americans are tired of your arguments. We voted accordingly.

#6 | Posted by boaz at 2024-12-24 08:18 AM | Reply

First of all. Get bent. Second of all. You know I am correct about Jesus being a refugee you just don't want to admit to it is all. Thirdly I know what you are referring to. You've been Anti Transgender for years now. You don't believe that we even exist. You're entitled to your own opinion on the subject matter. It doesn't make you correct however Fourthly As per the Undocumented. We tacitly welcome them here with open wallets every time we demand the lowest prices in goods and services. You do realize that over 40% of farm labor is done by the Undocumented immigrants. It's true. I'm sorry the facts hurt Boaz. It is what it is.

#35 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-12-24 04:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

a female figure standing like a zombie while her sadistic torturer sits on the platform and watches her body be eaten by flames.

The MAGA filth refer to that as your body, my flames.

#36 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-12-24 04:25 PM | Reply

Such a nice way to point out the self-own.
#33 | Posted by LYINYAV at

Sorta speaks for itself, doesn't it.
#29 | Posted by Corky

So no argument that tariffs are tools and donnerbot is a tool.

Why do you leave your Lumper friends in a fight.

Lumpers going to lump.

#37 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-12-24 04:30 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Your retort was self-retorting.... which post is actually less intellectually offensive than most of yours.

Own it.

Merry Chow Mein!

#38 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-24 05:01 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

Where would the US be without tariffs you ask?

Tariffs enacted in 1964 to protect the auto industry.

The Chicken Tax is a 25 percent tariff on light trucks (and originally on potato starch, dextrin, and brandy) imposed in 1964 by the United States under President Lyndon B. Johnson in response to tariffs placed by France and West Germany on importation of U.S. chicken.[1] The period from 1961 to 1964[2] of tensions and negotiations surrounding the issue was known as the "Chicken War", taking place at the height of Cold War politics.[3]
en.m.wikipedia.org

Still in place, is it good or bad? According to the GaslightingGang its BAD because its a tariff.

But the auto industry in the US would be dead without it.
www.npr.org

Also, why do threads exist that you can't comment on? This could be considered a tariff.

Is this to make the site look better? Because the site seems to be slowly spiraling into the ground.

#39 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-12-24 05:04 PM | Reply | Funny: 1


Your retort was self-retorting.... which post is actually less intellectually offensive than most of yours.
Own it.
Merry Chow Mein!

#38 | POSTED BY CORKYDABIGOT FLAG: IAMOUTOFIDEAS

#40 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-12-24 05:05 PM | Reply

#39 | POSTED BY 1LUMPYDUMPER

You don't get it.

You keep going out of your way to prove it.

It's amusing. But also. A bit concerning there so many idiots like you in this country.

#41 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-12-24 05:15 PM | Reply

"So no argument that tariffs are tools and donnerbot is a tool."

I said my piece. I made my prediction. Can you disprove it?

No. You can't. So you insult the messenger.

A wise man once said. "Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."

And you obviously have a lot more experience than me at being an idiot.

#42 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-24 05:15 PM | Reply

Oh. And ... .

Happy Hanukkah!

#43 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-24 05:17 PM | Reply

Oh. I see you did finally come up with Chicken Tax examples of tariffs possibly working and not creating a depression.

I also see that YOU decided not to read that section on how tariffs helped deepen the Great depression very carefully. And so you learned nothing.

#44 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-24 05:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

- IAMOUTOFIDEAS
#40 | Posted by oneironaut

Ah, something we can agree upon! And since Day One here, too. Quite the accomplishment, I'd say.

Happy Taiwan Drones!

#45 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-24 05:32 PM | Reply

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