The Supreme Court decided on Friday that cities can enforce bans on homeless people sleeping outdoors, even in West Coast areas where shelter space is lacking.
Instead of, you know, providing them with resources and housing [...] #15 | Posted by truthhurts
"S.F. spent millions to shelter homeless in hotels. These are the disastrous results" www.sfchronicle.com
"The city of San Francisco believes it may need to pay up to $26 million for damage and lost revenue to hotels that homeless residents caused during the pandemic, as it attempts to resolve claims from the hotels that agreed to participate in the city's shelter-in-place program." www.sfchronicle.com
But yes, by all means, let's keep shoveling resources at people who believe they live in a consequence-free zone.
Like I said, you're all welcome to roll out the red carpet for these fine individuals in your communities. SCOTUS didn't prohibit anyone from playing a sucker.
Of course they do. They have rooves over their heads. They got theirs. Screw everyone that doesn't. #32 | Posted by LauraMohr
You act like those roofs dropped out of the sky and no one had to work to earn it. Meanwhile we have millions sneaking into this country a year illegally for the opportunity to work. I too would like to shoot up with drugs every day, hang out, drain societal resources, and expect everyone else to pay my way.
[...] instead let's fine someone for sleeping on a bench like that will accomplish something. #33 | Posted by truthhurts
And then they will get jail for repeating. And then they will have to decide whether to make changes in their life or not.
Should people receive help to get off the street? Absolutely, but when a single city is spending almost $700 million a year on homeless services (www.sfchronicle.com) and still has 10,000+ homeless on the street, there's more going on. Maybe take into account human nature that people will always choose the path of least resistance when there's free money to be had.
Some of you folks here have never hit on hard times and it shows in your disgustingly privileged attitudes.
#10 | POSTED BY QCP
Those people aren't on "hard times", they choose to live away from government support. Plenty of studies claiming they are
Why should they have privilege, and ruin parks, sidewalks, sleep in front of businesses? Talk about disgusting privilege.
Criminalizing the act of sleeping does absolutely nothing to solve the problem.
~ TruthLies
This is such a lie. The act of sleeping isn't criminalized, it's setting up a tent in the middle of a park, or sidewalk in front of a business.
You're hyper ventilating is why Lumpers are collapsing today, you can't see the truth and see the nuance in an argument.
The resources should be going towards cheap, sustainable housing on public land with simple basic utilities and assistance be it medical, psychiatric or to assist with drug addiction.
You don't accept what Europe does about drug addition. I know this because Lumpers in America only want to decriminalize drugs, nothing to do with hard time, mandatory addiction rehab.
Finally control the border, and increase the costs of drug costs. Keeping the price of drugs high means less drug addicts.
However,arresteesreacted strongly to cocaine prices, decreasing their consumption when prices were high and increasing their consumption when prices were low.
When prices were high, they reduced their consumption, and they did the opposite when prices were low, but this relationship was statistically significant only at the 10 percent level.
The prevalence of methamphetamine use, both by heavy and occasional users, was greatest when prices were low and least when prices were high.
www.ojp.gov
A border that is porous allows importation of an incredible amount of drugs. Stop this flow and help addicts.
@#38 ... what Europe does about drug addition ...
What does Europe do about drug addiction?
European Drug Report 2024: Trends and Developments
www.emcdda.europa.eu
... The European Drug Report 2024: Trends and Developments presents the EMCDDA's latest analysis of the drug situation in Europe. Focusing on illicit drug use, related harms and drug supply, the report provides a comprehensive set of national data across these themes, as well as on specialist drug treatment and key harm reduction intervention. ...
Drug supply, production and precursors
Analysis of the supply-related indicators for commonly used illicit drugs in the European Union suggests that availability remains high across all substance types. On this page, you can find an overview of drug supply in Europe based on the latest data, supported by the latest time trends in drug seizures and drug law offences, together with 2022 data on drug production and precursor seizures. ...
Is your current alias saying that Europe writes reports about drug addictions?
@#39 ... The permanent solution is to get the homeless into involuntary drug and alcohol rehab programs and forcing the mentally ill into institutions. ...
Why does your current alias seem to assume that those are the reasons for homelessness?
And then there's this...
How Reagan's Decision to Close Mental Institutions Led to the Homelessness Crisis (April 2023)
obrag.org
... As a psychologist who began practicing nearly 40 years ago, I've seen a significant shift in the care of the mentally ill since the mid-1980s " and it hasn't been for the better.
After the deinstitutionalization movement began in California in the 1960s, many state mental health hospitals closed, forcing many folks who needed a lot of care onto the streets.
Without those facilities, many mentally ill people ended up in jails and prisons which are not set up to provide safe, compassionate care for brain illnesses. But in 1981, when President d Reagan deinstitutionalized the mentally ill and emptied the psychiatric hospitals into so-called "community" clinics, the problem got worse.
Most of those who were deinstitutionalized from the nation's public psychiatric hospitals were severely mentally ill. Between 50 percent and 60 percent were diagnosed with schizophrenia. The fact that many of these people struggled with various forms of brain dysfunction was not recognized back then. With so many advances in brain science, experts now know that we need to be able to coordinate care in residential facilities, especially if we are housing people at $4,000 per day in a local medical hospital. ...
Umm you become a junkie because you have mental health problems. Why would anyone in their right mind choose to be a junkie? Reminds me of a joke. Anyone who think they need therapy needs to get their head examined! #54 | Posted by donnerboy
While some addicts start off using drugs to self-medicate for mental illnesses, that's not always the case. I'm not going to list all of the references, but here's one showing the correlation: NIDA. And addiction can cause mental illness (see meth psychosis, sweet delicious meth).
People don't usually choose to be a junkie, just like people don't set out to become alcoholics. They start out for the buzz and eventually they need it just to function. And then it's all they care about, to the point that living on the street means nothing to them.
This ruling now gives municipalities another tool to compel addicts to get help. Or at the very least, allows the rest of us to stop having to live with their preferred addict lifestyle.
@#66 ... but society most definitely should consider how far that same individual can fall ...
And, when an individual falls to the point of homeless, should society just bulldoze that person's home?
Wheeling begins to bulldoze homeless camps (January 2024)
www.wtrf.com
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