Monday, June 23, 2025

The Bombing of Iran, the End the War for US, Or Start of It?

The United States struck three key nuclear sites in Iran overnight, leaping into Israel's eight-day military campaign against Iran with bunker-buster bombs, in a dramatic American attack that could reshape the Middle East for decades to come.

Posted by LampLighter at 09:30 AM | 17 COMMENTS | permalink

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The United States should not wage war against Iran. Donald Trump's bombing of Iran is unconstitutional. Only Congress can declare war -- and the Senate must vote immediately to prevent an another endless war. This is a horrific war of choice.

-- Elizabeth Warren (@warren.senate.gov) Jun 21, 2025 at 9:51 PM

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... An Iranian official said that the strikes had done no irreversible damage to the country's nuclear program, which it insists is designed for peaceful purposes.

Mr. Trump said Iran "must make peace" -- underscoring his previous demand of "unconditional surrender" by Iran -- and said that, "If they do not, future attacks will be far greater."

The White House portrayed the strikes as a one-off action alongside Israel, meant to avoid drawing the U.S. into a long and costly "forever war" like Iraq and Afghanistan.

Iran immediately on Sunday launched waves of missiles at Israel in retaliation, and described the American attack as the beginning of a new, much broader escalation of conflict. ...


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-23 01:10 AM

@#1 ... The White House portrayed the strikes as a one-off action ...

While I hope this is the case, I will say, it remains to be seen.

#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-23 01:11 AM

One off action? So, it didn't work?

#3 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-06-23 01:14 AM

@#3 ... So, it didn't work? ...

Is it known yet, whether or not it worked?

#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-23 01:17 AM

Is it known yet, whether or not it worked?

I guess that depends on how you define "worked". Lewzer grabbed the headlines from Bibi, so I suppose it worked.

#5 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-06-23 01:25 AM

@#5 ... I guess that depends on how you define "worked" ...

Yes, it does depend upon that.

But not my definition of "worked," but Pres Trump's definition.

So, what did Pres Trump say his goal was going into this bombing?

And did he achieve that stated goal?


#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-23 01:41 AM

And did he achieve that stated goal?

He got the headlines back from Bibi, so yes.

#7 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-06-23 02:07 AM

@#7

While I wish I could counter the opinion you post, I cannot.

#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-23 02:59 AM

" The White House portrayed the strikes as a one-off action ..."

More magical thinking from the administration where fools always have a home.

#9 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-06-23 06:29 AM

#9: More magical thinking from the administration where fools always have a home.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/1RbC9IHiU9g/maxresdefault.jpg

#10 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-06-23 06:35 AM

We're going to get hit.

You can blame the enemy.

Donald Trump.

#11 | Posted by Zed at 2025-06-23 08:19 AM

Greg Sargent
@GregTSargent
Amazing. NYT has more confirmation that Trump's decision to bomb Iran was motivated in large part by the way the Israeli strikes were "playing" on Fox News, which drove him to want some credit for it

x.com

#12 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-06-23 09:00 AM

which drove him (Trump) to want some credit for it (the attacks)

#12 | POSTED BY REINHEITSGEBOT

Everyone knew that Trump would go to war over the divine madness of his own rotted ego.

#13 | Posted by Zed at 2025-06-23 09:27 AM

@#1 ... The White House portrayed the strikes as a one-off action ...
While I hope this is the case, I will say, it remains to be seen.
#2 | Posted by LampLighter

The White House already walked that back.

It was "Obliterated" to "damaged" the nuclear facilities.

Now they are saying more strikes may be necessary. Trump is talking about regime change. And there has been an admission that nothing short of an invasion will stop Iran's efforts at nuclear weapons.

MAGA is cheering it on of course.

#14 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-06-23 10:35 AM

The end? Maybe if Iran avoids directly attacking the US and instead continues its war with Israel. But the Felon in Chief may get pissy because her actions didn't warrant a response and order up another bombing run for more attention. One thing is almost a certainty, Iranian leadership likely speculates Iran would not be under siege from Israel if Iran had nuclear weapons. Felon, or rather her handlers, is floating the "regime change" balloon. So I suspect this is just the beginning of Felon's war crimes.

Personally, I feel we're witnessing first hand the Felon's attempt to solidify her name in America's history books. Desperate for any kind of legacy, Felon's actions seem to be those of one grasping at any action for which they will be enshrined, if even in infamy.

#15 | Posted by gavaster at 2025-06-23 10:36 AM

Does Iran really have a choice? There's gotta be a response.

Hopefully they'll be able to pick a surgical option and take out a golf course or two. Preferably while Lewzer is there.

#16 | Posted by DarkVader at 2025-06-23 10:45 AM

The end of the beginning maybe. Iran has 90 million people in it and more "friends" in the surrounding area. That's a third the size of America in population.

And we just helped wound it. And then bragged about it. These people are all about revenge and retribution. They have been living it for generations. They WILL attempt to get revenge. Americans will be hurt because of it.

A wounded beast is very dangerous.

#17 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-06-23 10:54 AM

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