"the rich"

roughly defined by most here as anyone who has more money than themselves

but it's not about envy...........LOL

"anyone who steals"

exactly. anybody who does better than you.

They HAD to have stole it

-You know who and what I'm speaking about.

Yes I do. Anybody who does better than you.....oh, another qualifier..... they don't vote the way you want.

There you go....make a Nazi reference which is your way of crying about your ------ lot in life.

I hope you find a better neighborhood more suitable to your liking.

It's a free country. You should live where you want

Just like your neighbors do now.

-Actually, and at the moment, very few people do better than I do.

doesn't matter. Your definition is the same.

And you've been bitching about the ghetto you've been living in for some time now....so selling anybody on your financial success is a stretch, little fella.

IOW, pick your lies a little more carefully.

-Perfectly legit considering how well the current Republican Admin fits the dictionary definition of Fascism.

he used to describe anybody with more money than him.

He's had multiple opportunities to define "the rich" to clarify what he means

He chose "Nazi" to define it.

yes.....very legit.

"You thought economic ghetto?
I assumed moral ghetto."

You can make the distinction between the 2 if you'd like

He's afraid of coming out of his house. He neighbors are very dangerous.

If I pose that as a description of a neighborhood....yes, I believe "ghetto" would be used to describe it.

I love these exchanges where Danforth and others know Zed can't really make a point, can't argue nor stay on point.

So they have to rescue him.

cancelling the national debt by confiscation is serious plan? Anybody want to argue it? If so, then define who we would take it from.

The wealthy has likely never had as much control or influence on all levels of government.....how do you suppose we would take their money?

OH, and again....who are we talking about?

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no. never even seen anybody attempt to make the distinction until a few minutes ago.

examples?

"most lucid posters,"

He's entertaining.....and I realize you expect him to viewed in that light and it's all humor.

and it mostly is......until he's asked a question....then he ----- his pants with his "lucid" skills. LOL

He's not even taken a punch really and yet he's huffing and puffing in the corner while you 2 try to land one

-That's your shortcoming, not his.

You live to educate folks here so get to it.

-At this point, it seems like you can't make the distinction at all.

I just told you in the English language I can't make the distinction.

examples?

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WTF does that mean?

NO........I can get out a map of the US, zoom in on dozens and dozens of actual ghettos......we'll call them "economic" ghettos if that makes you feel better.

Why don't you do the same, and locate one that's a "moral" ghetto but not an economic one?

You are suggesting Zed lives in a moral ghetto but not an economic one. Is that your argument? You don't exactly know where he lives other than Texas, right?

This is fun, BTW.

-Frankly, I thought you were more intelligent.

I didn't say it was Zed's shortcoming. Like usual, you come to his rescue and he clams right up.

I realize most folks here believe they have thicker skin than they actually do.

But they shouldn't admit it quite so easily....

Geez......

Can Zed muster up the courage to post something?

So far what we can get out of him is anybody who has done better than him is a Nazi.

I know trust fund babies who's never worked, nor taken a risk, nor started from the bottom in their life....and in the end, haven't managed to accomplish much at all.

Pretty worthless, IMO.

But....Nazi's? Honestly, I don't think they've given the effort to emulate Nazi behavior.

Danforth, if you're just going to deflect because you are unable to go further with your argument then just say so.

Post examples of moral but not economic ghettos. Maybe a zip code?

If you're just talking about the reddest counties or zip codes in the country then just say so.

If that's not what you mean then.....well just say so.

-One can be financially wealthy, but morally bankrupt.

I know that. Thanks for the 411....LOL

but that's not the argument.....you said there are moral ghettos.....but you can't seem to take it any further.

sand......with Danforth it's sand....with Zed, it's Nazi or spiders...he loves to reference spiders

with corky....it's beverly.

-Then I guess you're just a Nazi.

"How lucid and insightful"

-corkyforth

okay....so the deflections won't stop. which is fine.

Let's back up.

Zed believes his neighbors want to harm/kill him. It's dangerous for him to live there.

I call that a ghetto.

If it's not a ghetto then suggest another term or do you want to stick with "moral ghetto" but not an economic one

Is that where Zed lives?

JFC, you don't even require Zed to participate in a conversation about...........Zed.

The mental health of some here...............wow, really suspect.

-I have the same mentality as my Depression Era forebearers:

And you believe that makes you special? That you have depression era forebearers?

You're not special, Zed.

Especially when the Nazis are about.

The Nazi's killed my great uncle in France when my mom and grandmother were literally dirt poor.

What did the Nazi's do to your forebearers?

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Oh good.....back to the comedy. That's your calling, Zed. nobody knows WTF you're talking about and they don't really believe you (but they'll pretend they do just to argue with me) but they love who you are referencing and the style of your posts.

And that's great. sincerely....it is.

And maybe it's a real place that's somewhat accurate as you describe.

-It's an upper-class neighborhood

"Do you mean moral or economic??"

-Danforth

-It's an upper-class neighborhood where many people have chosen to be both mean and crazy.

So......$750K to $1M valued homes with folks running around with buckets on their heads and carrying firearms who threaten you?

I'd love to see this place. Any chance you could tell where it is?

-I'm still stunned you can't tell the difference.

And I'm NOT stunned you can't find a single example.

You threw in the towel with that zip code. You wanted to make the distinction but can't give a single specific reference

Then why use that argument?

-Stop trying to beat me into the ground.

All I asked for was a definition of "the rich" and apparently that was too much for you.

You hadn't put even that much thought into it. Like everyone else here you gave up and begged to not be taken seriously.

2 moral ghettos.

where zed lives (confidential and at his word entirely)
where Donald Trump lives

that's it?

yeah.....serious argument to be sure.

The sandnazi brothers...I love it.

and I can't wait to ---- up every argument on this place every time we discuss economics by inserting "moral" into it to replace "economic"

thanks for that, Sandforth.

I have no trouble believing zed lives in a dangerous neighborhood in Texas.

Fair enough?

-Why are you pretending these areas don't/can't exist?

fair enough....to humor you I'll go along........I want to find a neighborhood that has very nice homes, good schools, shopping restaurants, etc...all the things folks who have a lot to spend on a home look for.

But I also want the neighborhood to be a moral ghetto.

Can I have both? moral ghetto AND upper class/wealthy?

zillow.com........find it for me.

-What a riot, coming from someone who has to pretend he's a Republican in his home town.

funny thing on a walk this morning and I saw more signs of the democratic party challenger to a senate seat than of the incumbent. In fact, I saw no signs for the incumbent. only the challenger.

-Are you still pretending to be a Republican in your hometown for your own business and safety reasons?

You're gonna assign Zed's safety issues to me?

how off the rails can you get?

I have the very neighbors Zed believes he has. wealthy folks with a huge arsenal of firearms. extremely right wing.

There is no business nor safety issues where I live.

-It's not necessary to define "rich".

in a conversation about confiscation of wealth from "the rich".....yes, it is necessary unless it's just a joke.

which is what everything knows it is. a joke

not serious. It's not like anybody believes the democratic party would entertain any such notion.

are....not is.

never seen a bucket on anybody's head nor anybody carrying a firearm either.

and I'm sure I have neighbors who have CC permits.

still safe here.....

now I can take to you actual unsafe neighborhoods.

where you'll see a massive crossover of both economic and moral deficiencies.

they do tend to have a correlation.

-What do your rich white friends want with huge arsenals?

i know you see me as very friendly and inviting in real life.

I didn't say "friends" just neighbors.

but whatever.....owning guns is equivalent to a moral ghetto?

-That's because they think you're a Republican.

There are known active democrats in my neighborhood. they have signs up at every election. many are natives to this town....prominent families.

their consequence? probably don't get invited to all the parties.

but that's it. no safety issues.

You need so badly to believe zed's neighborhood is as he describes you're willing to assign it to me.

this place is awesome.........zed's an influential person. He can whip up a pitcher of kool-aid and it gets drank down pretty fast.

-I see people carrying guns into businesses past large signs stating that you can't carry guns here.
Explanation?

I wasn't clear earlier?

you live in a -------- or you're lying.....that's the explanation.

sounds awfully like a -------- to all of us, zed .

-Ever wonder why it's taken so long for Trump to be correctly identified as being crazy?

by whom?

it didn't take me nor you long to diagnose him as such.

and it's the same folks who still can't identify him as such.

IOW, either you figured it out immediately or.....never.

or did you just admit you didn't really think he was this way until more recently?

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it's a term made up about an hour ago or so in an effort to give Zed mouth to mouth.

would everyone just prefer I simply plonk zed and/or simply ignore him?

I'll consider it on one condition..........

-Not a risk you're willing to take, right?

man, you're quite obsessed with my well-being, aren't you?

I don't do business locally. I have a very very specialized niche. nobody in my neighborhood matters to me in a business sense.

and I'm friends with whom I want to be friends with.

And none of that is the issue.

My safety is not in jeopardy. nor are the people who are comfortable being liberal democrats in my neighborhood.

Deep down you know it's true.

I don't know what kind of contract you guys signed with Zed to protect him but he must have some dirt on you guys or something.

been fun....for me.

I love how corky accuses me of making it personal when zed mentioned his neighborhood has hundreds of times, and danforth is obsessed with my neighborhood and community and of course...corky drags my wife into it.

but I made it personal.

got it.

my offer still stands......I'll leave zed alone.....but it comes with a condition.

see you all later.......

-And deep down you know your life would change if you publicly took a knee the next time the Star-Spangled Banner is played

You must believe it'll happen in Zed's neighborhood because he told you so

But you're dead wrong in mine.

It would be dimmed upon but my safety would never never never be in jeopardy.

Maybe it's because nobody has the balls to ---- with me.

Or maybe it's because nobody's that willing.

-A moral ghetto is an isolated social or intellectual environment where people only interact with others who share the exact same values, beliefs, or moral codes, shutting out outside perspectives.

That sounds like a place you and Zed can only wish you could find and live.

You realize, of course, that you and Z are in the top 20% of most intolerant people here.

-You probably wouldn't notice until the party invites dried up.

We were talking about my life being in jeopardy, not being invited to parties.

You know, what Zed was claiming he has exposure to

But you moved on from that because you never believed it

-making up the phrase.

I knew it existed. But you'll never be able to point to an actual neighborhood that you described.

Neither Will Zed.

-the salient part?

The salient part was included. Your intolerance.

You don't get to make up excuses for being a racist or a Nazi, do you? Of course not. But you get a make up an excuse to be intolerant?

Nobody buys it.

Oh, you're in the same club, clownie. Tolerant lefies have all but completely abandoned this place.

Fine, I'm mean for picking on Zed

but everything else I've posted about my neighborhood and community is 100% accurate.

If you want to believe him and call me a liar, that's your right. Danforth has already joined that club.

what all of them are afraid to do is admit what they really mean when they say "moral ghetto".

They simply mean a neighborhood comprised of red voters.

They could have defined it as such 100 posts ago.

But no......too -----------. All of them.

But Zed has suffered long enough living in a POS neighborhood where his life is in danger.

He should move on.

LOL

-Sure you did. Just like Bellringer.

So that's twice you called me a liar on this thread?

Holy cow. Okay. Free country.

-I've lost friends to QAnon

Lost? They're dead or not your friends anymore?

-So the California Coastline is a "moral ghetto"?

I have doubts Danforth keeps trotting that term out.

He brought it out for a very poor reason, IMO

Zed generates a fair amount of sympathy here.

It's not fair to say it's a defense because it's been done so goddam poorly.

Nobody here wants to define "rich" because they know the Democratic Party will not touch an idea like this ... ..and because they don't want to admit they want to stick it to anybody better off than themselves.

And absolutely nobody here believes zed lives in a really nice neighborhood yet it's very very dangerous for him.

I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm just saying nobody believes zed at all.

I googled the term as I was admitting I wasn't familiar with it.

Not that it matters really.

Don't know what that means.

You haven't a clue how to apply it.

So for all intents and purposes there are no physical ghettos.

Except zeds neighborhood and mine.

And 1600 Penn.

Until you find another

But why are you still talking to me?

I'm a liar. Multiple lies told by me.

-hey eberly, have you lost any friends to politics IRL? Just curious.

I believe I've not been invited to some functions, events, parties due to politics.

But they weren't friends....so it's no loss.

-FFS, you didn't know the concept existed.

Is this some ------ up way to accuse me of not being aware there are immoral people in the world?

how deluded can some people get? You have to work at it to get this dumb.

When people are truly suffering from TDS, they have to take it out on someone.

-I'll go back to my central question: generally speaking, are morals and wealth complementary, or inverse?

when did you ask anything like that?

-Post #65.

thank you.

not sure why you give a shit what I think about the relationship between morals and wealth.

If I don't give you the answer you need, I'm a liar.

It's not possible you care about my answer anyway so I'll reverse it and ask you the same question.

complementary or inverse?

and what's a rough definition of "wealth"?

"Jesus said"

"according to Balzac"

LOL

I'm interrupting your pity party.

please continue

-So...unfamiliar with Balzac as well?

Nope. I know of him and the quote.

If I wanted a quote I would have asked for one.

I asked your belief and you danced around it by quoting Balzac.

Again, continue with your TDS fueled pity party.

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you're right. I should view it as the comedy it is.

At least the attempt at comedy. Zed just wants the laughs and knows it. It's why he shits his pants when asked to comment on topic.

and then comes the pity police to deflect, obfuscate, and then insert terms they hope will simply shoo others away.

Let's stop with the futile attempts to talk substance and get back to spiders and wearing buckets on our heads and going to church.

-Or do you actually believe I referenced it because I disagree?

I think you did it to be deliberately cryptic and non-specific. Most here would simply just accuse you of being nothing more than an asshole.

but it's more than that, IMO.

so....how bad of a person are you? Zed already admitted to being very successful....so he must have an awful opinion of himself as well. His self-loathing is obvious from his posts as well

Is that what I'm reading here? self-loathing for your success?

or maybe you don't consider yourself wealthy?