Sunday, September 22, 2024

Republicans Boost Jill Stein as Potential Harris Spoiler

Some Republicans are supporting Green Party candidate Jill Stein's long-shot bid for the presidency, attempting to bolster a campaign that could siphon liberal voters from Vice President Kamala Harris.

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Jill Stein 2024!
Voting Green is the next best thing to voting Republican!*

*(Just like in 2000 and 2016)

#1 | Posted by censored at 2024-09-21 01:29 PM

Nobody "Owes" anyone their vote. The candidate has to earn them.

The two party,winner take all system discourages any more than two parties by calling them "spoilers". Nobody owes the two Parties anything. People can vote for other parties.

There's no such thing as a Spoiler. People vote for who they want.

#2 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-09-21 01:49 PM

The two party, winner take all system discourages any more than two parties by calling them "spoilers".

It's hard to establish a third party when all they seem to do is run some rando for president every 4 years.

#3 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-09-21 02:02 PM

It's called democracy. Democrats should try it, since it's right in the name.

#4 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-09-21 02:29 PM

Supreme Court leaves Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein off Nevada's ballot
www.pbs.org

... The Supreme Court has rejected an emergency appeal from Nevada's Green Party seeking to include presidential candidate Jill Stein on the ballot in the battleground state.

The court's order Friday, without any noted dissents, allows ballot preparation and printing to proceed in Nevada without Stein and other Green Party candidates included.

The outcome is a victory for Democrats who had challenged the Greens' inclusion on the ballot in a state with a history of extremely close statewide races. In 2020, President Joe Biden outpaced former President Donald Trump by fewer than 35,000 votes in the state.

The state's Democratic Party had sued to kick Stein off the ballot after the Green Party submitted enough signatures to include her. A lower state court ruled in her favor, but the state Supreme Court decided the petition forms were faulty. ...

The Green party was represented at the Supreme Court by Jay Sekulow, a Trump ally who was part of the president's legal team during his first impeachment trial.

Across the country, a network of Republican political operatives, lawyers and their allies is trying to shape November's election in ways that favor Trump. Their goal is to prop up third-party candidates, including Stein and Cornel West who offer liberal voters an alternative that could siphon away support from Vice President Kamala Harris, the Democratic nominee. ...


#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-09-21 03:25 PM

It's called democracy. Democrats should try it, since it's right in the name.
#4 | Posted by visitor_

Is that before or after the GOP disenfranchises 20% of the Black men in Florida?

#6 | Posted by censored at 2024-09-21 03:29 PM

It's called democracy. Democrats should try it, since it's right in the name.
#4 | Posted by visitor_

Oh yeah, remember when that Obese Old Orange man bought off RFK Jr. so Junior wouldn't siphon off his votes? No, I didn't think you would...

#7 | Posted by censored at 2024-09-21 03:48 PM

Waaaaaa cry me a river Censored. Pick better candidates next time.

#8 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-09-21 10:09 PM

8. Again with that?

#9 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2024-09-21 10:39 PM

Waaaaaa cry me a river Censored. Pick better candidates next time.
#8 | Posted by LauraMohr

Umm, what? Enjoy being manipulated by the GOP that will enforce policies a hundred times worse (from the Green perspective) than anything the Dems would do (which would, if nothing else, put into place a SCOTUS that will allow progressive policies to actually become law).

Don't cry for me Laura Mohr
The truth is that you built that
With your voting
And your whining
Duped by the MAGA ...

#10 | Posted by censored at 2024-09-22 09:54 AM

Pick better candidates next time.

#8 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR

Hillary Clinton was and will always be a better candidate and a better person than Donald Trump.

#11 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-09-22 10:48 AM

Was Stein recently in Russia?

#12 | Posted by Tor at 2024-09-22 10:56 AM

"It's called democracy. Democrats should try it, since it's right in the name.'

Like Trump did in the last election? Insurrection, invasion of the Capital, the hunt for Mike Pence to assassinate him so he couldn't carry out hia Constitutional duties?

Sometimes patriotism becomes more important han personal ego gratification. George W. Bush benefited by Ralph Nader's need foe ego gratification. I wouldn't want to be Jill Stein if her ego enabled Donald Trump to win! Oh, the preaching about democracy be Putin sychophant EFFETELIAR is sadly laughable' Go preach to Putin about democracy ASS***e1 If they let you give us a call from Siberia and let us know how well recieved your opinions are!

#13 | Posted by danni at 2024-09-22 11:03 AM

The GQP shares Stein's fealty to Putin.

#14 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-09-22 11:08 AM

When you encounter people advocating that Americans use democracy as a weapon for use against itself, you've likely identified those influenced by or susceptible to hostile foreign actors hoping to destroy America from within.

#15 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-22 11:15 AM

"It's called democracy. Democrats should try it, since it's right in the name."

Oddly stupid post. Tell us moron, when was the last time Democrats lost the election and then invaded the Capital to prevent the certification of the election by assasinating the Vice President?

President Biden looked at the threat to democracy posed by Donald Trump and withdrew his candidacy so that a younger candidate could win and defend our democracy. So when is Jill Stein going to demonstrate her connittment to democracy through personal sacrifice? Sorry, spoiler candidates like her and Ralph NADER are far more concerned about their own egos than democracy. This election reveals the truth about Stein: Her own Ego before democracy is her priority! We have Russian sympathizers defending Stein here! Laughable at best. Stein needs to exit the race and get behind the preservation of deocracy! If you didn't learn anything in 2000 then you'll probably refuse to put American democracy first but just admit the truth Stein supporters, you're really closeted Trump supporters. Don't be offended by being identified honestly, embrace what you are! So, you're Trump supporters! Own it!

#16 | Posted by danni at 2024-09-22 11:20 AM

That old Russian stooge?

Only idiots like Laura would vote for that skank.

#17 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-09-22 11:42 AM

"When you see the information about Republican operatives boosting her candidacy, you can deduce from that very simply that she is very much sponsored and purposefully placed on the ballot to help Donald Trump," said Joel Payne, spokesman for MoveOn, a progressive political-action committee.

Makes you wonder how much money Trumpy is offering to pay her to give up her last shred of dignity and to run as a spoiler.

#18 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-09-22 11:58 AM

The worst is yet to come?:

Michael Weiss
@michaeldweiss
Everything you can invent isn't as bad as what will eventually be reported.

Quote
The Daily Beast
@thedailybeast

Stein paid $100,000 to a consultancy"run by an apparent January 6 rioter"that worked for Republicans and the failed presidential bid of sexting MAGA convert Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
trib.al

x.com

#19 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-09-22 05:18 PM

I first became aware of the "both candidates are the same" cliche in 2000, when I was 17. Since then, I've observed that, while both parties are influenced by many of the same lobbyists, they don't make the same exact decisions when it comes to things like launching illegal wars against foreign countries, and packing the Supreme Court with lifelong appointed nutjobs who screw over our country and women for who knows how many years into the future, amongst other horrible policy. And I'm still hearing/seeing the "both candidates are the same" BS from some young naive souls today. I've seen that statement wholly disproven over a couple of Republican vs Dem presidencies. I'm no Dem fanboi, but people need to stop throwing out the baby with the bathwater, stop cutting off their nose to spite their face.

#20 | Posted by hamburglar at 2024-09-22 06:11 PM

I'm no Dem fanboi, but people need to stop throwing out the baby with the bathwater, stop cutting off their nose to spite their face.

Uh oh.... Isn't that the equivalent of saying "Laura Mohr, Laura Mohr, Laura Mohr" out loud?

Now you've done it! Prepare to reap the whirlwind. ; ^ )

#21 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-22 06:22 PM

THEY BOTH STAND SHOULDER TO SHOULDER WITH ISRAEL.

They both intend to fund and arm Israel no matter WHAT they do.

Uni-party on Israel isn't a cliche. So No, I don't see much difference between them.

They both want to spend A Trillion dollars on Nuclear Weapons.

They both over fund the military at the Expense of everything else.

UNI-PARTY UNI-PARTY.

No difference between them on matters of War.

#22 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-09-22 07:06 PM

Let's post on Jill's FB page and ask her why she had dinner with Putin and Flynn in 2016!?

Of course, the answer is: Putin and the GOP are financing her campaign. Again.
I hope she chokes on the money after Trump wins again.

#23 | Posted by e1g1 at 2024-09-23 01:49 PM

I hope she chokes on the money after Trump wins again." - #23 | Posted by e1g1 at 2024-09-23 01:49 PM

Let's see: You predict that a convicted felon and an adjudicated rapist is going to win?

Did I get that right?

#24 | Posted by Hans at 2024-09-23 03:19 PM

Trump still got a good chance at winning. Especially with help from republicans passing legislation at local state levels.

Assuming Harris has the election won is foolish and will leaving you spinning like 2016 did.

#25 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-09-23 03:22 PM

Simple solution. ZERO Dems vote for Stein. If Trumptards wish to, go right ahead...

#26 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-09-23 08:42 PM

Republicans are still under the impression that Democrats are voting for Harris because she's a black woman. They figure another woman who's white will make Democrats switch their vote to Stein. Any female Democrat is as about likely to vote for Stein over Harris as they would vote for Palin just like they voted for Hillary. No Democrat ever as far as I know voted for McCain and Palin because she was a woman. No Democrat worth her salt is going to ever vote for Jill Stein, she'll probably take away votes from Trump though. We Democratic women are voting for Harris because of her policies, her gender is just another plus.

#27 | Posted by Ronnie68 at 2024-09-23 09:51 PM

#2 Effeteposer THe problem with 3rd party candidates is most of them are truly weird. I've looked at some of the parties and some of them seem to have good policies. Then I dig deeper and find out they believe some humans are lizard people, they believe they have been kidnapped and probed by aliens, or that the Earth is flat. I'm not voting for kooks.

#28 | Posted by Ronnie68 at 2024-09-23 09:55 PM

So you're voting for Killers?

Either Party means Ongoing Wars.

On War policy they are in virtual Lockstep.

On Military Spending they are in Lockstep.

On Foreign Policy they both see Enemies Everywhere.

The Military Industrial Merry-go-round is in full play and it's Bi-Partisan.

Nuclear Upgrade is settled policy by Both Parties.

No Arms Control Treaties on the Horizon except the Sunsetting of several.

Why?

#29 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-09-23 11:55 PM

Well, you'all can talk all you want about the merits of democracy, but here in the USA the damn electoral college screws it all up. Where else in the world does this happen?

#30 | Posted by shoeless at 2024-09-24 10:11 AM

What is it about Republicans' affection for Russian assets?

Hillary Clinton was and will always be a better candidate and a better person than Donald Trump.

#11 | Posted by donnerboy a

Better candidate? Explain losing to that pos. Russia and Comey be damned, she ran an incompetent, entitled, elitist campaign and got her ass handed to her.
Sorry, but I blame her, DWS and Donna Brazile for he who shall not be named.

#31 | Posted by morris at 2024-09-24 10:33 AM

Better candidate?

Hardly. She was horrible. She would have been a much better president than Lewzer though.

#32 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-09-24 10:51 AM

"Better candidate? Explain losing to that pos."

Maybe I shouldn't have said better "candidate" being as how she lost. But at least as a candidate who lost she accepted the results and conceded and did not try to overturn the results and incite an insurrection. In that way she was a far better candidate.

And Hillary won the popular vote. And she was and is a better person and would have made a better president by far.

More Americans voted for Hillary Clinton than any other losing presidential candidate in US history.

Hillary beat Donald Trump by almost 2.9 million votes, with 65,844,954 (48.2%) to his 62,979,879 (46.1%) in the popular vote.

She made mistakes and her mistakes were not focusing on the electoral college and the needed swing states and properly countering Russian propaganda Trumpy's and republicans lies. Lies which were specifically designed to bring down her poll numbers just enough and that were spread (seeded) for decades previously.

#33 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-09-24 11:26 AM

Better candidate? Explain losing to that pos. Russia and Comey be damned, she ran an incompetent, entitled, elitist campaign and got her ass handed to her. Sorry, but I blame her, DWS and Donna Brazile for he who shall not be named.
#31 | Posted by morris

Trump defeated over 16 GOP candidates for the GOP nomination in 2016, many of them far more qualified and competent. Hillary lost the electoral college by almost the same exact number that Joe won it four years later, about 45,000-77,000 votes (www.washingtonpost.com).

The problem is not just Trump, Hillary, or Joe. It's the stupidity of the American voter. Blaming the candidates is just taking the easy way out without recognizing the real issues facing our democracy. We have met the enemy and he is us.

#34 | Posted by censored at 2024-09-25 07:18 AM

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