The Bombing of Iran, the End the War for US, Or Start of It?

Monday, June 23, 2025

The United States struck three key nuclear sites in Iran overnight, leaping into Israel's eight-day military campaign against Iran with bunker-buster bombs, in a dramatic American attack that could reshape the Middle East for decades to come.

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The United States should not wage war against Iran. Donald Trump's bombing of Iran is unconstitutional. Only Congress can declare war -- and the Senate must vote immediately to prevent an another endless war. This is a horrific war of choice.
-- Elizabeth Warren (@warren.senate.gov) Jun 21, 2025 at 9:51 PM

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... An Iranian official said that the strikes had done no irreversible damage to the country's nuclear program, which it insists is designed for peaceful purposes.

Mr. Trump said Iran "must make peace" -- underscoring his previous demand of "unconditional surrender" by Iran -- and said that, "If they do not, future attacks will be far greater."

The White House portrayed the strikes as a one-off action alongside Israel, meant to avoid drawing the U.S. into a long and costly "forever war" like Iraq and Afghanistan.

Iran immediately on Sunday launched waves of missiles at Israel in retaliation, and described the American attack as the beginning of a new, much broader escalation of conflict. ...

#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-23 01:10 AM | Reply

@#1 ... The White House portrayed the strikes as a one-off action ...

While I hope this is the case, I will say, it remains to be seen.

#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-23 01:11 AM | Reply

One off action? So, it didn't work?

#3 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-06-23 01:14 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#3 ... So, it didn't work? ...

Is it known yet, whether or not it worked?

#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-23 01:17 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Is it known yet, whether or not it worked?

I guess that depends on how you define "worked". Lewzer grabbed the headlines from Bibi, so I suppose it worked.

#5 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-06-23 01:25 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#5 ... I guess that depends on how you define "worked" ...

Yes, it does depend upon that.

But not my definition of "worked," but Pres Trump's definition.

So, what did Pres Trump say his goal was going into this bombing?

And did he achieve that stated goal?

#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-23 01:41 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

And did he achieve that stated goal?

He got the headlines back from Bibi, so yes.

#7 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-06-23 02:07 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#7

While I wish I could counter the opinion you post, I cannot.

#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-23 02:59 AM | Reply

" The White House portrayed the strikes as a one-off action ..."

More magical thinking from the administration where fools always have a home.

#9 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-06-23 06:29 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#9: More magical thinking from the administration where fools always have a home.

#10 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-06-23 06:35 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

We're going to get hit.

You can blame the enemy.

Donald Trump.

#11 | Posted by Zed at 2025-06-23 08:19 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Greg Sargent
@GregTSargent
Amazing. NYT has more confirmation that Trump's decision to bomb Iran was motivated in large part by the way the Israeli strikes were "playing" on Fox News, which drove him to want some credit for it

x.com

#12 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-06-23 09:00 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

which drove him (Trump) to want some credit for it (the attacks)

#12 | POSTED BY REINHEITSGEBOT

Everyone knew that Trump would go to war over the divine madness of his own rotted ego.

#13 | Posted by Zed at 2025-06-23 09:27 AM | Reply

@#1 ... The White House portrayed the strikes as a one-off action ...
While I hope this is the case, I will say, it remains to be seen.
#2 | Posted by LampLighter

The White House already walked that back.

It was "Obliterated" to "damaged" the nuclear facilities.

Now they are saying more strikes may be necessary. Trump is talking about regime change. And there has been an admission that nothing short of an invasion will stop Iran's efforts at nuclear weapons.

MAGA is cheering it on of course.

#14 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-06-23 10:35 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

The end? Maybe if Iran avoids directly attacking the US and instead continues its war with Israel. But the Felon in Chief may get pissy because her actions didn't warrant a response and order up another bombing run for more attention. One thing is almost a certainty, Iranian leadership likely speculates Iran would not be under siege from Israel if Iran had nuclear weapons. Felon, or rather her handlers, is floating the "regime change" balloon. So I suspect this is just the beginning of Felon's war crimes.

Personally, I feel we're witnessing first hand the Felon's attempt to solidify her name in America's history books. Desperate for any kind of legacy, Felon's actions seem to be those of one grasping at any action for which they will be enshrined, if even in infamy.

#15 | Posted by gavaster at 2025-06-23 10:36 AM | Reply

Does Iran really have a choice? There's gotta be a response.

Hopefully they'll be able to pick a surgical option and take out a golf course or two. Preferably while Lewzer is there.

#16 | Posted by DarkVader at 2025-06-23 10:45 AM | Reply

The end of the beginning maybe. Iran has 90 million people in it and more "friends" in the surrounding area. That's a third the size of America in population.

And we just helped wound it. And then bragged about it. These people are all about revenge and retribution. They have been living it for generations. They WILL attempt to get revenge. Americans will be hurt because of it.

A wounded beast is very dangerous.

#17 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-06-23 10:54 AM | Reply

#16 | POSTED BY DARKVADER

You're right. There was. Seems to be minimal, considering what was bombed by the Felon. We'll see if Iran continues firing missiles or if they wait for Herr Felon to attack again.

#18 | Posted by gavaster at 2025-06-23 01:45 PM | Reply

Memories can be long.

#19 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-06-23 09:05 PM | Reply

Missiles will be fired for maximum effect when possible. By both sides.

I don't see Boots on the Ground.

No "Coalition of the Willing" in any real sense.

Iran can take the Punch. That's all they have to do to win.

Israel and the US have to Win Heart's and Minds to win.

In my opinion, which means little.

#20 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-06-23 10:21 PM | Reply

i0.wp.com

#21 | Posted by MSgt at 2025-06-24 01:30 PM | Reply

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#21 | Posted by MSgt

What face do you make when your cult leader promised peace and you end up getting more war?

#22 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-06-24 01:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#21 | POSTED BY MSGT

So is MAGA pro or anti war?

There's a bit of confusion about that right now.

#23 | Posted by Zed at 2025-06-24 01:36 PM | Reply

I'd like to believe we're at pease now. That'd be awesome. I'd even admit what Trump did was out of the box crazy and give him kudos if it ends the war between Israel and others. I'd say "yay!".

The middle east is filled with stupid. Israel isn't going anywhere. Time for the idiots that think otherwise to growthefcckup and understand that. It's also well past the time for Israel to stop being a genocidal hate-filled victim. I was with them when the horror of Oct 9th happened, but since then? Fcck 'em. Shooting all these starving people trying to get food in a desperate situation that exists because of Israel's own actions is just not acceptable. None of what's going on to the people of Gaza is acceptable.

I'm sick of both sides.

#24 | Posted by YAV at 2025-06-24 02:16 PM | Reply

Hm. "Pease".
Two pease in a pod?

Peace out.

#25 | Posted by YAV at 2025-06-24 02:19 PM | Reply

"Israel isn't going anywhere. Time for the idiots that think otherwise to growthefcckup and understand that."

Complete the thought:

As has been the case for 77 years, Israel will keep expanding, From The River To The Sea.

#26 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-24 02:21 PM | Reply

The US/Trump is/was not at war - just a more surgical strike than clinton, obama or biden did with all their attacks on multiple MidEast countries during their terma in office.

#27 | Posted by MSgt at 2025-06-24 10:46 PM | Reply

Tell that to the Iranians.

#28 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-06-25 06:19 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

The US/Trump is/was not at war - just a more surgical strike than clinton, obama or biden did with all their attacks on multiple MidEast countries during their terma in office.

#27 | Posted by MSgt

That's interesting because your cult was saying that Obama got us into a war in libya using the same definition.

Obama bombs libya = war.
Trump bombs iran = not war.

#29 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-06-25 12:48 PM | Reply