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U.S. President Donald Trump on Monday unveiled a $12 billion aid package for American farmers, the latest government effort to shore up a key political constituency hurt by the financial fallout from his trade policies.

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President Trump is planning a $12 billion farm aid package, according to a White House official -- a boost to farmers who have struggled to sell their crops while getting hit by rising costs after the president raised tariffs on China as part of a broader trade war. https://to.pbs.org/4ptNxEm

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-- PBS News (@pbsnews.org) Dec 8, 2025 at 2:32 PM

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What about everyone else hit by his tariffs? He's royally f-ed up our economy.

#1 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-12-08 04:06 PM | Reply

This twelve billion dollar handout is a small price to pay to own the libs!

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-08 04:20 PM | Reply

If Democrats wanted to do this, Republicans would demand commensurate spending cuts.

When do we start clawing back the trillions in tax giveaways?

#3 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-12-08 04:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Just a guess:

This handout favors mega corporations, and offers little for small businesses.

So the net effect is to give the mega corporatios

Or should I say MAGA corporations, see what I did there!

It gives the mega corps free taxpayer money to buy up the already severely pressured mom and pop farms.

Just a guess.

#4 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-08 04:23 PM | Reply

"Argh! Socialism sucks! Gargh! Stop handing out federal money to losers, poor people or sick children! Blargh!"

#5 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-12-08 04:24 PM | Reply

When do we start clawing back the trillions in tax giveaways?

#3 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-12-08 04:23 PM | Reply | Flag: Side-splitting

Clawing back our trillions from the oligarchs that for decades Republicans have been handing them hand over fist?


#6 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-12-08 04:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Its not a --------- bribe it is welfare pure and simple

thanks magat scum.

#7 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-12-08 04:47 PM | Reply

BTW where the f is congress on this? President Piggy can just hand out money?
Thanks magat scum for destroying our country.

#8 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-12-08 04:50 PM | Reply

Kneel before your MASTER.

#9 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-12-08 05:08 PM | Reply

Well, we see where American Farmers rank alongside, oh, say, Argentina.

Not good.

#10 | Posted by Corky at 2025-12-08 05:24 PM | Reply

-BTW where the f is congress on this?

I would imagine they have to approve it.....but this article doesn't even mention that.

Maybe because it's highly likely the bailout will be approved.

#11 | Posted by eberly at 2025-12-08 05:29 PM | Reply

China Curb-Stomps Dotard as its trade surplus tops $1 trillion

apnews.com

Trump tweets: 'Trade wars are good, and easy to win'

www.reuters.com

#12 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-12-08 10:10 PM | Reply

The article fails to mention he is planning to hike tariffs on 50% of their fertilizer inputs to farm.Taking and giving with the same hand is a Trump specialty.He says he is punishing Canada but US farmers pay the expense.

#13 | Posted by Scotty at 2025-12-08 11:01 PM | Reply

I suspect that most of the $12 billion (so called) bailout is going into the coffers of the corporate farms, who will simply use the money to buy up small farms for pennies on the dollar.

#14 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2025-12-09 11:06 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#14

Bingo!

We have a Winner!

#15 | Posted by Corky at 2025-12-09 11:19 AM | Reply

And these f*&^ing idiots will take this soshulizm because it benefits them while falling back in line behind the idiot who's burning their lives down.

They won't change a thing.

#16 | Posted by jpw at 2025-12-09 11:43 AM | Reply

Republican farmers who shamelessly accept these socialist handouts are merely hypocrites without scruple or self-respect: static.politico.com

And for decades, the children of white farmers had colleges and programs just for them, like the Land Grant Colleges or agricultural institutes. Not many of those schools in Harlem or Detroit.

#17 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-12-09 12:19 PM | Reply

-Not many of those schools in Harlem or Detroit.

Agriculture is a very large industry and the lifeblood of many States where you find Land Grant Colleges.

People in those states cared enough to get these Land Grant colleges going....and today those Universities thrive in the ag sector with their programs.

And those Universities receive millions and millions every year from donors in that sector. It's a big focus with their philanthropy.

You're gonna ---- on that because nobody gives a ---- about helping Harlem or Detroit (which isn't entirely true, BTW)?

#18 | Posted by eberly at 2025-12-09 12:25 PM | Reply

-Republican farmers who shamelessly accept these socialist handouts are merely hypocrites without scruple or self-respect

So, their scruples, self-respect, and hypocrisy...are all fine and dandy if they just switch parties.

Right?

#19 | Posted by eberly at 2025-12-09 12:27 PM | Reply

So, their scruples, self-respect, and hypocrisy...are all fine and dandy if they just switch parties.
Right?

#19 | Posted by eberly

Nope. If they were part of the other party they wouldn't whine about soshulizm until it's them with their hand out and they wouldn't have voted to destroy our Republic like an idiot.

#20 | Posted by jpw at 2025-12-09 12:41 PM | Reply

-If they were part of the other party they wouldn't whine about soshulizm until it's them with their hand out and they wouldn't have voted to destroy our Republic like an idiot.

So again....if they just vote democrats....all the other sins are washed away.

#21 | Posted by eberly at 2025-12-09 12:54 PM | Reply

If the mush-brained orange pedo gives himself an "A-plus-plus-plus-plus-plus'"on the economy, why is another bailout necessary?

thehill.com

#22 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-12-09 01:00 PM | Reply

And an "A-plus-plus-plus-plus-plus" on his recent MRI.

#23 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-12-09 01:13 PM | Reply

So again....if they just vote democrats....all the other sins are washed away.

#21 | Posted by eberly

I'm going to say this slowly...

The.

Sins.

Wouldn't.

Exist.

Get it?

#24 | Posted by jpw at 2025-12-09 01:26 PM | Reply

So a person can act a certain way and whether or not the action is good or bad is wholly dependent on how they vote. Gotta love JPW's situational ethics.

#25 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-12-09 01:48 PM | Reply

24

You're just proving you're no different than any hypocrite who bitch and moan about the evils of socialism situationally.

Here you are on this thread bitching about socialism that benefits farmers because they voted for the guy who is dispensing the socialism to them.

These farmers, who are lifelong republicans who weren't likely to stop supporting a republican, are hypocrites for sure. As a lifelong republican, of course they rail on about socialism....but let's be honest...it's socialism that's attached to liberalism. That's what makes it socialism to them.

Farm aid and subsidies? That's not socialism to them.

And how is that different from the tens of millions of voters who are members of unions, receiving some entitlement such as SS or medicare, NOT the same brand of hypocrite.

you could just grow the fuck up and stop whining about it.

JFC. It's obvious what this is really about.......that this industry won't stop their loyalty to the GOP at all levels despite this whole tariff disaster.

And it pisses you off.

#26 | Posted by eberly at 2025-12-09 02:16 PM | Reply

" Farm aid and subsidies? That's not socialism to them."

Must be convenient, to lie to themselves like that.

Is it a coping mechanism?

#27 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-12-09 02:21 PM | Reply

-Must be convenient, to lie to themselves like that.

convience....yeah, that's a good way to put it.

union members, public employees including teachers, law enforcement, etc.....getting those groups to vote for republicans is a huge difference makers come election day, don't you think?

#28 | Posted by eberly at 2025-12-09 02:27 PM | Reply

sorry.....convenience...

#29 | Posted by eberly at 2025-12-09 02:28 PM | Reply

Here you are on this thread bitching about socialism that benefits farmers because they voted for the guy who is dispensing the socialism to them.

NO, I didn't. I pointed out that these idiots will predictably ignore the soshulizm that benefits them and continue supporting the s*&^stain they voted for that's making it necessary.

This isn't hard yet you and ballwasher can't seem to wrap your three functional neurons around it.

And it pisses you off.

#26 | Posted by eberly

Well gee, let's see. People are so stupid they'll vote for a guy who tanked their industry last time, he tanks it again and they'll continue to support him because their loyalty is so easily bought.

Meanwhile, the rest of us bear the brunt of that bulls*&^.

If you're not pissed off you're stupider than the idiot farmers and every other dumbf*&^ Trump supporter who can't put down the fauxrage crack pipe.

#30 | Posted by jpw at 2025-12-09 02:32 PM | Reply

-Meanwhile, the rest of us bear the brunt of that bulls*&^.

That's right.

If the score is never in your favor....then maybe, you should stop keeping score.

You're just crying like a pussy because you didn't get what you wanted.

"fauxrage crack pipe."

LOL....you're on a role today.

#31 | Posted by eberly at 2025-12-09 02:37 PM | Reply

" getting those groups to vote for republicans is a huge difference makers come election day, don't you think?"

Well, if that doesn't justify self-delusion, what does?

#32 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-12-09 02:51 PM | Reply

The message is that if you're going to be a socialist, at least vote like one should?

Let's prioritize what you want...

vote democrat
if not, then at least not act like a socialist
or, STFU on socialism if you're going to vote for the GOP
or....vote democrat and then you can whine about anything and everything being done to you.

I grew up on a farm in a small town dominated by......farmers.

When Jimmy Carter was president, the local farmers were so pissed, it was incredible. inflation, energy prices, grain prices, etc...you name it.

At the same time, they accepted any and all subsidies from the state and federal government and railed on and on about the goddam moochers who depend on them.

This has never been different. President after president...congress after congress......all the same.

Farmers get all kinds of help at the state and county level as well. property taxes, sales tax on fuel, work comp exemption, the list is very long.

Farmers were raised to expect such things. Why? Because they feed the world and they are vital to the local community. It's what they were taught, it's what their parents were taught. so on and so on....

So yeah....I'm laughing at these revelations that farmers are fu##ing idiots who vote the way they do.

They've been doing this for a long long long time.

#33 | Posted by eberly at 2025-12-09 02:56 PM | Reply

I'm laughing at these revelations that farmers are fu##ing idiots who vote the way they do.
They've been doing this for a long long long time.
#33 | Posted by eberly

Revelation?
Farmers have been dependent on Federal largesse longer than we've been alive.
Voting against their own interests simply underscores that they are idiots.

"Farmers were raised to expect such things. Why? Because they feed the world and they are vital to the local community. It's what they were taught, it's what their parents were taught. so on and so on...."

Yeah. Propaganda works. You were supposed to learn that, and learn how to see through it, when you left the farm and went to college.

#34 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-09 03:17 PM | Reply

You're just crying like a pussy because you didn't get what you wanted.

What do you think I wanted? Wealth? Riches? Your wife feeding me grapes?

LOL....you're on a role today.

#31 | Posted by eberly

Otherwise known as a roll.

#35 | Posted by jpw at 2025-12-09 03:24 PM | Reply

" What do you think I wanted?"

Several dicks at the truck stop.

#36 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-12-09 03:31 PM | Reply

35

yet another zinger!!

Good catch.

-What do you think I wanted? Wealth? Riches? Your wife feeding me grapes?

Good question.....Any of those coming your way if Harris had won? Of course not.

which is why maybe you should stop crying about the score. You're always losing anyway.

Nobody can seem to wrap their arms around the fact that you and I and everyone else here is in the same boat.

Same boat. A boat with Trump as the captain. A captain that neither of us voted for. Driving us into an iceberg or some other peril.

Why are you crying at the scoreboard and the points the farmers scored for the other team all the fucking time?

#37 | Posted by eberly at 2025-12-09 03:34 PM | Reply

Farmers were raised to expect such things. Why? Because they feed the world and they are vital to the local community. It's what they were taught, it's what their parents were taught. so on and so on....
#33 | Posted by eberly

Well that certainly explains why they're helpless, self-infatuated Divas, a bunch of Paris Hiltons on their tricked-out riding mowers.

But it doesn't explain why you're that way.

#38 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-09 03:35 PM | Reply

Same boat. A boat with Trump as the captain. A captain that neither of us voted for. Driving us into an iceberg or some other peril.
#37 | Posted by eberly

The situation we're all in has exactly two important political features:
1. Republicans are the only ones who can do anything about it.
2. Republicans aren't going to do anything about it.

#39 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-09 03:39 PM | Reply

Farmer's political views........old news

The kid's on the Drudge Retort and their knowledge of farmer's political views?.........very new news.

I know they'll pretend they've always known this but it's 100% obvious that's not true. They've never understood a damn thing about the farming community, the agriculture community in general, and how it impacts many many communities around the country, in red states, blue states, purple states, etc. How it impacts policy in every state house and in DC.

Farmers are big big babies much of the time. The truly honest ones know it but aren't going to tell the world they know it.

Yeah, it's a head scratcher why every trade association and lobbyist never advised any of them to reconsider voting for or supporting Trump.

#40 | Posted by eberly at 2025-12-09 03:42 PM | Reply

"Farmers are big big babies much of the time"

Indeed.
You're doing a great job of showing why they lean so heavily Republican.
You're also leading by example quite a bit, with your "farm roots."
I'm not sure you realize how good a job you're doing.

#41 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-09 03:45 PM | Reply

Yeah, it's a head scratcher why every trade association and lobbyist never advised any of them to reconsider voting for or supporting Trump.
#40 | Posted by eberly

I know!
Why didn't someone think of that?

The first modern Farmer"Labor Party in the United States emerged in Minnesota in 1918. The American entry into World War I caused agricultural prices and workers' wages to fall, while retail prices rose sharply during the war years. Consequently, farmers and workers made common cause in the political sphere to redress their grievances.

The party dissolved in 1936 on a federal level with the Minnesota Farmer"Labor Party surviving on the state level until 1944, when it merged with the local affiliate of the Democratic Party; the resulting merger, the Minnesota Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party, still exists today.[15]
en.wikipedia.org

#42 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-09 03:47 PM | Reply

Good question.....Any of those coming your way if Harris had won? Of course not.

Except none of that is what I wanted.

I wanted our flawed by still functional system to be fixed by people acting in good faith so my sons could inherit a world where they had a chance to prosper and live in peace like I was able to.

Harris would have been status quo. Nothing for me beyond a continuation of what was already working pretty well.

Instead, we got a sociopathic narcissist who is burning it all down to rule over the ashes.

Why are you crying at the scoreboard and the points the farmers scored for the other team all the fucking time?
#37 | Posted by eberly

Because they'll ignore the a*& f*&^ing they took from Trump because he paid them and continue supporting our descent to failed state status.

I get what you're saying quite fine. You don't seem to get it's not about the past actions so much as the continuation of those past actions to our further detriment.

The core of this, if you really distill it down, is the inability or refusal of enough of our electorate to learn from past mistakes.

#43 | Posted by jpw at 2025-12-09 03:50 PM | Reply

"These rich farmlands have been handed down to my white family generation after generation while Blacks, migrants, sharecroppers, and Mexicans got paid peanuts making us rich. That's why they don't own land like us white folks. And that's why I vote Republican every year and expect my white privilege handout, which ain't socialism! Got that, Mr Big City fancy-pants lib-rul!"


#44 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-12-09 03:53 PM | Reply

-Harris would have been status quo. Nothing for me beyond a continuation of what was already working pretty well.

I think you'd find a lot of folks on the left would strongly disagree with you.

I tend to agree with you that it was working pretty well but I've been attacking consistently over the past 20 years on this site for "whistling past the graveyard" and ignoring all the misery and mayhem occurring everywhere.

But I'm white, rich, etc...so I'm insulated to such pain and misery and can't relate. Oh, and a racist as well, I suppose.

but surely you noticed the notion that everything went to hell didn't start with Trump. It didn't end when we elected Biden, Obama, Clinton, etc. either.

#45 | Posted by eberly at 2025-12-09 03:57 PM | Reply

"the inability or refusal of enough of our electorate to learn from past mistakes."

Welcome to the USA

#46 | Posted by eberly at 2025-12-09 03:57 PM | Reply

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