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Tech billionaire Elon Musk defended his move to demonetize his critics' content on the social media platform X and maintained the decision did not violate free speech.

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"Free speech u-turn"?

Nazis are never in favor of free speech.

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-02 04:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

"cracking down on dissent"

Soon to come to you're neighborhood, and then to you.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-02 04:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#1 | Posted by Zed

^^ Just called an African-American the N-word.

#3 | Posted by sentinel at 2025-01-02 04:41 PM | Reply

Not too sure why anyone still uses X for news or information.

On the flip side.

It has become popular for gay porn.

#4 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-02 04:57 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Not the first time Mr Musk has restricted those who criticize him on his "free-speech" platform.

And I doubt if it will be the last example of Mr Musk suppressing free-speech on his X platform.

Elon Musk is absolutely not a free speech absolutist' (September 2024)
www.theverge.com

... Elon Musk is a self-proclaimed "free speech absolutist." He's declared himself so committed to the unfettered, open exchange of ideas that he's said the only way X would let a government suppress speech on its platform is "at gunpoint." All of this explains why Musk recently allowed X to be banned in Brazil rather than comply with the country's mandate that the social media platform block certain accounts.

It does far less to explain Musk's history of doing that very thing in other countries " often at the behest of right-wing or authoritarian regimes.

Musk has been open to following government orders from nearly the beginning. In January 2023 " a little over two months after Musk's takeover " the platform then known as Twitter blocked a BBC documentary critical of India's prime minister, Narendra Modi. India's Ministry of Information and Broadcasting confirmed that Twitter was among the platforms that suppressed The Modi Question at the behest of the Modi government, which called the film "hostile propaganda and anti-India garbage." ...

Musk's other business interests may also be relevant. Erdoan asked Musk to build a Tesla factory in Turkey last fall, just a few months after X suppressed critics' posts. And this April, the Financial Times reported that Tesla is exploring locations for a $3 billion factory in India. The man who once said he'd only allow one of his companies to suppress speech "at gunpoint" is far less firm in his beliefs than he claims. ...


#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-02 06:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#2 ... Soon to come to you're neighborhood, and then to you. ...

Coming soon, or already happening?

Climate of fear is driving local officials to quit " new study from California finds threats, abuse rampant
theconversation.com

... Mob rule is not conducive to representative democracy. ...

The first year, we focused only on San Diego County, surveying 330 mayors, city councilors, county board of supervisor members and school board and community college board members. Over 25% of survey recipients responded. Of them, 75% reported being threatened or harassed at least once in the past five years. Roughly half said the abuse occurred at least monthly.

Respondents had found their name shared on the dark web and seen cars drive past their homes in an intimidating manner. They'd been followed after public meetings and blocked from leaving. In some cases, their families were harassed.

"As a parent, [I] feel vulnerable," one city council member said, adding that he's become "very guarded with [my] kid in public."

Topics that were most likely to prompt threats and harassment included COVID-19, gun control, school curricula and LGBTQ+ rights. ...


#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-02 06:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

so much for "bringing back freedom of speech," eh?
Hypocrisy: thy name has always, ALWAYS been GOP/Trump

#7 | Posted by e1g1 at 2025-01-02 10:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

People with two things in common are seeing a backlash on X.

1. large account
2. speaking negatively of the people who control most banking and wear a yarmulke.

Other than that, it's still the wild west over there.

Ben Shapiro has been marked safe.

#8 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-01-03 09:44 AM | Reply

Musk has NEVER been for Free Speech. We all know that but the dolts that worship him and Trumpilthinskin. He should be on the stripping of citizenship and deportation list according to Trump's announced rules for doing so too. Send him back to South Africa - I am sure they will love him there...

#9 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2025-01-03 12:13 PM | Reply

#9. Stripping him of citizenship because you don't like how he's running a tech platform?

The irony is thick.

#10 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-03 12:28 PM | Reply

"Stripping him of citizenship because you don't like how he's running a tech platform?"

No.

For lying on an application.

You know...the Hunter standard.

#11 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-01-03 12:34 PM | Reply

Was Hunter's citizenship ever in jeapordy of being stripped?

#12 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-03 12:39 PM | Reply

The stupid has gotten so deep it's difficult for me to even bother with this site that much these days.

#13 | Posted by YAV at 2025-01-03 12:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Was Hunter's citizenship ever in jeapordy of being stripped?"

Hunter was prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for a charge Eric Holder said "no US Attorney would bring". That's Lawfare, smacking you in the face.

"(Elon) defended his move to demonetize his critics' content"

Now CENSORSHIP smacking you in the face. Why aren't you condemning Musk in all caps?

#14 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-01-03 01:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

"The stupid has gotten so deep"

...and purposeful.

#15 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-01-03 01:04 PM | Reply

QAnon has taken over the Republican Party.

#16 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-03 01:17 PM | Reply

" Hunter was prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for a charge Eric Holder said "no US Attorney would bring". That's Lawfare, smacking you in the face"

No one is above the law. Lmao

#17 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-01-03 01:22 PM | Reply

" Hunter was prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for a charge Eric Holder said "no US Attorney would bring".

Eric Holder? Obama's wingman?

And you've vehemently supported a censorship regime up to this point. I don't like demonetization yet it happens on other social media platforms and has been long before Musk bought Twitter. I'll read the Mediate link and get back with you.

#18 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-03 01:38 PM | Reply

For the record, demonetization and/or loss of verification certificates is not censorship. I the verification certificates are a privilege. Again, I don't like demonetization at all and oppose this move by Musk.

#19 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-03 01:41 PM | Reply

"For the record, demonetization and/or loss of verification certificates is not censorship."

Then NOTHING in the Twitter Files rises to censorship, right?

#20 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-01-03 02:08 PM | Reply

"Eric Holder? Obama's wingman?"

He's stating a fact. Go ahead, find that charge brought on its own. Don't forget the three salient facts:

Owned the gun less than a fortnight.
Never loaded.
Never brandished.

The charge is only brought when the gun is used in the furtherance of another crime...including brandishing.

So how about we drug test every gun owner, to see if they've lied as well?

#21 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-01-03 02:14 PM | Reply

"No one is above the law."

You're right: if you or I stole classified documents, lied about them over a year, and refused to give them back, we'd both be rotting in jail until the government deigned to give us a trial date. Glad to hear you agree he should be locked up.

Meanwhile, feel free to find a US Attorney bringing a case solely around the three facts I listed.

And let me know your take on drug-testing every gun owner.

#22 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-01-03 02:18 PM | Reply

" Then NOTHING in the Twitter Files rises to censorship, right?

#20 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2025-01-03 02:08 PM | FLAG: "

Of course it can. It's not the completely open platform Musk promised. But it seems to be the most open social media platform out there.

" He's stating a fact"

Andrew Cuomo stated a fact that the Alvin Bragg case never would have been brought against anyone not named Trump.

The key difference between Holder and Cuomo is that Holder is defending an ally whereas Cuomo is defending an opponent.

#23 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-03 02:19 PM | Reply

how about we drug test every gun owner
#21 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

We really ought to.

#24 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-03 02:28 PM | Reply

Along with vision tests and required training.

#25 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-03 02:28 PM | Reply

And let me know your take on drug-testing every gun owner.

#22 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2025-01-03 02:18 PM

I like how you leave out the income tax evasion. Anyways. Hunter is above the law and you're just fine with it

#26 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-01-03 02:48 PM | Reply

"Not paying taxes makes me smart!"
-Trump

#27 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-03 02:50 PM | Reply

"Andrew Cuomo stated a fact that the Alvin Bragg case never would have been brought against anyone not named Trump."

Which is belied by the fact Bragg's office brought an average of four FBR cases PER DAY over the prior nine years. 9700 cases in nine years.

Thank God you've never pretended Trump was innocent, or you or I could commit his crime without repercussions.

#28 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-01-03 03:18 PM | Reply

"I like how you leave out the income tax evasion."

I don't.

I've just been in the business nearly 40 years, and the next time I meet someone who's paid his back taxes, with all interest and penalties, go to jail...

...will be my first.

Doesn't that suggest what Hunter was threatened with was LAWFARE?

#29 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-01-03 03:22 PM | Reply

" Doesn't that suggest what Hunter was threatened with was LAWFARE?

#29 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2025-01-03 03:22 PM | FLAG: "

The prosecution slow-walked as much as he could so SOL could elapse on as many cases as possible.

Then the plea deal they came up with was so ridiculous it was rejected by the judge. Finally a cou0le of cases were brought and the gun case was viewed as a slam dunk by the jury. All of this was done with the knowledge he'd receive a full pardon and Joe went even further by issuing a blanket pardon. Now we have recently released photographic evidence of the Big guy posing for a pic with Hunter AND Hunter's I business partners while the Big Guy was VP. Yet, somehow through all of this Hunter is a victim?

Add to that Danforth takes Holder's comment as gospel and ignores/downplays Cumo's comment.

#30 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-03 03:34 PM | Reply

Hunter wrote off hookers and blows as business expenses. Somehow, no problem with that.

#31 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-03 03:35 PM | Reply

Who does Hunter Biden think he is, Donald Trump??

#32 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-03 03:36 PM | Reply

"Hunter wrote off hookers and blows as business expenses."

Really? Here's a link, and nothing about writing off hookers and blow.
www.newsweek.com

Why did you make up that lie?

"downplays Cumo's comment."

Cuomo couldn't find a single example either.

"All of this was done with the knowledge he'd receive a full pardon"

Nonsense. State cases can't be pardoned, and federal tax evasion cases are always followed by state enforcement.

"Now we have recently released photographic evidence of the Big guy posing for a pic with Hunter AND Hunter's I business partners "

You're a moron. That proves exactly nothing, and underscores the fact you've always had nothing. Even with subpoena power, Comer and Jordan looked like the incompetent jackasses they are. FFS, their star witness testified he'd NEVER heard Joe talk business in the dozens of speaker-phone conversations he overheard.

Not that you bothered to listen to his testimony.

#33 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-01-03 03:46 PM | Reply

Why did you make up that lie?

He's following in the footsteps of his idol, Trump.

#34 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-03 04:01 PM | Reply

" their star witness testified he'd NEVER heard Joe talk business in the dozens of speaker-phone conversations he overheard."

That's not how influence peddling works. Hunter was demonstrating he had mmediate access. Nobody is going to talk about influence peddling on a speaker phone in a public place. Are you truly this naive?

#35 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-03 05:28 PM | Reply

;o) BelleBrat still talking about Hunter while his Party Certifies a 3 time Adjudicated Insurrectionist into the WH.

Well, unless Antifa does finally show up at the Capitol to stop the peaceful transfer of power in this country the way Republican MAGA did, by violent and illegal means.

Which is about the only thing that would make the Parties near the same when it comes to insurrectionist traitors in their ranks.

#36 | Posted by Corky at 2025-01-03 05:43 PM | Reply

"That's not how influence peddling works."

That's also not how damning testimony works.

Your conclusion is the absence of proof is proof. Much like your standard for HRC, and not at all like your standard with DJT.

I wonder why?

"Hunter was demonstrating he had immediate access."

Not illegal. In fact, it's seen as a smart business move if the letter after the name is an (R). Hack much?

#37 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-01-03 05:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Nobody is going to talk about influence peddling on a speaker phone in a public place."

When you have to call a private boardroom a "public place", you've lost the debate.

You didn't watch the testimony, did you?

#38 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-01-03 05:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Well at least his critics were making money.

Here we're just seen as money makers for the capitalist!
Who would have thought Musk would be more liberal than the owner of the drudge.

#39 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-03 06:51 PM | Reply

Doesn't that suggest what Hunter was threatened with was LAWFARE?
#29 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

By his own father no less, it's a star wars remake!

#40 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-03 06:52 PM | Reply

IAMRUNT is the most pathetic Leon dickrider ever.

#41 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-01-03 06:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Fatticus Dorkamus is a ------- snowflake.

#42 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-01-03 09:23 PM | Reply

#39

---- off Jeff you whiny oozing ----.

#43 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-01-03 09:34 PM | Reply

January 20th, for the first time in America's history, a convicted felon will take the oath of office for the Presidency of the United States.

#44 | Posted by YAV at 2025-01-03 10:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

a convicted felon will take the oath of office for the Presidency of the United States.

On behalf of the actual leader of the free world.

#45 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-01-03 10:42 PM | Reply

"Not illegal. In fact, it's seen as a smart business move if....."

We were first told for several years that Biden had zero workings with his son's business dealings.

Time after time, new evidence has been produced and it's fallen under the familiar pattern:

-It never happened at all
-Okay, it happened a little bit but it's still a smear conspiracy
-Okay, it happened a bit more than we realized but it was still nothing
-Okay, it really happened but it was actually a good thing.

"When you have to call a private boardroom a "public place"

Right. As if that was the ONLY place these interactions took place. If you can't even give all of this even the remotest of skepticism then why are we even having this conversation?

You brought Hunter Biden into a thread that wasn't about him. I allowed myself to be baited and I am angry with myself for doing so.

He's already received a blanket pardon so all of this discussion is pointless. Wanna talk about something currently relevant or just keep re-litigating the same stuff over and over into imperpetuity?

#46 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-04 02:00 AM | Reply

"convicted felon will take the oath of office for the Presidency of the United States.

#44 | POSTED BY YAV AT 2025-01-03 10:06 PM | FLAG: "

Nobody is convicted of a felony until the judge levies a sentence. We still have a legal system that is supposedly functional.

#47 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-04 02:01 AM | Reply

"Nobody is convicted of a felony until the judge levies a sentence."

Nonsense. The sentencing phase of a criminal case is conducted after a determination of guilt is made.

WTF do you think the person is guilty of in this case? A FELONY. That would make him a felon. A felon awaiting sentence, but a felon nonetheless.

Being convicted does not hinge on being sentenced.

Why do you make up lies all the time?

#48 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-01-04 04:02 AM | Reply

" We were first told for several years that Biden had zero workings with his son's business dealings."

And the partner not only testified Joe never spoke business, but that he'd never seen nor noticed proof of Joe's influence.

Of course, if you'd watched the testimony you know that.

Once again, I'm convinced you choose to keep yourself ignorant to save your precious talking points.

#49 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-01-04 04:05 AM | Reply

Nobody is convicted of a felony until the judge levies a sentence. We still have a legal system that is supposedly functional.

#47 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-04 02:01 AM | Reply

You have to be convicted of a crime in order to be sentenced. Trump at present is a convicted felon. Why do you lie so much Jeff?? It's all that you do is lie anymore. Typical Trumper.

#50 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-04 04:33 AM | Reply

Nobody is convicted of a felony until the judge levies a sentence. We still have a legal system that is supposedly functional.

He will be sentenced before January 20th. In fact, it appears he will be sentenced Friday, January 10th. As I said:

"January 20th, for the first time in America's history, a convicted felon will take the oath of office for the Presidency of the United States."

I can even give you your next talking point once the sentencing happens.

#51 | Posted by YAV at 2025-01-04 08:11 AM | Reply

" it appears he will be sentenced Friday, January 10th"

I just saw that this morning.

#52 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-04 10:25 AM | Reply

" Trump at present is a convicted felon. Why do you lie so much Jeff?? It's all that you do is lie anymore. Typical Trumper.

#50 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR AT 2025-01-04 04:33 AM | FLAG: "

That is not legally true. The conviction is not finalized until after the sentence is meted. I know it seems pedantic however ask anyone who is a lawyer. What I'm saying is accurate.

#53 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-04 10:27 AM | Reply

The conviction is not finalized until after the sentence is meted.

Well, let's just say he was convicted of multiple felonies by a jury then.

#54 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-01-04 11:56 AM | Reply

Ballwasher, the mewling spawn of a syphilitic gutter ----, is a ------- joke

#55 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-01-04 04:27 PM | Reply

That is not legally true. The conviction is not finalized until after the sentence is meted. I know it seems pedantic however ask anyone who is a lawyer. What I'm saying is accurate.

Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-04 10:27 AM | Reply

You just make up things out of whole cloth to defend your cult leader. Don't you Jeff?? How sad for you. At this very moment Trump is a 34 time convicted felon awaiting sentencing. Those are the facts of the case.

#56 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-04 04:46 PM | Reply

Hunter can violate gun laws, skip on takes and ,olest his sister and other family children but "no one is above the law" Why is it that the Biden's children are so screwed up? Surely it can't be dad's fault lmao...

#57 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-01-04 07:45 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

" You just make up things out of whole cloth to defend your cult leader. Don't you Jeff?? How sad for you. At this very moment Trump is a 34 time convicted felon awaiting sentencing. Those are the facts of the case.

#56 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR AT 2025-01-04 04:46 PM | FLAG: "

He's not convicted until the sentence is issued. Again, look it up. Ask any lawyer. This is true of anyone found guilty by a jury. It's not a Trump thing.

#58 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-04 09:22 PM | Reply

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