MAGA Is Leading 'the Dumbest Imperial Collapse in History'

Thursday, February 20, 2025

The American Prospect's Ryan Cooper has found himself utterly flabbergasted by the way that President Donald Trump and X owner Elon Musk are leading what he describes as "the dumbest imperial collapse in history."

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Donald Trump is the worst nightmare of the Founding Fathers, particularly James Madison: prospect.org/politics/202 ...

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-- The American Prospect (@theprospect.bsky.social) February 18, 2025 at 12:06 PM

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Well, they're the biggest dumbasses in history, so...

#1 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-02-19 10:16 AM

Cooper's essay is spot on.
It's the stupidity, stoopid.

#2 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-02-19 11:12 AM

"nobody has matched this current downfall for sheer egregious stupidity"

To be fair, no one else had Trumpers to support them.

Thanks, Trumpism!

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2025-02-19 11:15 AM

"sheer egregious stupidity"

Both intellectual and emotional.

Makes you wonder what MAGA is good for except occasionally smearing ---- on walls.

#4 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-19 12:26 PM

Another thread that the dips(*&s will avoid like the plague.

#5 | Posted by jpw at 2025-02-19 01:22 PM

The Dotard-in-Chief has certainly accelerated America's hegemonic decline, like Nero or Caligula during the Roman Empire. China is the second largest economy in the world and spreading its influence in Africa, Micronesia, and SE Asia. Last year China opened a railway into Afghanistan and is building RR tracks in Africa. Beijing has probably lost less than 100 soldiers in the 21st century (border skirmishes in the Himalayas against India) while selling and testing weapons systems during the Russian invasion of Ukraine, profiting and learning at the same time. While the US wasted money and resources in Iraq and Afghanistan (the "forever wars"), Beijing invested in its space program and now poses a serious threat to US satellite systems. Thank you, Republicans!

Click here to see China's hypersonic stealth spaceplane: https://www.graphicnews.com

#6 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-02-19 02:11 PM

Trump will grab a third rail soon enough and then be forced from office.

The country will recover faster than it did after the civil war.

#7 | Posted by Tor at 2025-02-21 12:21 AM

It's not dumb. It's genius.

Putin's genius.

#8 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-02-21 12:35 AM

"Trump will grab a third rail soon enough and then be forced from office."

Who is waiting in the wings? Vance? Please. It's morons all the way down.

#9 | Posted by dibblda at 2025-02-21 12:47 AM

Regardless of who's sitting in the oval office, Musk is in charge.

#10 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-02-21 12:50 AM

@#7 ... Trump will grab a third rail soon enough ...

Yeah. I guess that depends upon one's opinion of third rail.

imo, he has already done so, and his party seems to be quite OK with it.

And, fwiw, I know well what the third rail is. Back when I was a kid, I used to go down to the train tracks, the trains that were powered by the 600 volts in the third rail. I was told never to touch that third rail. That I am still here and able to write this indicates that I took that advice seriously.

Now, fwiw, again, when I visit google's street view of the place by the train tracks I used to visit back in my youth, I notice that there is a fence preventing a curious kid from going on to the train tracks near that third rail..

#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-21 12:54 AM

@#11 ... when I visit google's street view of the place by the train tracks I used to visit ...

And, if I may proffer ...

Spend some time in google's street view.

Visit the neighborhood of your youth, walk along the paths you used to walk.

Look at the house you grew up in.

#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-21 12:56 AM

@#8 ... It's not dumb. It's genius.

Putin's genius. ...

I wish I could offer one (or any) argument against that assertion.

But, sadly, I cannot.

Pres Trump now looks and acts as Pres Putin's personal sock puppet.

#13 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-21 01:21 AM

Thanks for handing America over to the Kremlin and Felon Musk, Republican voters!

#14 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-02-21 02:02 AM

NATO incited them to Fight when they Knew they couldn't win.

How Sick is that?

Trump is Stupid and Destructive. He's not handling this well at all.

If the shooting stops it's still Good.

Not Great for Ukraine but Hey, Russia got Weakened for the Western Alliance.

Their Sacrifice so no Western Personnel had to Die is duly Appreciated.

I'm sure they feel just Fine Now.

Knowing how Helpful to NATO they've Been.

#15 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-02-21 02:20 AM

Imperial collapse? We're an empire now?

#16 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-02-21 10:38 AM

"Imperial collapse? We're an empire now?"

You must've missed King Don-old's last dictum. Try to keep up.

#17 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-02-21 10:48 AM

We're an empire now?

#16 | Posted by sitzkrieg a

Well, we appear to have a king.

#18 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-21 10:52 AM

If you think Musk isn't heading to prison think again.

#19 | Posted by Tor at 2025-02-21 12:17 PM

You must've missed King Don-old's last dictum. Try to keep up.

#17 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-02-21 10:48 AM | Reply | Flag:

Well, we appear to have a king.

#18 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-21 10:52 AM | Reply | Flag:

He's been president a month. He built an imperial kingdom and wrecked it in a month? The man's gifted.

#20 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-02-21 01:28 PM

re: #19...I fully expect Trump's quisling cabinet picks at Justice and the Defense Dept. to cover for him, should anyone have the temerity to drag Trump's Richy Rich hand puppet through court. It was glaringly obvious watching Musk bunny-hop around the stage when Trump first introduced him that Musk seemed quite keen to play the fly in our Chardonney. Some guys want to smash things just to show they can, ya' know? If Musk does wind up incarcerated, no one will be pleased more to be wrong than I.

#21 | Posted by dutch46 at 2025-02-21 02:50 PM

And for today's specialty of the (White) house; we gut the entire military Joint Chiefs of Staff and JAG leadership. Rarely has collapse been this expedited or this public. And yet some of you ------- idiots still support Trump. Wow.

#22 | Posted by moder8 at 2025-02-21 09:21 PM

Good, we're a Republic, not an empire

#23 | Posted by THEBULL at 2025-02-21 10:14 PM

I scrolled up the thread and here is my report: Not a single one of those MAGA idiots had a single word to say because they can't now defend their idiotic belief in Donald Trump.

A Republic, Not an Empire
Reclaiming America's Destiny
By Patrick J. Buchanan

Probably one of thr dumbest people ever to have the opportunity to speak on national TV

Pat Buchanan Pays Tribute To Richard M. Nixon

www.youtube.com

#24 | Posted by danni at 2025-02-22 12:35 AM

"The lesson is clear: America cannot be trusted, and all its former allies should start preparing for the worst, including developing their own nuclear deterrents in case of war with the U.S. itself,"

That's probably a good idea.

#25 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-02-22 01:11 AM

America could Never be Trusted.

Liars since Well, Forever.

That's why Ukraine was so Stupid to trust us.

They were Used up and are now being discarded.

It's not just Trump. Both Parties are part of it.

#26 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-02-22 11:58 AM

I was never a fan of nuclear weapons but it might be time to acquire a few just in case.

#27 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-02-22 12:12 PM

America could Never be Trusted.
- effete

True, it's system of government ensures there is a new policy every 4-8 years