Rust Belt Voters on Why They Backed Trump Again Despite His Broken Promises

Saturday, January 11, 2025

Many in Youngstown, Ohio, believe the president-elect will tackle the town's decline this time. Others are worried about his character flaws.

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'There are a lot of bitter people here, I'm one of them': rust belt voters on why they backed Trump again despite his broken promises

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-- The Guardian (@theguardian.com) January 11, 2025 at 7:21 AM

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"character flaws"

That's an understatement. He has nothing BUT flaws.

#1 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-11 04:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"Many in Youngstown, Ohio, believe the president-elect will tackle the town's decline this time"

Saps.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-11 05:18 PM | Reply

"Many in Youngstown, Ohio, believe the president-elect will tackle the town's decline this time"

I don't even feel sorry for them. They've failed themselves.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-11 05:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Others are worried about his (Donald's) character flaws.

Posted by retort

Get back to use after you punch yourself out of the worry stage.

#4 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-11 05:22 PM | Reply

Let's see what Trump and the GOP-backed oligarghy do for the voters in Youngstown and all the other towns like it in the Rust Belt. I fear these voters are in for a rude awakening.

#5 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-01-11 05:32 PM | Reply

The people of Youngstown, Ohio, unhappy with so many years of being burned now race towards the fire.

#6 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-11 05:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

---- you magat scum, here's hoping you get all the pain you have coming to you and more. Your stupidity will be repaid in spades you morally bankrupt turds.

#7 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-01-11 06:01 PM | Reply

Let's see what Trump and the GOP-backed oligarghy do for the voters in Youngstown

I hear they're planning on sending in crates of dogs and cats to replace the ones the Haitians ate.

#8 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-11 06:07 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Great job morons you sacrificed your own children to your golden idol.

#9 | Posted by Tor at 2025-01-11 07:03 PM | Reply

Was it all a bunch of long-winded nonsense easily summed up as "because I'm stupid"?

#10 | Posted by jpw at 2025-01-11 07:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

If Trump let's them down, they're no worse off then they've been under Biden.

#11 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-01-11 08:57 PM | Reply

They will be worse off if they lose benefits like Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, SNAP. They will be worse off if prices don't go down and the wealth inequality increases after the billionaires get their tax breaks. They will be worse off if deregulation increases pollution and unchecked climate change causes more severe natural disasters. They will be worse off if they lose their health insurance, abortion bans keep killing women who don't need to die and anti-vax mandates bring back diseases that were under control. To name just a few things that could get worse under Trump 2.0.

#12 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-01-11 10:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

If Trump let's them down, they're no worse off then they've been under Biden.

#11 | Posted by visitor_ a

www.cnn.com

Red states are big winners of Biden's landmark laws

------- moron magat scum

#13 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-01-11 10:22 PM | Reply

-Red states are big winners of Biden's landmark law

Red states have been winning the same opportunities for decades.

It's not a gift from Biden. It's business.

#14 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-11 11:40 PM | Reply

-I don't even feel sorry for them. They've failed themselves.

They don't pity you either, Zed.

#15 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-11 11:42 PM | Reply

If Trump let's them down, they're no worse off then they've been under Biden.

#11 | Posted by visitor_

No, they won't. At the very least they'll be worse off economically.

However, when Trump does let them down (he will), they'll lash out and get more extreme, which will make it worse off for everybody.

#16 | Posted by jpw at 2025-01-12 12:10 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

They don't pity you either, Zed.

#15 | Posted by eberly at

1) I'll never ask for their pity

#17 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-12 10:50 AM | Reply

They don't pity you either, Zed.

#15 | Posted by eberly

2) By the Grace of God, I don't need their pity.

#18 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-12 10:51 AM | Reply

However, when Trump does let them down (he will), they'll lash out and get more extreme, which will make it worse off for everybody.

#16 | Posted by jpw

Maybe they'll decide to burn down Youngstown in their frustration. Like Watts, 1964. Yeah, they thought those people were idiots.

#19 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-12 10:53 AM | Reply

"We just want a change, a change in the weather," a retired aluminium (sic) worker wanting to go just by his first name,

And he's going to get a change, for the far far worse.
Words matter. Even if Trump does nothing but bluster, decline further into senility (very likely--see Biden 2021-2024) and play golf every (extremely likely), he will again create a climate of hgatred and neighbor against neighbor, just as he did before. He will also show the world that America cannot be trusted to help his allies.

#20 | Posted by e1g1 at 2025-01-12 11:12 AM | Reply

Nope, the first vote for Trump might have been excusable, people didn't really know him or believe he could be that bad. But the second time, after that coup attempt....to have voted for Trump was unforgivable.

#21 | Posted by Hughmass at 2025-01-13 06:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Many in Youngstown, Ohio, believe the president-elect will tackle the town's decline this time.

That's cute.

The only thing the felon is going to address is the ball before he swings.

You think he was disengaged last time? You ain't seen nothing yet.

President Elmo is calling the shots.

#22 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-01-13 07:34 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

to have voted for Trump was unforgivable.

#21 | Posted by Hughmass

It's like voting for a septic tank.

All these Youngstowners will get is sh--.

#23 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-13 08:38 AM | Reply

This obviously escapes you people because of your selfishness.

1. Voters in Youngstown, OH don't owe you a goddam thing
2. Voters in Youngstown, OH aren't any more important than anybody else
3. Not everyone votes for change. They vote because it's their civic duty and they have to select someone.
4. You don't live in Youngstown, OH. Stop pretending you understand what's going on there.

#24 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-13 09:02 AM | Reply

You don't live in Youngstown, OH. Stop pretending you understand what's going on there.

#24 | POSTED BY EBERLY

I understand that they didn't vote their own interests, and that they are now mewling because that's becoming evident. As if it weren't always evident. As if they didn't have the capacity to know.

I'm reminded of all those people who voted Nixon to end the war, only to get seven more years of it.

Sometimes you just have to use your good common sense. If you have any.

#25 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-13 09:39 AM | Reply

-I understand that they didn't vote their own interests,

What are their interests?

please list the top 5.

#26 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-13 09:45 AM | Reply

What are their interests?

#26 | POSTED BY EBERLY

The article states that their primary interests are financial.

Other articles state that they are already begging for money Donald wants to take away.

Other articles state that Donald made them all sorts of promises four years ago and kept none of them.

#27 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-13 09:59 AM | Reply

Sometimes you just have to use your good common sense. If you have any.

#28 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-13 10:00 AM | Reply

The 'Derp' is strong with these folks.
In Appalachia too. But really it was the
racism...

#29 | Posted by earthmuse at 2025-01-13 03:13 PM | Reply

Republicans remind me of domestic abuse victims who choose to remain with their abusive partner.

"Maybe this time things will be better."

#30 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-13 03:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

White voters point to conversations about justice " for racial minorities, for the children of immigrants, for women worried about losing their reproductive rights, for transgender teenagers " and question why nobody ever talks about justice for them

IOW they don't want to do their time in the barrel!

Why don't they just move is the comment I heard over and over when the people stuck in these old, hollowed out cities were blacks and other POC. Do they feel so entitled that they feel their cities deserve to be restored?

#31 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2025-01-13 04:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

-Republicans remind me of domestic abuse victims who choose to remain with their abusive partner.

and that's different from folks who live in inner cities who vote predominately democrat?

They all make horrible choices that land them where they are.

It's not any better for them just because they vote for democrats.

It's generational poverty in both places......

#32 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-13 05:26 PM | Reply

-Do they feel so entitled that they feel their cities deserve to be restored?

I think a lot of them do.

Politicians never come there and do anything except pander to them for their ------ lot in life and blame their opponents for it.

#33 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-13 05:27 PM | Reply