Democrats and MS-13, a springtime love affair

Friday, April 25, 2025

Political parties need votes from people, and voters do not like being murdered or seeing their countrymen killed. So you would expect all politicians to take their side on least on this. But when it comes to Democrats, you'd be wrong about that.

Posted by BellRinger at 02:20 AM | 112 COMMENTS | permalink

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MS-13 Votes Matter.

#1 | Posted by censored at 2025-04-25 02:37 AM

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Typical Jeff threads.

Not sure which is more disturbing, the lies they make up to demonize the brown people they are terrified of or the millions of MAGAts that believe those lies without a scintilla of evidence or critical thinking.

"voters do not like being murdered or seeing their countrymen killed."

That's not true.

Republicans were happy when Trump's failed response to COVID led to an excess in Republican deaths.

"Gangs" are just another useful club.

Like "abortion".

Trump/MAGA wants power. The two words are convenient.

Republicans were happy when Trump's failed response to COVID led to an excess in Republican deaths.

#8 | Posted by snoofy

One of the many MAGA things I don't think that I'll ever get my mind around.

The first MAGA thing I could never get my mind around is that they truly don't care if Donald Trump steals from them.

There's actually this whole long list.

MS-13 is an excuse for undermining American courts and the rule of law.

Like fascists want to do.

"Gaza hostages dress up in MS13 costumes so Democrats will fight for their release." - Babylon Bee

#12 | Posted by BellRinger

Quit pretending. We see through you.

CBS, ABC and NBC news from April 1 to April 23. 12 seconds of coverage of the Rachel Morin murder trial. 143 minutes of "Maryland man" coverage.

Yeah, Democrats and the left love MS13 and apparently hate Americans.

hate Americans.

#14 | Posted by BellRinger

Like Donald Trump does?

#15 | Posted by BellRinger

Something must have stung you because you're doubling down. You usually run away.

Just saying.

"CBS, ABC and NBC news from April 1 to April 23. 12 seconds of coverage of the Rachel Morin murder trial."

"143 minutes of "Maryland man" coverage."

There's dozens of murders in the United States every day.

There's never been a Maryland Man sent to a foreign prison without a trial in the United States before, in the history of our once great nation.

One of them is an actual news story that should catch the attention of any self-proclaimed Constitutional scholar. The other is outrage porn.

" 12 seconds of coverage of the Rachel Morin murder trial. 143 minutes of "Maryland man" coverage."

Murder trials happen daily.

A President unilaterally denying Constitutional Due Process, not so much.

Can you not admit that, or do you not see it?

"Gaza hostages dress up in MS13 costumes"

Futurer proof that JeffJ is a blind man:
Does not know a tattoo is not a piece of clothing.

And just looks that.
You owe me another Coke, Danforth!

I think it's reasonable to seriously question the degree to which Tom Homan or anyone working for him possesses, much less acts upon, accurate information concerning these gangs and how to identify their members.

Jeff's teachers handed him his tests face down.

But I see Jeff has found his new fake bogeyman.

It was "Censorship" that wasn't actually censorship. But now that Trump is doing actual censorship, not a peep from Jeff.

Now it's "MS-13 gang members" that aren't actually MS-13 gang members. And not a peep about due process.

Why does Jeff hate America and the Constitution? Why does he hate Due Process?

" A President unilaterally denying Constitutional Due Process, not so much"

He had at least 2 courts sessions and was deemed eligible for deportation. That IS due process.

More -------- from Ballwasher.

Just ---- off, ------. You're a ------- tired joke.

More -------- from Jeff.

In other words, a day that ends in Y

" Murder trials happen daily. "

Yep. We were inundated with coverage of Trayvon, Rittnenhouse, George Floyd, etc.

You are implying that because they happen daily THAT is why they receive little to no coverage. Yet, certain trials get outsized coverage.

We all know why Marin's is being ignored by the legacy media.

#23. I ignore you when you troll and erect straw man arguments. I am not going to defend positions I haven't taken.

Try growing up a little bit.

"I am not going to defend positions I haven't taken."

You have taken the position that migrants don't get Due Process under the Constitution.

"He had at least 2 courts sessions "

So? He also had a court order AGAINST what happened.

"That IS due process."

Due Process is NOT subject to your definitional whim. You're either gaslighting, or outright lying.

Since I'm a gentleman, I'll let you pick: ignoramus, or bald-faced liar?

We were inundated with coverage of Trayvon, Rittnenhouse, George Floyd, etc.

OJ Simpson, Jodi Arias, Andrea Yates, etc. etc.

"He had at least 2 courts sessions"
"That IS due process."

Is two the magic number at which the burden of Due Process has been achieved?

I missed that ruling.

Please explain it to the Supreme Court who disagrees with you 9-0.

" I ignore you when you troll and erect straw man arguments."

Stating you're against a clear right in the Constitution is NOT a strawman. it's an observation. And a fairly obvious one at that, considering how you SCREECH at censorship and lawfare, until Trump's actions smack you in the face.

If you were an honest broker, you'd be posting threads daily about Trump's intimidation of law firms, and his attempt to force bribery payments, not to mention grift-coins, and threats to prosecute with no known accusation, aka LAWFARE.

Instead, you're not only silent, you're posting BS stories to distract. Such a good little toady!

MORE WATER, GUNGA BELLE!!!

He had at least 2 courts sessions and was deemed eligible for deportation. That IS due process.

#24 | Posted by BellRinger

Which one ordered deportation?

Oh right, they ordered Withholding of Deportation.

And Trump ignored it.

That's not called Due Process.

How dense are you?

JeffJ has achieved his goals and won't be returning to this discussion.

Instead, you're not only silent, you're posting BS stories to distract. Such a good little toady!
MORE WATER, GUNGA BELLE!!!

Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-25 11:30 AM | Reply

Here Jeff. You need this

www.lehmans.com

Do ya'll have a License to beat that dog JBelle?

"You are implying that because they happen daily THAT is why they receive little to no coverage."

No. I'm stating full-out you can't link to a President doing this in our lifetimes.

Good effing God, man, are you trying to look dumb? Or is it you can't bring yourself to stand up against Trump, for (R)easons?

" Overload the country with as many unvetted illegals as possible, by any means necessary.

Know that mobilization of resources and enforcement operations to remove them would be extraordinarily daunting.

Rely on heavily funded leftwing legal groups and activist courts to delay, obstruct and impede deportations at every possible turn "

" in an attempt to nullify the election result and override Americans' overwhelming desire for deportations, while looking to enshrine millions of illegals permanently into the country, reshaping congressional apportionment and securing future voter blocs for the Democrat party.

In parallel, utilize that same set of lawfare groups and activist judges to fight any and all election security measures, such as implementing voter ID and stopping non-citizen voting.

And, of course, count on their legacy media PR arm to run information ops and secrete a never-ending deluge of propaganda to run cover for it all.

The end goal being: Single-party, permanent power.

If Kamala would've won, the borders would have remained open, and mass importation would've continued. Game over"

Here is the link for #39

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" No. I'm stating full-out you can't link to a President doing this in our lifetimes"

Violate the Constitution? Does US history for you start January 20 , 2025?

#33. I criticize Trump more in one month than you did for Biden in 4 years. You cheered and defended a vast censorship regime. I don't recall your position on Biden unilaterally cancellingvsrudent loan debt but I'm guessing you were all for it. Surely you defended all time record high illegal entries into the country. The made up "parole " program where the administration facilitated entry. Work permits, drivers licenses, free lodging, taxpayer funded debit cards, all of it. I don't remember you speaking negatively about any of that so spare me any lectures as to what I'm supposed to be outraged by.

" Overload the country with as many unvetted illegals as possible, by any means necessary.
Know that mobilization of resources and enforcement operations to remove them would be extraordinarily daunting.
Rely on heavily funded leftwing legal groups and activist courts to delay, obstruct and impede deportations at every possible turn "
" in an attempt to nullify the election result and override Americans' overwhelming desire for deportations, while looking to enshrine millions of illegals permanently into the country, reshaping congressional apportionment and securing future voter blocs for the Democrat party.
In parallel, utilize that same set of lawfare groups and activist judges to fight any and all election security measures, such as implementing voter ID and stopping non-citizen voting.
And, of course, count on their legacy media PR arm to run information ops and secrete a never-ending deluge of propaganda to run cover for it all.
The end goal being: Single-party, permanent power.
If Kamala would've won, the borders would have remained open, and mass importation would've continued. Game over"
#39 | Posted by BellRinger

You might be the dumbest poster of all time. I mean that sincerely.

IF THEY COME IN APPLYING FOR ASYLUM, THEY ARE HERE LEGALLY.
IF THEY COME IN APPLYING FOR ASYLUM, THEY ARE HERE LEGALLY.
IF THEY COME IN APPLYING FOR ASYLUM, THEY ARE HERE LEGALLY.
IF THEY COME IN APPLYING FOR ASYLUM, THEY ARE HERE LEGALLY.
IF THEY COME IN APPLYING FOR ASYLUM, THEY ARE HERE LEGALLY.

If they weren't applying for asylum, they got turned around. And Biden deported MORE people than Trump. Trump just made applying for asylum very difficult.

How god damn stupid do you have to be NOT to understand that?

And guess what? YOU STILL HAVE TO FOLLOW THE GOD DAMN CONSTITUTION. That means Due Process and following Court Orders.

Well, a Wisconsin judge was just arrested for what CPB considers "harboring alien enemies":

FBI arrests Wisconsin Judge Dugan on obstruction charge, escalates Trump immigration enforcement effort Published Fri, Apr 25 2025 10:37 AM EDT Updated 58 Min Ago

These are steps to further cripple the judicial system regarding immigration.

The Republicans blocked Biden from sending judges to the border, this entire situation is Republicans making.

All who immigrate are under terrorism from right wing extremists.

CPB and ICE in particular.

" IF THEY COME IN APPLYING FOR ASYLUM, THEY ARE HERE LEGALLY"

They are still required to go through legal ports of entry to do that. Also, even asylum seekers can be made to wait for their court hearing in another country. Remember remain in Mexico'? So spare me your overinflated ego and condescension. You are making it up as you go and seem to think that bold and all caps makes you sound authoritative. It doesn't.

#44 she falsified court records to hide from ICE that he would be in her courtroom. She also hid him in the jury chamber.

"Nobody is above the law."

It is crystal clear the left wants to flood the country with as many illegal aliens as possible and will then fight tooth and nail to keep them here, no matter what they do while they are here.

#44 she falsified court records to hide from ICE that he would be in her courtroom. She also hid him in the jury chamber.
"Nobody is above the law."
It is crystal clear the left wants to flood the country with as many illegal aliens as possible and will then fight tooth and nail to keep them here, no matter what they do while they are here.
#46 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-04-25 02:34 PM

It is crystal clear who harms America. Like Project 2025.

It is crystal clear the left wants to flood the country with as many illegal aliens as possible and will then fight tooth and nail to keep them here, no matter what they do while they are here.

#46 | Posted by BellRinger

It's crystal clear to dishonest fascists.

I criticize Trump more in one month

#42 | Posted by BellRinger

You aren't serious about it.

she falsified court records to hide from ICE that he would be in her courtroom. She also hid him in the jury chamber.

#46 | Posted by BellRinger

So wadda ya think?

No due procoess and CECOT?

There's 4-5 people posting as bellringer. That way people who got banned for posting covid lies can post here. Also 'jeff' can deny anything he spent 20 years typing that we remember.

It's a dishonest game those guys are playing, and that's on a GOOD day. On a bad day they just troll and lie.

she falsified court records to hide from ICE that he would be in her courtroom. She also hid him in the jury chamber.

#46 | Posted by BellRinger

I'm going out on a (short) limb and say that she did nothing wrong.

Kask Patel and Donald Trump are Liars.

Kask Patel and Donald Trump are Liars.

Pretty much. The immigrant in question got arrested.

So where's the obstruction?

Simply put, I DO T TRUST DONALD TRUMP. He's been going to war with the courts because they're all that's slowing him down. Apparently, trump wasn't content with jury intimidation and doxxing judges and their families, now he's escalating to arrests.

she falsified court records to hide from ICE that he would be in her courtroom. She also hid him in the jury chamber.

I'll wait until I see the evidence in an actual courtroom to make an assessment of that for myself.

Trumps word on the matter is worthless. 99% of the things he says in the media (the court of public opinion) are outright LIES.

now he's escalating to arrests.

#54 | Posted by Alexandrite

Exactly right.

But it can be taken as a sign that events are already squeezing him into desperation because he hasn't consolidated nearly enough power to make such a move successfully.

now he's escalating to arrests.
#54 | Posted by Alexandrite
Exactly right.
But it can be taken as a sign that events are already squeezing him into desperation because he hasn't consolidated nearly enough power to make such a move successfully.
#56 | Posted by Zed at 2025-04-25 02:51 PM

From your QWERTY to God's DM's..

I'm a borderline Hall of Fame troll, Alexandrite. I easily elicit multiple responses with a single post. And it doesn't take any effort.
#27 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-04-06 05:42 PM

69!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm a borderline Hall of Fame troll, Alexandrite. I easily elicit multiple responses with a single post. And it doesn't take any effort.
#27 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-04-06 05:42 PM

Magat scum are a disease.

"You cheered and defended a vast censorship regime."

Nonsense. I demanded you prove your censorship claims, and you failed time after time. You even blamed Biden for government actions taken in 2020!

Then Trump started threatening law firms and demanding 9-figures of political lobbying, AND YOU STAYED SILENT. He threatened to ban unfriendly news outlets (let's be serious, un-slurpy outfits), AND YOU STAYED SILENT. And that was AFTER creating a pure-corruption grift-coin...AND YOU STAYED SILENT.

What's the matter...too busy carrying all that water?

Why the hell is Patel TWEETING THIS?

It's corrupting the jury pool ffs. What an incompetent ass.

"We believe Judge Dugan intentionally misdirected federal agents away from the subject to be arrested in her courthouse, Eduardo Flores Ruiz, allowing the subject " an illegal alien " to evade arrest," Patel wrote. "Thankfully, our agents chased down the perp on foot and he's been in custody since."
Why the hell is Patel TWEETING THIS?
It's corrupting the jury pool ffs. What an incompetent ass.
#73 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-04-25 03:06 PM

Yes. These are incompetent people at the helm. By design.

Well done, Truth. If it can't be me, you're a swarthy stand in.

swarthy was funnier!

So, Twoothy spams with 12 posts of the exact same thing and Lee the Agent appears impressed. Strange.

It's not that Democrats love the gangs.

They just don't want to cause a nationwide drug shortage.

Especially now going into the summer.

Imagine if Hollywood couldn't get their party favors.

The deMS-13 know they picked a horrible case to go all in on - and the reality is - if Trump wasn't deporting total human garbage, they probably would have picked a different poster boy with an actual sob story. The Dems will oppose deportation at every turn because they want/need the illegals, that will never change. But, this guy blew up in their face so that is why you see the talking point shift from 'Maryland man' to Due Process NOW! as 'Maryland man' was proven to be 2x wife beater and MS-13 game member. The Dems will deny even knowing this guy's name a week from now.

The last few years I have been stunned how the dems are on the wrong side of every social issue.

Their comeback is usually some emotional appeal about "compassion" or "equity," but when you dig deeper its less about problem solving and more about virtue signaling or blindly singing the party line.

"The last few years I have been stunned how the dems are on the wrong side of every social issue."

Please explain to us why giving due process for all people the Wrong Side of the issue of who gets due process.

Please describe why the Founding Fathers put that into the Constitution to begin with, that people get due process.

What was that supposed to be an improvement on?

Thanks.

"#83 | Posted by snoofy"

If nothing else, you do put in the hours trying to spin with the new Democrat talking point on Due Process.

Republicans were happy when Trump's failed response to COVID led to an excess in Republican deaths.

#8 | Posted by snoofy at

effing hoax and bs

from the first letter to the last/

---idiot sheep

HOMELAND SECURITY has proven that it was the wife beating illegal who was driving the car in Tennessee filled with illegals.

so....once again....from smollet to tampon tim to whatever
harris was and an emerging idiot bartender with large breasts ( I had to say something positive about her ) at a 61% approval rate of democrats to the GIGANTIC gov of Ill. lying his HUGE butt off about trans kids....this citizen of El Salvador ho is EXACTLY WHERE HE BELONGS...is the new democrat hero...

its almost as if the activist running the democrat party....same activist who ran the country the last four years... wants the GOP to control the WH until 2036 because they still don't know why they lost to "hitler

#82 | Posted by BillJohnson

totally accurate but incomplete.

dems are making major money supporting their fringe issues.

again....why did "hitler" win ?

the border...

Their comeback is usually some emotional appeal about "compassion" or "equity," but when you dig deeper

it sounds like you don't understand the connection between Due Process and compassion and equity.
That's why I asked you what it was like before we had Due Process.
Why it's in the Constitution in the first place.
Why it's given to all People.

Your way of avoiding these very direct and pointed questions?
Is to dismiss it as Virtue Signaling.

@#83 ... Please explain to us why giving due process for all people the Wrong Side of the issue of who gets due process. ...

I await the answer(s).

@#84 ... if nothing else, you do put in the hours trying to spin ...

OK, the first reply (and only 11 minutes later... hover much? That raises other questions, but for now I'll pass)

That first reply looks like little more than an ad hominem attack and a deflection attempt.

Pooty Poot must have paid Jeffry today.
How's the weather in St. Petersburg today Jeffry?

Remember that time Trump pardoned a bunch of cop killers?

" Remember that time Trump pardoned a bunch of cop killers?

#92 | POSTED BY JOHNNY_HOTSAUCE AT 2025-04-26 11:08 PM | FLAG: "

I don't recall a pardon for any cop killers. And spare us the sanctimony - you likely despise cops and deem them irredeemable racists

You're a lying moron who supports Donald the rapist

Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-04-27 11:32 PM | Reply

THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

" You're a lying moron who supports Donald the rapist

#94 | POSTED BY JOHNNY_HOTSAUCE AT 2025-04-27 11:32 PM | FLAG: "

I support the truth. J6 was terrible. No cops were killed as a result. That is the truth.

YOU are a lying moron who supported the death and destruction of the riots of 2020 - fiery but mostly peaceful and all that ----. Go get bent, -------.

Curious observation ...

The SCottS current seems to have gone silent this evening, and the Bellringer current alias suddenly seems to come alive?

Coincidence?

I wish I knew.

Lamplighter,

I am not ScottS.

@#99 ... I am not ScottS. ...

OK, let's go with that.

Is your current alias, BellRinger, making that statement?

Or is the person (trolling team?) behind that current alias making that statement?

I know, details, details ....

But important details.

What's it got? ;)

OK, let's go with that.

I would. ScottS is more along the Ira Goldberg branch of crayon-eating sock puppets.

Yes, Brian Sicknick, a United States Capitol Police officer, is considered to have died in the line of duty. He passed away on January 7, 2021, after suffering two strokes, the day after responding to the attack on the U.S. Capitol. He was assaulted with pepper spray by two rioters during the event, and his death was connected to the events of that day. His cremated remains were laid in honor in the Capitol Rotunda and buried at Arlington National Cemetery.

YOU are a lying moron who supported the death and destruction of the riots of 2020 - fiery but mostly peaceful and all that ----. Go get bent, -------.

#97 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-04-27 11:48 PM | Reply
When you get caught making crap up you double down and lie some more Jeff. That's quite typical of you of course.

Sicknick dies of natural causes a day after J6. J6 was terrible. When we try to pile on and equate it with a mass extinction event the entire day gets reduces to parody.

Let's keep it real. Please.

Sicknick dies of natural causes a day after J6. J6 was terrible. When we try to pile on and equate it with a mass extinction event the entire day gets reduces to parody.
Let's keep it real. Please.

Posted by BellRinger at 2025-04-28 12:50 AM | Reply

GFY Jeff seriously.

Honor the truth, Laura Mohr.

@#104 ... Let's keep it real. Please. ...

Yes, let's.

www.npr.org (2021)

... In a statement, the U.S. Capitol Police said it accepts the medical examiner's finding.

"This does not change the fact Officer Sicknick died in the line of duty, courageously defending Congress and the Capitol," the statement said. ...

@#104 ...

And in keeping it real ...

What about the noose? or dragging Spkr Pelosi down the steps with her head bouncing on each step?

Trump chief of staff said the president thought Pence deserves' chants of hang Mike Pence' on Jan. 6, ex-aide testifies
www.cnbc.com

Texas man who stormed Capitol with gun gets 87 months in prison (2022)
www.koat.com

... A Texas man convicted of storming the U.S. Capitol with a holstered handgun, helmet and body armor was sentenced on Monday to 87 months " more than seven years " in prison, the longest sentence imposed so far among hundreds of Capitol riot cases.

Prosecutors said Guy Reffitt told fellow members of the Texas Three Percenters militia group that he planned to drag House Speaker Nancy Pelosi out of the Capitol building by her ankles, "with her head hitting every step on the way down," according to a court filing. ...