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Thursday, October 30, 2025

It is easy to forget that Argentina was once one of the wealthiest countries in the world. In 1913, the average Argentinian had about 80 percent of the income of the average American. It took several generations of socialist politicians to destroy Argentina's wealth. Today. the average Argentinian has about 30 percent of the income of the average American. This is a lesson followers of Zohran Mamdani, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Elizabeth Warren, and Bernie Sanders should consider. If the American big government socialists do for the United States what Juan Peron and the Argentinian socialists did for their country, every American will rapidly become poorer.

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It's Trumpism that has made Zohran Mamdani possible.

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2025-10-30 11:18 AM | Reply

Eggs. Hamburger.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2025-10-30 11:19 AM | Reply

Posted by lfthndthrds

It's not surprising that you left out all the brutalism and financial disaster of Argentina's fascist years.

That's much, much too close to Donald and MAGA.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2025-10-30 11:30 AM | Reply

Tell me you know NOTHING about Argentinian history without telling me you know NOTHING about Argentinian history.

#4 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-10-30 11:37 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Montani is gonna win the election. And New Yorkers will be thrilled. But lfthndturds is gonna have a very bad day.

And Lefthandturd doesn't even live in New York.

And so it goes..

#5 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-10-30 11:41 AM | Reply

Re 5

"Montani" = Mamdani ... . Thx Siri!

#6 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-10-30 11:54 AM | Reply

Montani is gonna win the election.

#5 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-10-30 11:41 AM | Reply | Flag:

Fine by me. I don't have to live with his garbage policies.

#7 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-10-30 11:55 AM | Reply

The a lesson followers of Zohran Mamdani should consider is that Abraham Lincoln is literally Hitler.


"Montani" = Mamdani ... . Thx Siri!

#6 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

We all know its because you're a racist that you can't say Mamdani's name properly. I certainly have no issue with Siri, or Google S2T.

#8 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-10-30 12:22 PM | Reply

#8

'Liberals' ain't what they used to be.... intelligent.

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2025-10-30 12:25 PM | Reply

We all know..

You and that foreign commie agitator mouse in your pocket?

It was a typo you farging ICEhole.

I am curious. So why did you abandon your own country? China is a beautiful place with many exciting opportunities. Why exactly did you come here?

#10 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-10-30 12:28 PM | Reply

The a lesson followers of Zohran Mamdani should consider is that Abraham Lincoln is literally Hitler.

Also. What the holy hell does that even mean!?

Are you having some kind of stroke?

#11 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-10-30 12:30 PM | Reply

- Are you having some kind of stroke?

It would be difficult to tell, right?

#12 | Posted by Corky at 2025-10-30 12:32 PM | Reply

If Argentina proves anything, it's that we CANNOT allow Republicans to lead the country.

We get:
1. Loss of an independent central bank
2. Massive deficits
3. Loss in trade and currency credibility

Republicans are turning us into Argentina.

#13 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-10-30 06:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

@#1 ... It's Trumpism that has made Zohran Mamdani possible. ...

In some (many?) respects, I agree.

One aspect of the NYC Mayor that is known locally, but does not seem to be known nationally, is that the NYC Mayor needs the approval of the NY Legislature for many of the things he has been proposing.

For example, free bus rides? Well, the MTA in NYC is a state-level entity.

About the MTA
www.mta.info

... The Metropolitan Transportation Authority is North America's largest transportation network, serving a population of 15.3 million people across a 5,000-square-mile travel area surrounding New York City, Long Island, southeastern New York State, and Connecticut. The MTA network comprises the nation's largest bus fleet and more subway and commuter rail cars than all other U.S. transit systems combined. ...

Who we are

... The MTA is governed by a 23-member Board. Voting members are nominated by the governor, New York City's mayor, and the county executives of the counties serving the MTA's service area. ...


#14 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-10-30 06:17 PM | Reply

@14 ... the county executives of the counties serving the MTA's service area. ...

So, how likely might the county executives in the largely Republican suburban areas served by the MTA look upon Mr Mamdani's free bus ride efforts for NYC?

imo, Mr Mamdani has a hill to climb ...

#15 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-10-30 06:20 PM | Reply

Newt fuggin Gingrich????

Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

#16 | Posted by Angrydad at 2025-10-30 08:20 PM | Reply

"If the American big government socialists do for the United States what Juan Peron and the Argentinian socialists did for their country, every American will rapidly become poorer."

"Juan Pern and Peronism (1946"1955)
Juan Pern was elected president in 1946, establishing a unique populist and authoritarian system known as Peronism.
Justicialism: Pern's political ideology, Justicialismo, blended elements of socialism and fascism but was distinct from both. His government instituted significant social reforms and nationalized industries, but it also controlled labor unions, restricted constitutional liberties, and repressed opposition.
Post-war refuge: After World War II, Pern's government, seeking skilled professionals, provided refuge to numerous Nazi officials fleeing prosecution in Europe. "
www.google.com

Its sad how Newt has to rewrite history to prop up his laughable comparison.

#17 | Posted by Scotty at 2025-10-30 08:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Who the Fk is stupid enough to STILL listen to Nutty Newty? And even post his garbage?

Oh, wait... nevermind.

#18 | Posted by Corky at 2025-10-30 09:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#17 ... "If the American big government socialists do for the United States what Juan Peron and the Argentinian socialists did for their country, every American will rapidly become poorer." ...

Hey, welcome back after a couple-week hiatus.

OK, to your comment, why do Republicans seem to be so concerned that Mr Mamdani might succeed in his promises to voters?

Might it be because it will diminish the power-buying aspect of the oligarchy that Pres Trump has put into place in Washington, D.C.?

And, why the focus upon Argentina, and not, say, a Scandinavian socialist-leaning country?


#19 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-10-30 09:09 PM | Reply

"If the American big government socialists do for the United States what Juan Peron and the Argentinian socialists did for their country, every American will rapidly become poorer."

#17 | Posted by Scotty

The irony is the poverty rate in Argentina DOUBLE under their current administration.

#20 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-10-30 09:22 PM | Reply

every American will rapidly become poorer.
#17 | Posted by Scotty

The bottom 80% will rapidly become poorer.
The top 20% will continue to get richer.

#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-30 09:48 PM | Reply

Trump is hosting CEOs at the newly renovated Rose Garden. (September 2025)
www.aol.com

... On Thursday evening, President Donald Trump will dine with some of the most powerful business leaders in the newly renovated Rose Garden. ...

The dinner is Trump's first official event in the garden since its much-publicized renovation, and it's expected to feature a who's who of CEOs and tech founders. The invite list boasts two dozen business leaders, including Apple CEO Tim Cook, Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg, and OpenAI CEO Sam Altman.

A White House spokesperson confirmed the invitees for the Rose Garden dinner to Business Insider, which was first reported by The Hill.

Musk said later on Thursday that he had been invited to the event, but "unfortunately" could not attend, and that a representative for him would be there. ...



#22 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-10-30 11:02 PM | Reply

We're going to let a ------- moron lecture us on economics.Nah.

#23 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-10-31 10:19 AM | Reply

We're going to let a ------- moron lecture us on economics.Nah.

#23 | Posted by LegallyYourDead

He used to lecture on eggs and hamburgers, and very passionately.

Don't see that anymore.

#24 | Posted by Zed at 2025-10-31 10:54 AM | Reply

"If the American big government socialists do for the United States what Juan Peron and the Argentinian socialists did for their country, every American will rapidly become poorer."

80% of Americans are rapidly be coming poorer right now, under Trump's runaway inflation.

#25 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-31 01:56 PM | Reply

#14

Mamdani is unable to do by himself much of what he wants to do. Tax hikes, for instance, require the consent of the State House and the governor.

As an Econ geek, I'm fairly excited to see how this thing plays out. Socialism is a system where the workers own the means of production. That's OK, but if you own the means of production, you also own the risk that comes with ownership of capital. Democratic Socialism, as best as I can tell, leaves the risk of ownership with capital, but transfers the rewards to labor. This means that capital must willingly accept that risk, knowing that the rewards will be lower. The big question is whether or not capital will be willing to do that. That's the question I want to see answered. Not that New York is representative of the entire US, but the impact of any Policy Mamdani enacts might be representative of potential outcomes elsewhere.

I was always a small-government, low tax libertarian kind of guy, until I moved to Germany. Higher taxes and social programs are OK and can be very beneficial, provided that the government is a good steward of taxpayer dollars. It seems to me that people in the US, and progressives in particular, are very much against any sort of tax reform that would more closely mirror European systems.

#26 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-11-01 07:13 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

...the government is a good steward of taxpayer dollars.
#26 | Posted by madbomber

So why do you seem to support the party that spends like drunken sailors on golden ballrooms and private jets instead of the one that constantly lowers deficits and wants the kind of programs that Germany has?

#27 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2025-11-01 08:38 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"So why do you seem to support the party that spends like drunken sailors on golden ballrooms and private jets instead of the one that constantly lowers deficits and wants the kind of programs that Germany has?"

I don't know what party you seem to think I support. Neither party is even remotely fiscally responsible, although it seems that the Dems have chosen to adopt that mantle. Trump's populist policies are more like Dennis Kucinich or Huey Long than they are a fiscal conservative. And the last fiscally conservative prez this country had was Bill Clinton. That said, the Dems have cast a wide net, that has caught up populists on it's own side. Very unfortunate.

If you want to know what sort of politician I would support, Google Jake Auchincloss. He's a Dem, but depending on what flavor of Dem you are, you'll either love him or hate him.

#28 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-11-01 11:59 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

difference between rwing an leftwing populism

www.idea.int

#29 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-01 12:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#28...

It always seems to me that you defend Trump/MAGA on a regular basis and decry Dems and Liberals personally.

True that the Dems are unethical, but MAGA(I don't say "Republicans" or "Right Wingers" any more) is downright criminal. The problem really is the Two Party system.

#30 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2025-11-01 05:01 PM | Reply

Ralph McTell - Streets Of London (1969)
www.youtube.com

Lyrics excerpt ...

...
It's all a matter of perspective, so when you're down and out, remember, there are people who have seen far worse than what you think is unbearable.

"I cried because I had no shoes, until I met a man who had no feet." -- Helen Keller

Written in 1968, McTell presents a series of characters from the streets of London, all of whom survived WW2.

It's all a matter of perspective, so when you're down and out, remember, there are people who have seen far worse than what you think is unbearable.

 


Have you seen the old man
In the closed-down market
Kicking up the paper
With his worn out shoes?
In his eyes you see no pride
And held loosely at his side
Yesterday's paper telling yesterday's news

So how can you tell me you're lonely
And say for you that the sun don't shine?
Let me take you by the hand and
Lead you through the streets of London
Show you something to make you change your mind

Have you seen the old girl
Who walks the streets of London
Dirt in her hair and her clothes in rags?
She's no time for talking
She just keeps right on walking
Carrying her home in two carrier bags

So how can you tell me you're lonely
And say for you that the sun don't shine?
Let me take you by the hand and
Lead you through the streets of London
Show you something to make you change your mind

In the all night cafe
At a quarter past eleven
Same old man sitting there on his own
Looking at the world
Over the rim of his teacup
Each tea lasts an hour
And he wanders home alone

So how can you tell me you're lonely
Don't say for you that the sun don't shine
Let me take you by the hand and
Lead you through the streets of London
Show you something to make you change your mind

Have you seen the old man
Outside the Seaman's Mission
Memory fading with the medal ribbons that he wears
In our winter city
The rain cries a little pity
For one more forgotten hero
And a world that doesn't care

So how can you tell me you're lonely
And say for you that the sun don't shine?
Let me take you by the hand and
Lead you through the streets of London
Show you something to make you change your mind
...


#31 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-02 01:33 AM | Reply

@#28 ... Trump's populist policies ...

I was mostly in agreement with your comment until I came upon that phrase.

Pres Trump talks populist policies.

But his policies and actions seem to be catering towards his billionaire amigos.

And as many, oh so many, MAGA folk here have said, don't listen to what Pres Trump says, watch what he does.


#32 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-02 01:38 AM | Reply

"It always seems to me that you defend Trump/MAGA on a regular basis and decry Dems and Liberals personally."

I don't know where you stand on the political spectrum, but I think you may be selectively viewing my comments. The only thing I like about Trump is his approach to immigration policy and the deportation of illegal immigrants. Even then, I'm only about half in favor, as this country desperately needs immigrants. From the dudes who mow our lawns to the dudes who will plan the next mission to mars. But it needs to be both legal and organized. There were some incredibly positive aspects of DOGE, including encouraging government agencies to relocate from high-cost areas, such as Washington D.C., to lower cost areas where the taxpayers wouldn't be paying so much.

But other than that, no. I don't like Trump. I don't even really like Republicans, because they refuse to grow a spine and stand up to him. Like I said, if you want a historical analog to Trump, it's probably going to be a Democrat. Huey Long. Dennis Kucinich. Someone like that. And because I don't like Trump doesn't mean I like progressives. Most of them would use Trumpian tactics to achieve a different ideological end state.

#33 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-11-02 03:33 AM | Reply

"But his policies and actions seem to be catering towards his billionaire amigos."

I don't think so. Unless you think that the collapse of the dollar and trade wars are good for billionaires. Those things almost exclusively affect people of means.

#34 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-11-02 03:37 AM | Reply

Those things almost exclusively affect people of means.

They'll just have to make do with 2 dolls instead of 30 dolls.

#35 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-11-02 04:15 AM | Reply

"Unless you think that the collapse of the dollar and trade wars are good for billionaire"

Not all billionaires.
Trump's crony class of billionaires.
As for collapse: George Soros.

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-02 07:32 AM | Reply

"There were some incredibly positive aspects of DOGE, including encouraging government agencies to relocate from high-cost areas, such as Washington D.C., to lower cost areas where the taxpayers wouldn't be paying so much."

LOL

As either a percentage or raw dollar amount, how much do you think that saves you on your taxes?

Moves like that are usually backdoor layoffs anyway. That's the savings.

#37 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-02 07:34 AM | Reply

Like I said, if you want a historical analog to Trump, it's probably going to be a Democrat. Huey Long. Dennis Kucinich.

LOL. Neither of those two would dismantle social services or build a palace onto the White House.

About the only way "Democrat" works is the pre civil rights racism that Trump is imposing by undoing VRA, etc.

#38 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-02 07:38 AM | Reply

Coupla three things:

New Mexico is the first state in the nation to offer universal child care: www.governor.state.nm.us

What are Zohran Mamdani's plans? www.zohranfornyc.com

Barack Obama is campaigning for ex-CIA officer Abigail Spanberger in VA and for Mikie Sherrill in NJ, but NOT Zohran Mamdani in neighboring NYC. Hmph: apnews.com

Despite the AIPAC Islamophobic mud-slinging at Zohran Mamdani and GOP attempts to sabotage his campaign, like accusing Zohran of accepting foreign donations when American citizens overseas are allowed to remit money to the US, the soft-spoken Muslim upstart still holds a lead over sexual predator Andrew Cuomo, the Judas Iscariot of the Democratic Party: www.nytimes.com

The thoroughly revolting ex-NYS governor was fortunate not to have been prosecuted for his blasphemies, like lying about COVID casualties which forced him to return his TV Emmy Award or sexually harassing women: ag.ny.gov

#39 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-11-02 08:52 AM | Reply

...use Trumpian tactics to achieve a different ideological end state.
#33 | Posted by madbomber

If that is so, then why haven't they? And personally, I would rather the Dems use these tactics to achieve their goals, universal healthcare, better social services and education, a more inclusive society, etc. than the downright evil goals of MAGA.
That is really one of the things I don't understand about King Dotard's megalomaniac personality. He should be spending like crazy on stuff that will benefit everyone like he is on BS. If he enacted universal healthcare or daycare. Hell, even just handing out checks like he did the first time, folks would love him. He obviously doesn't care about deficits and such.

#40 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2025-11-02 09:24 AM | Reply

use Trumpian tactics to achieve a different ideological end state.
#33 | Posted by madbomber

When you deal entirely in hypotheticals, you're really not having a conversation about reality any more.

It's an extremely common tactic on the right.

They reinforce the world view that they are victims, by imagining scenarios where they are the victim.

It also reflects the fact that MadBomber couldn't tell you what Trump's ideological end state looks like to begin with.

But he's sure the other side would do just as much as Trump is doing to get there.

It's a "both sides" thing, just hiding behind layers of obfuscation.

#41 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-02 10:02 AM | Reply

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