Trump's Racist NYC Rally

Monday, October 28, 2024

Donald Trump wanted his Nazi-style rally at Madison Square Garden, in New York City, the media capital of the world. And then he let out his MAGA movement's ugly all-out bigotry.

Posted by Arbusto at 11:08 AM | 109 COMMENTS | permalink

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Elon Musk up there having the time of his life and Melanie coming out to Paradise City rofl y'all are going down.

#1 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-10-27 07:08 PM

Not sure what's funnier, that the "left" has no sense of humor and can't get the act... or that the MAGA base is getting rallied by a gay dude that lives in Austin.

What's really hilarious is how much the GQP is panicking after the-------------------'s bund went off the rails.

x.com

@#4 ... how much the GQP is panicking ....

Unless and until, the GOP comes out publicly and denounces the comments, the GOP is not panicking.

They are endorsing, implicitly or otherwise.

Giuliani defends Trump's rhetoric: He's a New Yorker'
abcnews.go.com

... Madison Square Garden erupted in a standing ovation for former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani when he took the stage at Trump's rally on Sunday.

Giuliani, who has been disbarred over his false claims about the 2020 election, appealed to New Yorkers to boost Trump.

"We gather here today in the middle of midtown Manhattan that this is the most iconic venue of venues in the United States. This is where, this is where Republicans are not supposed to come, which is why Donald Trump came here," Giuliani said, making a nod to the unlikely setting for Trump's closing argument just days away from Election Day.

"There's no place in America the president shouldn't be able to come," he continued.

Giuliani defended Trump's personality as a trait of a New Yorker: "Like me, President Trump grew up here. He's a New Yorker. That's why some people get a little annoyed at him. He speaks his mind." ...

Wait, what?

... "There's no place in America the president shouldn't be able to come," he continued. ...

Who ever said fmr Pres trump was not allowed to visit the great city of New York?

Matt Drudge is panning the orange pedo's hitlerfest.

www.drudgereport.com

@#7

Is that a panning, or a rally-call?

Calling something a spectacle of hate isn't a rally call.

#9 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-10-27 08:22 PM | Reply | Flag: Logically correct

@#9 ... Calling something a spectacle of hate isn't a rally call. ...

Ya know, I want to agree with you.

But then I listen to the messages fmr Pres Trump has been sending to the MAGA cult of late.

So, I proffer ...

Is the comment "Spectacle of Hate" seen as good or bad for his cult, based upon fmr Pres Trump's recent comments?

And fwiw, I clicked on the "Spectacle of Hate" link on drudgereport.com.

Nowhere in the linked article was that phrase. Typical, in my experience, for that site.

www.theatlantic.com

Secret video from the Rally!

This joke does not reflect the views of President Trump or the campaign." -Danielle Alvarez, Senior Advisor

Lol

Not sure what's funnier, that the "left" has no sense of humor and can't get the act... or that the MAGA base is getting rallied by a gay dude that lives in Austin.

#3 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

I went over it with an with an electron microscope

Could not find the joke

Did find your micro penis though

@#13 ... This joke ...

OK, I have two issues with that attempted, in retrospect, characterization.

1) is this yet another attempt at portraying the extreme hateful language that seems to not only surround, but is originated by, fmr Pres Trump of late as a joke?

2) and this is the more important one... was it really a joke?

Trump Gives Kamala GIFT with DISASTER NY Speech

www.youtube.com

BTW he says Puerto Ricans "come inside, just like they did to our county"

Point of Fact

Puerto Rico was invaded by the US and taken over as a commonwealth.

Not surprisingly this idiot is a racist and since ignorance generally tracks closely with racism, there is little surprise that he is a racist idiot.

@#16 ... Trump Gives Kamala GIFT with DISASTER NY Speech ...

OK, here is why I dislike the youtube videos.

I just wasted 13 minutes of my life trying to correlate that video with the comment I quoted above.

Some random guy droning on, and on, and on ....

Yet, the fact is that fmr Pres Trump seemed to pack Madison Square Garden with supporters as he, and his high profile guests (I mean, even Melania showed up. Wow.).

I would not try to diminish this event.

And, yeah, I have attended events at MSG (as we call that legendary Manhattan venue 'round here).

This appearance by fmr Pres Trump at MSG is significant.

Similar to this one?

1939 Nazi rally at Madison Square Garden
en.wikipedia.org

... On February 20, 1939, a Nazi rally took place at Madison Square Garden, organized by the German American Bund. More than 20,000 people attended, and Fritz Julius Kuhn was a featured speaker. The Bund billed the event, which took place two days before George Washington's Birthday, as a pro-"Americanism" rally; the stage at the event featured a huge Washington portrait with swastikas on each side.[1]

Approximately 100,000 anti-Nazi counter-protesters gathered outside, attempting to break through lines of police officers guarding the rally on three occasions. The Bund rapidly declined in the aftermath of the rally, with Kuhn being imprisoned for embezzlement by the end of the year.[2] ...

Oh, that sounds so familiar ...

#18 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-27 10:14 PM | Reply | Flag: Posts exactly like shrimptacodan

#14 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-27 09:19 PM | Reply

Perfect example of how ------ people that fancy themselves "on the left" suck at comedy.

Oh, c'mon...it was all in good fun!

---MAGAts everywhere.

MAGA speakers unleash ugly rhetoric at Trump's MSG rally
www.axios.com

... Donald Trump's rally at Madison Square Garden on Sunday opened with speakers who made racist, sexist and crass remarks about Vice President Kamala Harris and Puerto Ricans.

- - - It concluded with speeches from Trump, his wife, Melania, and billionaire Elon Musk arguing that Trump's the hopeful, optimistic choice.

Why it matters: Crude comments at Trump rallies aren't new. But many speakers at the rally unleashed rhetoric unprecedented in modern American history so close to an election. ...

It's so weird this election season. My vote is already cast, but I still have these twinges of doubt about how Trumpanzee's big events might pan out. It's weird to breathe a sigh of relief over something so awful. His celebrity crew... O... M... G...! Fired, losers, and has-beens.

SMH... this is the last election cycle he will take up all the oxygen.

Think Blue Tsunami mah peeps... Blue Tsunami

"The rally was meant to deliver Trump's closing argument for why voters should give him another term in office, but speaker after speaker made bigoted remarks about Latinos, Black people, Palestinians, and Jews, as well as made violent and misogynistic comments about Vice President Kamala Harris."

MAGA tried to hang a Republican Vice President when they couldn't handle losing an election. Imagine what they're gonna do to some bitch ass comic who just cost them 2024?

~ Noel Casler ~

Puerto Ricans are livid over Trump's rally. The phone system in PR was literally jammed with calls between PR and the U.S. mainland.

The anger isn't dying out, only growing bigger.

Front page of Telemundo, for example:
www.telemundo.com

#26 | Posted by AmericanUnity at 2024-10-28 09:05 PM | Reply | Flag: Should you read this?

Imagine defending the freak show at MSG. The entire Republican party and its supporters are permanently tainted.

#18 | Posted by LampLighter

The only difference between Saturday's hate fest and the 1939 NAZI rally were red caps instead of white robes.

Trump's Puerto Rico fallout is spreading like wildfire' in Pennsylvania

Donald Trump has a serious Puerto Rico problem " in Pennsylvania.

Many Puerto Rican voters in the state are furious about racist and demeaning comments delivered at a Trump rally. Some say their dismay is giving Kamala Harris a new opening to win over the state's Latino voters, particularly nearly half a million Pennsylvanians of Puerto Rican descent.

"This was just like a gift from the gods," said Victor Martinez, an Allentown resident who owns the Spanish language radio station La Mega, noting some Puerto Rican voters in the area have been on the fence about voting at all.

"If we weren't engaged before, we're all paying attention now," Martinez said. He added the morning radio show he hosts was chock-full of callers Monday sounding off on the Trump rally comments, including a Puerto Rican Trump supporter who is now telling people not to vote for the former president.

www.politico.com

#30 | Posted by AmericanUnity at 2024-10-28 11:05 PM | Reply | Flag: Must Read post

#31 | Posted by Hans

The Trump campaign can try to distance themselves all they want to but facts are his remarks were on the teleprompter, so they were aware of what that moron was going to "joke" about. He didn't stop at Puerto Rico either. He and other speakers went after Jews and other ethnic groups that aren't MAGAs preferred whites.

How did remarks at MSG affect Michigan? Rudi Giuliani insulted Palestinians. Arab communities will be reminded of the Muslim ban.

Trump's MSG hate fest of a rally is going to reverberate in other places too. Like Florida, where Rick Scott is running neck and neck, and hundreds of thousands of Puerto Ricans live in the I-4 corridor.

This is a wake up call for Hispanic voters of every stripe. Waking them up to the reality Trump and his ilk are racist to the core.

Great observation, my friend AmericanUnity.

Thank you.

#26 | Posted by AmericanUnity at 2024-10-28 09:05 PM | Reply | Flag: Should you read this?

#27 | Posted by Hans

I wanted to get a handle on how Hispanic media is reporting and reacting to the hate fest at MSG.

They're unanimous in their fury. So are Hispanic voters in general.

It'd be ironic if Trump loses because his hate created his own October Surprise.

Not that I think he was actually ahead anyway. But he's doing worse now than before.

Campaign staffers had all speakers submit a draft of what they were going to say before being loaded into the teleprompters.

This proves everybody in the campaign who disclaimed racist remarks at MSG are nothing but liars. Nothing new ...

Thank you.

#33 | Posted by Hans

You're most welcome

BTW, Stephen Miller, a Jew, did a great impression of a NAZI at the rally:

Stephen Miller, a former senior adviser to Trump known for his vicious anti-immigrant policies, said during his speech that "America is for Americans and Americans only," evoking an old Nazi slogan: "Germany for the Germans " foreigners out."

Tech billionaire Elon Musk, who has been promised a position within the Trump administration should he be elected next week, pulled up to the event in a full black getup that he described as "dark, gothic MAGA."

Trump and his MAGA fascists want America to be a mix of NAZI Germany and Russia's oligarchs who're allowed to prosper instead of falling out of windows.

Thanks to the MSG hatefest, there'll be more of this in the next week:

I'm going to keep beating this drum: For two months, I've been in the battleground states almost nonstop encouraging Republicans & Independents to vote for @KamalaHarris. And at every stop in every battleground state I hear from Republicans who tell me they're voting for her, but they're keeping quiet about it. I hear this everywhere I go. I just believe there's a quiet groundswell of support for Kamala among Republicans that the polls just aren't picking up. @RepsForHarris

4:45 PM Oct 25, 2024

Hinchcliff should stick to roasts of has been actors and music stars. He certainly dropped about 5 notches in repectability for me. Hope he gets largely Black Balled for this reprehensible performance.

I love it. Some nobody comedian could help undo the reelection of the slimeball.

The entire Republican party and its supporters are permanently tainted.

They were tainted when they decided to let him off the hook for 1/6.

Imagine defending the freak show at MSG.

#28 | Posted by cbob at 2024-10-28 10:48 PM | Reply | Flag:

Bringing him to a rally and having him not do roast jokes would be like bringing Beyonce to a rally and not having her.. oh...

#42 - You truly have become rather dissapointing lately, especially with this ridiculous false equivalence. Are you trying to best Jeff/BellRinger for the title of "King of presenting False Equivalences as a deflection"?

Are you voting for Trump now as well?

Imagine defending the freak show at MSG.
#28 | Posted by cbob at 2024-10-28 10:48 PM | Reply | Flag:
Bringing him to a rally and having him not do roast jokes would be like bringing Beyonce to a rally and not having her.. oh...
#42 | Posted by sitzkrieg

In that clip, Stewart defended the comedian, whose jokes he said he finds funny. I didn't see the show. Did he also defend the other speakers at the rally who weren't comedians?

In the end in terms of the election, it doesn't matter what most of us think about the joke about PR. What matters is what Puerto Rican Americans think about it and only then if it influences how they vote.

#43 | Posted by YAV at 2024-10-29 08:46 AM | Reply | Flag:

This forum becomes sensitive to the point of absurdity when elections roll around.

I already voted, it wasn't for Trump, so ---- off with that.

#45 - Thanks. At least I know where you're coming from with all that. That helps.

I just read Stewarts "appraisal" of Beyonce and Hinchcliffe at the two ralllies. Again Stewart is amazingly disappointing, reducing these two people to flat two dimensional caricatures. As if their entire value is only singing/performing or comedy (respectively). What a facile, shallow and limiting perspective on Stewart's part. Not the only time he's missed the mark, IMHO. Using his standards, perhaps he should just "shut up about everything else and just do comedy."

Being in Houston it was a farce. A lot of people thought they were getting a Beyonce show, that's what was advertised by local news. No show.

I was at the airshow performing. Did the Harris campaign bother to cover the airshow at all? ---- no. Did the airshow crowd massively dwarf Queen Bey and Harris? Yes. Where was the Trump campaign workers? At the airshow, working a crowd of 60,000 per day with their brand new Trump Will Fix It signs selling quickly. They paid full price for their booth too, like they do every year.

Beyonce was asked to come and endorse Harris (or more likely she volunteered to do so). She did. Hinchcliffe was asked to come and perform. He did, and I assume was appropriately compensated (although I hope he got the check in advance). Did Hinchliffe also directly endorse Trump during his routine? I don't know because I didn't see/hear his act from that day.

and Stewart was dead on. It's a roast comic. You're getting roast jokes. If you can't handle them in 2024, do not go to any standup acts, ever. You will just walk out and get made fun of for it.

Did Hinchliffe also directly endorse Trump during his routine?

#49 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-10-29 10:35 AM | Reply | Flag:

Yes. He's also been endorsing him repeatedly on Kill Tony, where a new generation of minority, disabled, and LGBTQ comics have made a mark and built careers.
We live in a weird world.

Yes. He's also been endorsing him repeatedly on Kill Tony, where a new generation of minority, disabled, and LGBTQ comics have made a mark and built careers.
We live in a weird world.
#51 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Did he roast Trump and the GOP? Again, just wondering because I didn't see/hear his act.

Thanks for the info.

#48 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-10-29 10:35 AM | Reply | Flag: I'll see your anecdote, and raise you 10 sad abortion stories anecdotes

Thanks, but the Allred campaign has those looping around the clock on every news channel.

Also not seen in the 120,000 person crowd, any Allred signs or campaign presence. No Cruz either.

"Thanks, but the Allred campaign has those looping around the clock on every news channel." -

#55 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Only you need to know who you vote for. Just ask Melania.

Did he roast Trump and the GOP? Again, just wondering because I didn't see/hear his act.

#52 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-10-29 10:38 AM | Reply | Flag:

It's pro Trump obviously, but yes. He roasts MyPillow, the latino Republicans, the one black Republican in the audience, rednecks on immigration, his boomer mom, the crowd for groaning at the jokes, Israel and Palestine at the same time, Trump getting shot in the ear reactions by both Dems & Republicans. It's not his greatest set but it was decent.

#57 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-29 11:01 AM | Reply | Flag:

I'm never clicking one of your links lol. Especially not to Twitter of all things, it's a site that makes you dumber.

Barbara Pierce Bush, the daughter of former President George W. Bush and granddaughter of former President George H.W. Bush, spent part of her weekend in Pennsylvania campaigning for Vice President Kamala Harris

I'm never clicking one of your links lol. Especially not to Twitter of all things, it's a site that makes you dumber.

#59 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

Good.

No need to get you thinking that your wife may not be voting the way you think she is.

It's for the best.

and Stewart was dead on. It's a roast comic. You're getting roast jokes. If you can't handle them in 2024, do not go to any standup acts, ever. You will just walk out and get made fun of for it.

I don't have an issue with a roast comic doing roasts. I don't care for that kind of humor, personally, but to each their own. You take a risk when you do that. A risk that alienated huge numbers of Puerto Ricans.

My issue is equating that, a hired roast comedian to perform his routine, specifically and contractually with what Beyonce did. There is no equivalence. Period. Trying to make one is dishonest AF. Period.

I'm telling you what was advertised here in Houston, Harris + Beyonce, followed by Beyonce doing a show. No entertainment and the crowd was let down.

#61 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-10-29 11:19 AM | Reply | Flag:

My wife already voted for Harris.

You're projecting really hard though and come off as somebody who would hit their wife for voting Trump.

The women in my family will vote however they wish.

#63 - if that was the case, that was a huge unforced error on whoever's part that was. That's just stupid IMHO. I didn't see anything like that on any of the news I watched, though, or any of the emails advertising it that I received. I'm not in TX, though.

Who would have thought that the biggest "October surprise" would have ironically come from Trump's own rally?

"My wife already voted for Harris."

Well I would hope so. You so seem semi reasonable from time to time.

Very sensitive and a bit overreactive but reasonable. So it's quite possible your wife is too.

A lot of focus on Hinchliffe but he was only one small part of the racist, hate-filled rhetoric at that rally. And the crowd ate it up. The other stuff was even more insidious. It doesn't get the attention it deserves, though, because Hinchliffe's in-your-face was better "clickbate" IMHO.

You're projecting really hard though and come off as somebody who would hit their wife for voting Trump.

POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

I don't check on my wife's voting but ...

If I found out my wife was supporting Trump in any way shape or form the only thing I would "hit" her with is divorce papers. No way we could live together after that. Obviously.

Bringing him to a rally and having him not do roast jokes would be like bringing Beyonce to a rally and not having her.. oh...

#42 | Posted by sitzkrieg

It wasn't a "roast" featuring Puerto Ricans or AAs or any of the other ethnic groups he "joked" about.

Media around the world are comparing Trump's MSG rally to the 1939 NAZI rally there, and rightly so.

The only difference was red caps instead of NAZI emblazoned clothing.

Very sensitive and a bit overreactive but reasonable. So it's quite possible your wife is too.

#68 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-10-29 12:05 PM | Reply | Flag

This has to be in the top 10 dumbest posts ever displayed on this site... ever...

SITZ is one of the most reasonable posters on this site.

"Apparently the October surprise was a presidential campaign committing mass political suicide on stage at MSG," Matthew Bartlett, a Republican strategist and former Trump administration appointee, told Politico.

"Some are planning to protest Trump's rally Tuesday in Allentown, a majority-Latino city with one of the largest Puerto Rican populations in the state. And the arena Trump is speaking at is located in the middle of the city's Puerto Rican neighborhood"

"SITZ is one of the most reasonable posters on this site."

#72 | Posted by lfthndthrds

If I were SITZ, I'd consider that one of the most offensive comments I've ever heard.

If I were SITZ, that is.

The MSG rally will go down in history as the "Jokestown Massacre" where they committed mass political suicide.

you dopes are pathetic...

having msnbc throw in footage from "39" must have made your crotches tingle....

where was that footage when the clintons had their rally there ?

you dopes are so desperate.....that's it's become laughable....

--and the truth is ...the only violence...if any....will come from your people.....the real domestic terrorists...

#77 | Posted by shrimptacodan | (Notice how he writes like "bushlover2/afkabl2/"babbles" who, at his advanced age, finally earned his GED!!!)

shrimptacodan's November 5th challenge (is she up to it?)

and walz doubled down on it....

figures...the worthless human who had a snitch line for people to turn in their neighbors..

how very "gestapo" of this douchebag punk !!
--

a worthless human douchebag who let his city burn so as not to hurt the "feelings" of terrorists..

made it easy to butcher children using drugs and operations.....

and of course he's am admitted liar about his "service"...

---and when I write all this out I know now why you dopes are so desperate...

---time to go before I laugh my ass completely off at you dopes

#79 | Posted by shrimptacodan | Flag: shrimptacodan's November 5th challenge (is she up to it?)

and the most telling way we know just what despicable lowlifes today's democrats are......

VP candidate walz....only reason he's on the ticket is because dems couldn't nominate a jew !!

you're disgusting.....

And STD steps right up to show us an example of who the audience was at Trump's rally. Thanks, posterboy!

#81 | Posted by shrimptacodan | Flag: shrimptacodan's November 5th challenge (is she up to it?)

Why isn't Trump's first vice president running on his ticket for a third time?

You're disgusting.

"VP candidate walz....only reason he's on the ticket is because dems couldn't nominate a jew !!" -

#81 | Posted by shrimptacodan

Joe Lieberman would like a word with you, shrimptacodan.

shrimptacodan's November 5th challenge (is she up to it?)

--and the truth is ...the only violence...if any....will come from your people.....the real domestic terrorists...

POSTED BY SHRIMPTACOKKK

The truth is the only violent transfer of power in American history was orchestrated and perpetrated by Trumpy and his maga maroons.

If I were SITZ, I'd consider that one of the most offensive comments I've ever heard.

#75 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-29 01:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

You're not that fortunate.

However, I am a paragon of reasonability compared to most posters here.

SITZ is one of the most reasonable posters on this site.

#72 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

SITZ doesn't need you kissing up to him. He defends himself nicely.

I would say you are the dumbest poster in this site but Stinkerbell is giving you a real run for your money.

(Pretty sure i included "reasonable" in my post)

When I have AI grade sociopathy here, you're one of the higher ranked ones lol. Not at all reasonable, just a partisan psycho.

Yep, racist with blacks, jews hispanics in the crowd. Guess the left ddid not even know that the original Madison Square Garden was demolished in 1968.

Here is a list of 'Nazi lovers' who have performed at MSG ; )

en.wikipedia.org

It was a Love Fest!

Just not quite as loving and festive as the J6 "Love Fest".

Nobody is going to jail after this one.

@389 ... Here is a list of 'Nazi lovers' who have performed at MSG ; ) ...

OK, please explain how the list you provide is a list of 'Nazi lovers' you say it is?

Or is it the usual lame deflection attempt by you?

@#91

... and, yes, I have attended concerts at MSG.

Notably, The Who, Pink Floyd, Moody Blues, among others.

So, I ask again, please explain how the list you provide is a list of 'Nazi lovers' you say it is?

Watching TDS and Stewart's full monologue the sarcasm and support of Beyonce (for not singing) became crystal clear. As was the target of his sarcasm - the reporting of the comedian's jokes.

@#93 ... (for not singing) ...

An opinion of a former employee of the record industry ...

She may not have been allowed to sing at this event by her contract.

#94 - makes complete sense. She wasn't hired to put on a show or to sing. She was there being a citizen and voicing her advocacy.
False equivalences are garbage.

Maybe Trump wants to lose? I do not know how else to explain that rally.

Maybe Trump wants to lose?

He did in 2016... not sure what this would be different other than the prison thing.

MODER8

I think Trump just stepped on his own ------- at the wrong time and in the wrong place.

It happens more often than not when someone is as desperate as Donald Trump.

I'd even call it predictable.

I think Trump just stepped on his own -------

Metaphorically of course? He doesn't exactly have 'shroom stomping agility.

@#96 ...Maybe Trump wants to lose? ...

Yeah, I've seen that opinion proffered on various sites.

I do not believe it for a moment.

For starters, whenever fmr Pres Trump has lost, he seems to rail out at the decision being rigged or corrupt.

He never seems to be able to admit his loss.

He always seems to portray himself as the victim.

As his revenge-politics agenda seems to show.

He always seems to portray himself as the victim.

That was his plan in 2016. Run as a publicity stunt for his fake game show, win the popular vote but not have to do the job. Hillary scooped him on that one.

Teddy Roosevelt rally at the original Madison Square Gardens:duckduckgo.com

The current [third rendition] Madison Square gardens Bill Clinton rally:

en.wikipedia.org 1992 'Democratic National Convention nominated Governor Bill Clinton of Arkansas for president and Senator Al Gore from Tennessee for vice president; Clinton announced Gore as his running-mate on July 9, 1992. The convention was held at Madison Square Garden in New York City, New York from July 13 to July 16, 1992. The Clinton-Gore ticket then faced and defeated their Republican opponents, President George H. W. Bush and Vice President Dan Quayle as well as the independent ticket of Ross Perot and James Stockdale in the 1992 presidential election.'

BTW: the second rendition of MSG was where the Hitler rally happened [the one that was razed in the late 60s.time frame.

Billy joel, a jew, has performed at MSG.

LAMP

In the past, I think Trump courted losing. He likes beating the odds. It makes winning so much more delicious.

But not this time. He has too much riding on winning this election. Not just personally but also the future of Mr. Putin's expansion plans into Eastern Europe~~ to only mention the top two.

I guess we could trace Trump's defeat back to the day Joe Biden stepped down, throwing Trump's whole campaign strategy for a loop. It's been an uphill battle ever since.

I also don't think the race is as close as the polls indicate. I'm not real big on conspiracy theories but there have been some plausible suggestions that Trump's numberers have been artificially inflated to keep his base and donors in the game as well as a buttress for his post-election lawsuits.

@#102 ... Billy joel, a jew, has performed at MSG. ...

Yeah, Billy Joel has just wrapped up a ten-year-long residency at MSG.

All Billy Joel's Guests and Milestones During His Record-Breaking Madison Square Garden Residency
www.billboard.com

... His choices of onstage friends and cover versions made his decade-long MSG run a celebration of pop music history.

Billy Joel, the legendary singer-songwriter who is concluding his decade-long residency at Madison Square Garden Thursday (July 25), has a lot of friends -- in addition to the nearly two million ticket-buying fans who have flocked to his repeat performances at the Manhattan arena he's called home since 2014.

And through the course of his record-setting run at the Garden, Joel has welcomed many of his fellow artists -- and family members, including daughters Alexa Ray Joel and Della Rose Joel -- onstage for choice songs and unforgettable moments. The staggering list of big-name guests he's invited to join the MSG stage with him over the past 10 years includes such legends as Sting, John Mellencamp, Elvis Costello, Tony Bennett, Paul Simon and John Fogerty, along with more 21st century hitmakers like John Mayer, Miley Cyrus, Gavin DeGraw and even Olivia Rodrigo.

Collectively, these famous buds and music luminaries have helped Joel host an ongoing celebration of his decades of success within pop and rock -- one that's lasted a decade in its own right by this point. In the meantime, he's also managed to rack up an impressive number of milestones as one of the most esteemed and popular live performers of his era, particularly in conjunction with the Manhattan venue familiarly known as The World's Most Famous Arena. ...