Bellringer.
I have seen it 4 times.
I do not need anyone telling me what I saw.
I certainly do not need that worthless right-wing nutjob, Megyn Kelly's "opinion." Good lord.
At least she's not Steve Bannon or Stephen Miller, or that right-wing nazi wannabe instigator, JD Vance, or Nazi supporter fElon Musk.

No, not interested in indulging the right-wing rationalization.
What happened is crystal clear.

What I believe I saw:

I watched this unfold real-time.
I didn't read/hear anything from anyone else about what happened.
i was infuriated Vance was a total ------. It was embarassing. It was shameful.
Trump spun himself up, and became totally irrational.
Zelenskyy - you could watch him processing everything as best he could, given the oddity of the English grammar and terms being used, and the accusations being hurled at him from 3 different directions. Including the "suit guy" moron.

From the posting it seemed to me that Bellringer didn't see it live, and then didn't watch it until after he'd read/watched right-wing coverage of it.
Bellringer then watched the event with all the preconditioning needed to interpret it as the MAGAverse wanted.

I absolutely could be wrong about that, but to me, based on the original thread, that seems to be the way it unfolded with Bellringer.

That is why I won't play this game. It's not a game. It's not a "gotcha." These are people's lives and I am ashamed that my country would exploit someone so vulnerable to the point of even trying to seize their resources while demanding they be thankful. Not just thankful, but really, really thankful to Trump himself.

Trump is an embarrassment to this great Nation.

You're a sycophant LyinYav, you can't even trust your eyes.

It is not possible that I am a sycophant.
Or do you not know what that word means?
Perhaps it's just as it always is with you - projection.

Personally I am ready for a "second amendment solution" right now but I will patiently wait for the rest of America to catch up with me.

I am right there with you on that sentiment.

I watched Musk try that lie out and all I could think is "This man is a moron."
He's wealthy. He's lucky. Fine.
But damn, he is an idiot.

That implies that Ukraine gets nothing out of it in return. It's an economic boon to their country.

A boom to their country that "a bomb could fall on your head at anytime" anyways? No security aid or promise from the United States? I suppose you have that mineral rights agreement handy so you can tell us what Ukraine's going to get that's going to make them rich? Richer than if they didn't do a deal with the demon representing the devil?

Yep.
The tell was Trump's signal of "last question." and Vance jumped right in.

Excuse me, Trump said "one more question" (the direct quote).
Then no questions were allowed as Vance jumped right in.
That was his cue.

#61 - That is what the Ukraine Constitution lays out. Zelenskyy did not suspend elections. Zelenskyy is not a dictator. When Russia invaded Ukraine, when the tanks rolled in, the nation went into martial law. Elections for both the legislature and the presidency were suspended. This is what the Ukraine Constitution requires. It is not legal to hold national elections when martial law is in effect.

So your question is a deliberate lie on multiple fronts. He did not suspend elections and it wasn't done so he could retain power, and it was not an option in the first place.

Perfect, Rsty.

What do you say to that, Bellringer? Are you going to ask that again and pretend no one answered you?
This is the second time I've seen Rsty respond to that question.