Saturday, October 19, 2024

Trump Is Speaking Like Hitler, Stalin, and Mussolini

Anne Applebaum - The word vermin, as a political term, dates from the 1930s and '40s, when both fascists and communists liked to describe their political enemies as vermin, parasites, and blood infections, as well as insects, weeds, dirt, and animals. The term has been revived and reanimated, in an American presidential campaign, with Donald Trump's description of his opponents as "radical-left thugs" who "live like vermin."

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This language isn't merely ugly or repellant: These words belong to a particular tradition. Adolf Hitler used these kinds of terms often. In 1938, he praised his compatriots who had helped "cleanse Germany of all those parasites who drank at the well of the despair of the Fatherland and the People." In occupied Warsaw, a 1941 poster displayed a drawing of a louse with a caricature of a Jewish face. The slogan: "Jews are lice: they cause typhus." Germans, by contrast, were clean, pure, healthy, and vermin-free. Hitler once described the Nazi flag as "the victorious sign of freedom and the purity of our blood."

Stalin used the same kind of language at about the same time. He called his opponents the "enemies of the people," implying that they were not citizens and that they enjoyed no rights. He portrayed them as vermin, pollution, filth that had to be "subjected to ongoing purification," and he inspired his fellow communists to employ similar rhetoric.

In using this language, Trump knows exactly what he is doing. He understands which era and what kind of politics this language evokes ... "If you don't use certain rhetoric," he told an interviewer, "if you don't use certain words, and maybe they're not very nice words, nothing will happen."

His talk of mass deportation is equally calculating. When he suggests that he would target both legal and illegal immigrants, or use the military arbitrarily against U.S. citizens, he does so knowing that past dictatorships have used public displays of violence to build popular support. By calling for mass violence, he hints at his admiration for these dictatorships but also demonstrates disdain for the rule of law and prepares his followers to accept the idea that his regime could, like its predecessors, break the law with impunity.

These are not jokes, and Trump is not laughing. Nor are the people around him. Delegates at the Republican National Convention held up prefabricated signs: Mass Deportation Now. Just this week, when Trump was swaying to music at a surreal rally, he did so in front of a huge slogan: Trump Was Right About Everything. This is language borrowed directly from Benito Mussolini, the Italian fascist.

Several generations of American politicians have assumed that American voters, most of whom learned to pledge allegiance to the flag in school, grew up with the rule of law, and have never experienced occupation or invasion, would be resistant to this kind of language and imagery. Trump is gambling - knowingly and cynically - that we are not.

"When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time."

"Hate, it has caused a lot of problems in the world, but has not solved one yet." ---Maya Angelou

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-19 10:57 AM

#1 | Posted by TonyRoma at 2024-10-19 10:57 AM

Always remember, Tony: Il Duce Trump ha sempre ragione!

#2 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-19 11:04 AM

Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini.

What about Palpatine, Vader, Mao, Satan, Thanos and Gengus Khan?

#3 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-19 11:08 AM

But jeff doesnt defend -------

#4 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-19 11:15 AM

#3 | Posted by JeffJ/Bellringer at 2024-10-19 11:08 AM | Reply | Flag: On topic?

Still awaiting word on this book

#5 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-19 11:20 AM

I'm mocking the absurdity of adding Mussolini and Stalin into the mix.

The Atlantic is a total joke.

And you people are completely unhinged. It's pathetic.

#6 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-19 11:27 AM

Anyone who is not a rabid partisan who sees a headline like that rolls their eyes, shakes their heads and thinks to themselves, "This is so ridiculous."

#7 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-19 11:30 AM

#8
The pearls. You forgot the effin pearls. For clutching. Run, hurry!

#8 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-10-19 11:34 AM

#7 | Posted by JeffJ/Bellringer

"...but he shoulda read the manual: ~ "Everything Trump Touches Dies."" -

#7 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-10-19 07:54 AM

That's the exact book I keep asking JeffJ about (here)

It was a copy originally autographed by the author, and personalized ("To JeffJ").

But, for some reason, JeffJ won't respond.

I wonder why that is.

#9 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-19 11:34 AM

The pearls observation was intended for Jeff at #7.

Applebaum is a smart, longtime observe of the subject. She knows how important language is in codifying, motivating, highlighting and/or obscuring, e.g. the term "evacuation" as used at the Wannsee Conference.

#10 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-10-19 11:39 AM

"...the term "evacuation" as used at the Wannsee Conference."

#10 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-10-19 11:39 AM

I cannot recommend highly enough the HBO movie, Conspiracy. It covers the day of the Wannsee Conference, January 20, 1942.

#11 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-19 12:00 PM

Doc Sarvis,

Well this "expert" is being awfully stupid with this piece.

#12 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-19 12:37 PM

Well this "expert" is being awfully stupid with this piece.

Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-19 12:37 PM | Reply

You of all people are complaining about some expert?? Seriously Jeff. You can't make this crap up people.

#13 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-10-19 12:52 PM

#12 | Posted by BellRinger

Trump is a fascist who behaves and speaks like a fascist.

Of all people, you're better placed to understand that than anyone I know.

#14 | Posted by Zed at 2024-10-19 01:38 PM

BullBringer is a full fledged xenophobe and transphobe.

As long as republicans promise a domestic war to deport brown people and force people to confirm with their birth gender, they got his vote.

This is how the Nazis came to power in Germany.

Idiots like BullBringer who don't view themselves to be Nazis loved to support the Nazi party.

#15 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-10-19 01:52 PM

I'm mocking the absurdity of adding Mussolini and Stalin into the mix.

#6 | Posted by BellRinger

Why is it absurd? Because those are crazy rightwing authoritarian leaders whom people don't know enough about yet? "Hitler" is just warm and fuzzy and comfortable?

What about Mussolini's and Stalin's rantings differ from Trump's, in your opinion?

#16 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2024-10-19 02:20 PM

That point at which right and left come to resemble each other . . .

#17 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2024-10-19 02:21 PM

Fat Donnie Loser isn't speaking at all, he's just swaying and swaying, out of time to his elevator muzak.

#18 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-10-19 02:29 PM

Trump threatens to defund schools that teach about slavery.

www.yahoo.com

#19 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-10-19 02:33 PM

Trump Suggests Abraham Lincoln Should've Let the South Keep a Little Slavery

www.vanityfair.com

#20 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-10-19 02:34 PM

Strawlighter is simply being who he is. There should be zero dispute over the article's title and all the substantiation showing it's accuracy in its comparisons.

[W]hen Trump was swaying to music at a surreal rally, he did so in front of a huge slogan: Trump Was Right About Everything. This is language borrowed directly from Benito Mussolini, the Italian fascist. Soon after the rally, the scholar Ruth Ben-Ghiat posted a photograph of a building in Mussolini's Italy displaying his slogan: Mussolini Is Always Right.

[Trump] has said of immigrants, "They're poisoning the blood of our country" and "They're destroying the blood of our country." He has claimed that many have "bad genes." He has also been more explicit: "They're not humans; they're animals"; they are "cold-blooded killers." He refers more broadly to his opponents - American citizens, some of whom are elected officials - as "the enemy from within ... sick people, radical-left lunatics." Not only do they have no rights; they should be "handled by," he has said, "if necessary, National Guard, or if really necessary, by the military." Donald Trump's described his opponents as "radical-left thugs" who "live like vermin."

Adolf Hitler used these kinds of terms often. In 1938, he praised his compatriots who had helped "cleanse Germany of all those parasites who drank at the well of the despair of the Fatherland and the People." In occupied Warsaw, a 1941 poster displayed a drawing of a louse with a caricature of a Jewish face. The slogan: "Jews are lice: they cause typhus." Germans, by contrast, were clean, pure, healthy, and vermin-free.

Stalin used the same kind of language at about the same time. He called his opponents the "enemies of the people," implying that they were not citizens and that they enjoyed no rights. He portrayed them as vermin, pollution, filth that had to be "subjected to ongoing purification," and he inspired his fellow communists to employ similar rhetoric.

It's all right there in black and white. Don't let Strawlighter gaslight anyone again into disbelieving their own eyes from seeing what unmistakably exists.

#21 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-19 02:41 PM

Trump deserves this comparison. He really does. He's using language that is unprecedented in American politics.

He's not even arguing the issues we had coming into the Civil War, or Civil Rights, or our involvement in world wars and Vietnam, etc.

Even then, politicians refrained from such language to describe their opponents despite whatever extreme position they may have taken.

Am I worried Trump will take action similar to those individuals? No.....but again, he deserves the comparison.

#22 | Posted by eberly at 2024-10-19 02:41 PM

Am I worried Trump will take action similar to those individuals?

#22 | Posted by eberly

Not worried the pig will behave like a pig?

Seems unrealistic.

#23 | Posted by Zed at 2024-10-19 02:57 PM

-Not worried the pig will behave like a pig?

cute little comparisons. I love them.

stay on the porch little fella and practice reciting poems for the school play.

leave the adulthood to the adults.

#24 | Posted by eberly at 2024-10-19 03:03 PM

leave the adulthood to the adults.

#24 | Posted by eberly

Donald Trump is a bad man who has always acted like a bad man.

Why do you quarrel with this?

Jesus. Trump is already naming names of the people he's going to destroy once he gets power again.

#25 | Posted by Zed at 2024-10-19 03:38 PM

When the Democrats tolerate and embrace the ethnosupremacism, fascism and genocidal tendencies of Israeli Zionists, they also give succor to fascist, supremacist Americans like Trump.

It's amazing how similar MAGA and Zionism are and it's quite mind boggling that ordinary Democrats aren't able to make the connection.

#26 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2024-10-19 03:49 PM

-Why do you quarrel with this?

I'm quarreling with you, little fella.

Well, you're nipping my heels more specifically

And using your cute little metaphors for attention.

Well, you got it.

Now my attention to you has ended today

#27 | Posted by eberly at 2024-10-19 03:51 PM

I'm quarreling with you

#27 | Posted by eberly

No consequences to that.

Maybe one day you can do something that requires a little risk.

#28 | Posted by Zed at 2024-10-19 03:55 PM

28

I'm a career risk management professional.

You? A janitor begging to be taken seriously

#29 | Posted by eberly at 2024-10-19 04:05 PM

Am I worried Trump will take action similar to those individuals? No.....but again, he deserves the comparison.
#22 | Posted by eberly

You should be. Former members of his cabinet are, video at link:

Remember?

Trump's former Sec. Def. Mark Esper: "[Trump] was suggesting that... we should bring in the troops & shoot the protesters."

Q: "The commander-in-chief was suggesting that the U.S. military shoot protesters?"

Esper: "Yes, in the streets of our nation's capital."

x.com

#30 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-10-19 04:22 PM

You? A janitor

#29 | Posted by eberly

You're much the background to a janitor's life as you think they're the background you yours.

And.....Thank you for your ongoing attention.

#31 | Posted by Zed at 2024-10-19 04:23 PM

Eberly is Elitist to the Core.

What an Insufferable Bore.

Too full of self regard..

He's just another Entitled ------....

Risk Management Professional?

More like an Insurance Salesman..

Speak Plain Eberly.

High Falootin' Airs and Pretentions... Make you look Pompous and Ridiculous.

Lol.

#32 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-10-19 06:02 PM

If most ALL of his military generals who worked directly with him say he is a fascist danger to America chances are good that he is a fascist danger to America.

#33 | Posted by AlternateFacts at 2024-10-20 02:21 AM

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