Why doesn't the article say why the agents were there? What brought them to the school? Were they there for career day? To arrest kids? To interview someone?

What terrible reporting. I'd like to know whatever it was that the school prevented them from doing.

And they are proud of preventing the Usss from investigating a death threat to a protectee?

Well, that's absolutely stupid.

Ummm. Out of idle curiosity, how is investigating a threat someone made against the president of the United States, unworthy of investigation? Like how is that "terrorizing their families?" Seriously I don't understand how it's evil.

If a member of someone's family committed a bank robbery, and detectives from the pd got a lead that needed to travel through an elementary school to help find the family member involved, no one would bat an eye. But it's "evil" to do the same for a threat? ( threat is a federal felony by the way.)

Just to be clear: I am completely against mass deportations of illegals, the fear mongering that they are here rape "our"women, mug "us" on the streets and kill "our" children is linguistic nonsense. The attempt to end birthright citizenship is the most unconstitutional and frankly evil thing I have ever seen.

But this just appears to be much ado about nothing. The secret service takes threats against their protectees very seriously, as they should. Calling them "ice" and thinking they are there to deport children ... after showing credentials, leaving business cards and explaining exactly why they are there, is nuts. They need to investigate threats like any other crime needs to be investigated.

Jingoistic not linguistic nonsense ...

But you are still glossing over the facts of THIS incident. THIS article.

The school overreacted given the information provided and went off half-cocked with incorrect information. They weren't ICE. They weren't there to deport anyone or terrorize any families. There were investigating a VERY serious federal felony: threatening to harm/kill a protectee of the secret service.

You may be correct about the big picture ... they are getting persecuted because they ARE being persecuted unfairly.

But we can't shut down legitimate investigations that may intersect with the same neighborhoods these human beings live. The work needs to get done, and they should save their freak out for when it matters.

Feeling, not getting. Dammit

You need a warrant to search or arrest. Not to interview. They weren't there to arrest anyone ...

Do you know nothing about the legal/law enforcement professions?

I should be more clear: there is no such thing as a warrant to interview someone or investigate a crime. They don't have one because they can't get one ... .because such a thing doesn't exist. You investigate crimes, and get warrants when the investigation dictates to search a place/area, or to go and arrest the subject at the conclusion of the case.

It's almost like you've never seen a single cop show on tv.

That is true.

Of someone is inside a building you want to talk to, you can either get permission to come in and do so, or get a warrant to force your way in. The warrant isn't for the interview itself. There is no need to seek a warrant for a school to conduct an interview. If they don't want to help make your investigation easier, so be it. There are other ways to get what you need.

What the problem is, the school freaking out, calling them ICE and telling the press false information after they identified themselves, left business cards, and explained why they were there.

Their freak out wouldn't have been mitigated by forcing their way into the building ... .

They completely blew it out of proportion. The agents came and asked to speak to someone at the school. They left their business cards after explaining why they were there and left without incident.

No big deal.

So why the freak out about ICE showing up and l insinuating they were scaring the children as they were their for deportation of their families?

It's just weird.

I understand people's general fear over theirs jingoistic deportation nonsense ... . But crimes still need to be investigated. Take a breath, and listen to what the pelt are saying so you don't look like a total douche on tv putting out compete fabrications like the school did.

Maybe? Maybe not. But if a threat is made, it's a very serious matter Ava they need to investigate it. Just because the information might be for an 11 year old, doesn't mean the ultimate source of the threat isn't dad or mom at home and there are parroting. They have to investigate and find out all the facts before calling it a nothing burger.

#34.

Again. You are clearly stuck on overarching immigration policy ... instead of the facts of this case.

Immigration has ZERO to do with why the agents were there. They clearly stated why they WERE there and clearly identified themselves ... .

And the school still went into full on freak out even though they were wholly incorrect in whatever scenario they imagined in their heads.

It wasn't true. Their freak out was unwarranted.

There had every right to refuse entry. That's fine. The agents didn't care, they left without incident. So why all the fuss ... . When their fuss was not just misdirected, it wasn't factual on any level.

#38 that is an irrefutable fact. On average, they are 30% less likely to be involved in crime than any other demographic. This whole deportation rampage and even more so the attempt to end birthright citizenship is unbelievably unconstitutional, evil, harmful, and misguided.

But again.. the only intersection that has with this case, is in the fever dreams of the school.

No. It isn't. This case should be judged on its own merits.

"We are with the secret service and need to speak to a student about a threat to kill the president." No. "Okay, thanks for your time here's our business cards."

"Hello channel 4? ZOMG ICE came down here and scared the children with threats to deport them!!!!!!"

And your position is the problem isn't with the school?

Unbelievable.

To think you give the school a pass on Confusing ICE conducting an illegal immigrant sweep to the United States Secret Service investigating a threat to kill the president ... .. after being specifically identified and specifying why they were there.

Now that's disingenuous.

Fine. I can accept that. The article is light on the details. The service said the agents left their business cards and left without incident after identifying themselves and advising why they were there. I take that at face value. If you don't, I understand why.

But ... .i do want to try and clarify one thing:

Why should this not have happened?

The agents were there for a very serious and legitimate purpose. Only the school put out blatant misinformation and misconstrued the contact. That can't be disputed: the agents identified themselves and left business cards ... . That say "us secret service."

The only part that shouldn't have happened is the school going crazy about ice conducting immigration raids, when ice wasn't the ones there and no one was conducting an immigration raid.

No it isn't ridiculous.

The information they have is the 11 year old made the threat. But until it's investigated, how do they know the child isn't parroting their parents, who are an actual threat to the president?

Every threat no matter how innocuous it may seem on its face should be investigated fully before they declare it a nothing burger.