Saturday, September 20, 2025

No evidence of ties between Kirk shooting & left-wing groups

Three people familiar with the federal probe into Kirk's assassination told NBC News that investigators have yet to find a link between the alleged shooter and left-wing groups.

Posted by qcp at 12:22 PM | 77 COMMENTS | permalink

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We closed our eyes and could see no evidence.
We covered our ears and could hear no evidence.
We didn't look so we didn't find any evidence.
We investigated ourselves and determined we did nothing wrong.

Totally exonerated.

#1 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-09-20 01:18 PM

Why is Visitor_ reciting the MAGA pledge?

#2 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-20 01:20 PM

Totally exonerated.

#1 | Posted by visitor

No, the man murdered someone.

He's just not the person that you were slavering for him to be.

I don't suppose that it bothers you how eager for blood MAGA was because of Kirk?
But no one is "hunting you".

You'll look damned stupid if you kill someone over him now.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2025-09-20 01:59 PM

Bugsy Patel's handpicked flunkies haven't been able turn the groyper into an antifa super villain yet? Give it another two weeks.

#4 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-20 02:35 PM

Charlie Kirk was assassinated by the Trump administration in order to ramp up their authoritarianism.

#5 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-20 02:46 PM

Again, in the hearings last week, Kash claimed this attack took a lot of money and so had to have outside funding.

That's ---------.

Tyler Robinson allegedly drove his Dodge Challenger 4 hours to Orem, shot Kirk with grand dad's gun, then drove 4 hours home.

He shot Kirk for ~$70.

~ Emptywheel ~

#6 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-20 03:07 PM

Again, in the hearings last week, Kash claimed this attack took a lot of money and so had to have outside funding.
That's ---------.
Tyler Robinson allegedly drove his Dodge Challenger 4 hours to Orem, shot Kirk with grand dad's gun, then drove 4 hours home.
He shot Kirk for ~$70.
~ Emptywheel ~

#6 | Posted by reinheitsgebot

No. THIS is ---------.

Have you seen gas prices? And do you know the terrible mileage on a Challenger?

It was at least $105!

...I bet George Soros was behind it... Only he could afford such a complex operation...

#7 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-20 03:29 PM

The Trump administration just told reporters at the Pentagon they are forbidden from reporting anything that isn't government-approved.

Disobey, and their press credentials will be revoked.

This isn't routine. This is censorship. This is a direct assault on the First Amendment.

#8 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-20 03:34 PM

Charlie Kirk was assassinated by the Trump administration in order to ramp up their authoritarianism.

#5 | Posted by ClownShack

If he'll murder Epstein and sundry boat people, Kirk is small potatoes.

#9 | Posted by Zed at 2025-09-20 03:39 PM

You people are trying WAY too hard.

#10 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-21 09:00 PM

You MAGATs are killing your own.

#11 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-21 09:02 PM

"You people are trying WAY too hard."

Translation: No evidence of left-wing associations is PROOF of left-wing associations.

#12 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-21 09:20 PM

substack.com

Bathroom reading for JeffytheB.

#13 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-21 09:28 PM

No evidence of left-wing associations is PROOF of left-wing associations.

They cover their tracks well. Everyone is in on it.

#14 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-09-21 09:30 PM

George Soros is awfully crafty.

#15 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-21 09:37 PM

" Translation: No evidence of left-wing associations is PROOF of left-wing associations.

#12 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2025-09-21 09:20 PM | FLAG: "

He was steeped in left wing ideology. I seriously hope this reporting is accurate - that he's more of a lone wolf than part of a bigger group.

#16 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-21 10:14 PM

"He was steeped in left wing ideology."

Put up or shut up, clown-boy.

(But, you'll do neither)

#17 | Posted by Angrydad at 2025-09-21 10:55 PM


He was steeped in left wing ideology. I seriously hope this reporting is accurate - that he's more of a lone wolf than part of a bigger group.
#16 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Antifa, and TylerR isn't part of group or association, yet has left wing ideology. The whole idea of claiming no left-group, is to avoid guilt and is a ploy in the modern age of media.

Yet its easy to see much of the extremism pockets in America are "Stand Alone Complex" described 20 years ago in "Ghost in the Shell."

'A Stand Alone Complex (SAC) is a social phenomenon where individuals acting independently and without direct coordination converge toward a shared goal, forming a cohesive, unified effort that resembles a conspiracy or organized movement but lacks a central leader or originating source. This "copies without an original" concept emerges when multiple people independently perform similar actions, creating the illusion of a coordinated plot or a widespread phenomenon driven by shared, but unstated, purpose, like mass hysteria with a goal.'

Tyler's statement "I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be negotiated out." would indicate he's left of Kirk.

Personally I think he sounds like TruthHurts, or any other extremist on this website.

#18 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-21 11:13 PM

he's left of Kirk.

Who isn't? Nick Fuentes apparently.

#19 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-21 11:18 PM

Robinson combinesIAMRUNT's appreciation for Pepe the Frog and Patricide Jeff's love for the demented orange pedo.

#20 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-21 11:41 PM

nypost.com

Tyler Robinson and his boyfriend were reported to be involved with "furry fandom" or the "furry lifestyle".

en.wikipedia.org

That just doesn't strike me as a popular lifestyle for MAGAs.

#21 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-22 02:43 PM

Robinson family is all MAGA.

www.thedailybeast.com

#22 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-22 02:48 PM

"Tyler Robinson and his boyfriend were reported to be involved with "furry fandom" or the "furry lifestyle""

Is this Leftist?

I heard that they were involved in femboy stuff, characteristic of the degraded fascist Right.

#23 | Posted by Zed at 2025-09-22 03:10 PM

Zed,

"Is this Leftist?"

Is it something a conservative would do?

Pretty unlikely.

#24 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-22 04:03 PM

Ask Caitlin Jenner about MAGA trans people.

#25 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-22 04:09 PM

"Tyler Robinson and his boyfriend were reported to be involved with "furry fandom" or the "furry lifestyle""
Is this Leftist?
I heard that they were involved in femboy stuff, characteristic of the degraded fascist Right.
#23 | Posted by Zed

Zed,
"Is this Leftist?"
Is it something a conservative would do?
Pretty unlikely.
#24 | Posted by BillJohnson

I wouldn't have thought the whole febmboy thing would be conserative, but it is. Or maybe it isn't. It's radical RW. Are furries LW? Not that I know of, or maybe they are radical LW in the same way femboys are radical RW. Or maybe the problem is we are trying to force these groups into a left/right dichotomy that doesn't really apply. I've posted links outlining all of this in recent days.

#26 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-22 04:09 PM

Pretty unlikely.
#24 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

But not THAT unlikely.

Lt. Gov. Mark Robinson, the Republican candidate in a competitive race for governor of North Carolina, is facing new scrutiny in the wake of CNN reporting that he called himself a "black Nazi," said he wished he could own slaves and made dozens of other disturbing comments on a porn forum called "Nude Africa."

The posts by Robinson, a religious conservative who opposes trans rights, date from 2008 to 2012 and also include comments about abortion and enjoying porn featuring trans women.

#27 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-22 04:10 PM

Rein,

"Robinson family is all MAGA"

So?

Tyler is gay.

Unless Tyler is actually a conservative gay into furry costumes, that other alternative is liberal.

That's going to be a hard sell.

#28 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-22 04:13 PM

Bathhouse Bill, Robinson is a MAGAt. Deal with it.

#29 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-22 04:16 PM

Um, guys, if you haven't heard, the far left is celebrating this like a national holiday. They are getting kill Charlie Kirk tattoos. Posting death lists and saying "Do Elon next" and stuff. Big names are getting cancelled for it. Celebrations and calls for more violence where all over X and BlueSky. And YouTube. Did you hear Destiny saying all MAGA should be killed, and afraid of walking around in public and stuff? That was on CNN.

Dude's a left-wing hero. Also, trans furry stock is up 22%.

#30 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-09-22 04:23 PM

Unless Tyler is actually a conservative gay into furry costumes, that other alternative is liberal.
That's going to be a hard sell.
#28 | Posted by BillJohnson a

Bathhouse Bill, Robinson is a MAGAt. Deal with it.
#29 | Posted by reinheitsgebot

No, you both are stuck in the left/right dichotomy that likely does not apply here. Robinson is neither a liberal, nor MAGA. Good explanation of why trying to put Robisnon in a right/left dichotomy is "archaic and inaccurate":

bsky.app

#31 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-22 04:25 PM

The Trump costume and Pepe the Frog outfit scream MAGAt.

#32 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-22 04:31 PM

We still need to know more, but the assumption that Robisnon and his roommate must be liberals misses another possibility that I knew nothing of:

Tyler Robinson and the Extremist Internet Culture They Keep Getting Wrong
substack.com

Christopher Webb
@cwebbonline.com

You're going to be hearing a lot more about this.

Nick Fuentes & Groypers believe the "ideal woman" is a man. They hate women so much they groom fem-boys.

MAGA see Tyler Patterson's partner is "transitioning" and assume he's far left. That's way off. He's so far right it goes over MAGA's head.
bsky.app

#33 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-22 04:32 PM

The first bullet "Hey Fascist, catch", and then three down arrows. Tres Fletches, an antifa symbol. That's how we know.

Google "Tres Fletches antifa". www.google.com

"Today, the Three Arrows symbol has been widely appropriated by modern antifa movements in the United States and elsewhere. "

That's how we know.

#34 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-09-22 04:36 PM

Granny knows best.

www.the-independent.com

#35 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-22 04:39 PM

Oh, and his family and all his friends said he was a flaming liberal, and his father (Mormon) turned him in.

#36 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-09-22 04:45 PM

Tyler Robinson's grandmother says their entire family are Republicans: I don't know a single Democrat'

Robinson's grandmother admits he's a MAGAt pos.

#37 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-22 04:49 PM

Oh, and his family and all his friends said he was a flaming liberal, and his father (Mormon) turned him in.
Posted by HeliumRat

His mother didn't understand why he was wearing a Pepe costume or what that meant. She said, he said he was going as a meme. I doubt she knew anything about the online gamer culture he had been in for years. Some of his friends said he wasn't political. I think I read he wasn't registered as a Democrat or a Republican and he hadn't voted in recent years. I could be wrong, but I am coming to believe he isn't left or right in the way we have traditionally come to understand those terms.

#38 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-22 04:50 PM

#38 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday

I thought it was done out of love. You read his posts to his boyfriend, right? He wanted to protect him, and he saw Charlie Kirk as the most dangerous transphobe (other than R.K. Rowling). Why are people even having this discussion, his posts where released days ago.

It's a tragic love story. The trans-furry is probably traumatized too.

But you have to admit all the violent left-wing rhetoric led to this. Call people a Nazi? What do you with Nazi's? Well, you shoot them.

#39 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-09-22 04:56 PM


I could be wrong, but I am coming to believe he isn't left or right in the way we have traditionally come to understand those terms.

Of course not, not Gal_Karma, nothing he could EVER do could make him a "left" leaning person as "we have traditionally come to understand those terms"

So pathetic.

#40 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-22 04:57 PM

The racist degenerate who called for Biden's execution caught a round. What a shame.

#41 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-22 04:59 PM

But you have to admit all the violent left-wing rhetoric led to this. Call people a Nazi? What do you with Nazi's? Well, you shoot them.
#39 | Posted by HeliumRat

Kirk called the Biden adminstration Nazis/fascists and compared MAGA supporters to American soldiers who fought on D-Day:

bsky.app

#42 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-22 05:02 PM

Gal, #41 is what I'm talking about. That never happened. "Purity Test" (reinheitsgebot, that's the translation of his name from German) is ample proof this is happening.

#43 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-09-22 05:03 PM

nothing he could EVER do could make him a "left" leaning person

The fact he and his family are Trump supporters is why he could never be left leaning.

Just like you were never an "open borders, liberal".

#44 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-22 05:04 PM

"His mother didn't understand why he was wearing a Pepe costume or what that meant."
~ Gal_Karma

It wasn't Pepe, you cultural illiterate. Its the SlavicSquat, a viral trend in 2015 to today ...
www.instagram.com

#45 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-22 05:04 PM

It did happen, heliumtwunt.

ca.news.yahoo.com

#46 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-22 05:07 PM

Call people a Nazi? What do you with Nazi's? Well, you shoot them.

#39 | POSTED BY HELIUMRAT

Too funny.

What do Nazis do?

Shoot people.

#47 | Posted by Zed at 2025-09-22 05:08 PM

#42 That's another thing I'm talking about - 10 second clips shown out of context are everywhere on BlueSky, full of hate. Read the comments.

I dare you to find that clip in context. There's another one where he says "throw stones at the LGBTQ+ until they are dead" going around. In context, it was "Hundreds of years ago they used to...."

That's the hate and lies I'm talking about. That's what powered this, and the leftist celebrations still going on.

#48 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-09-22 05:10 PM

"His mother didn't understand why he was wearing a Pepe costume or what that meant."~ Gal_Karma
It wasn't Pepe, you cultural illiterate. Its the SlavicSquat, a viral trend in 2015 to today ...www.instagram.com
Posted by oneironaut

It was Pepe too. I read it on his mother's FB page before she took it down.

#49 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-22 05:11 PM

"Hundreds of years ago they used to...."throw stones at the LGBTQ+ until they are dead"

Is normalizing; giving permission.

#50 | Posted by Zed at 2025-09-22 05:11 PM

Trust me Zed, you are safe from Normalization.

#51 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-09-22 05:13 PM

Gal,

I voted for Reagan twice.

Then I got put off by conservatives. I was in a conservative church for years.

There were several things going on I saw and heard, considering I was in the middle of the culture.

In particular was one event that was the last straw. One weekend a couple invited my Sunday school class to their home for bbq and fellowship. It was pretty common for couples to do that. It was a rather large group.

While we were at his home he brought the entire group into one room and showed a film, It was an Amway presentation. Amway was a pyramid scheme popular then. A growing attitude back then and especially being encouraged to believe was "God wants you to be rich". While we were there, his wife had to leave for work. As she was leaving he yelled out to her, "Make us lots of money".

I changed nearly on the spot. I stopped supporting conservatives and instead supported democrats until Trump.

The idea Taylor was brought up conservative and some event just changed him quick as a wink is believable to me.

It happened to me.

#52 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-22 05:16 PM

Trust me Zed, you are safe from Normalization.

#51 | POSTED BY HELIUMRAT

I can't think of anyone I'd rather trust.

#53 | Posted by Zed at 2025-09-22 05:16 PM

"So? Tyler is gay."

So all gay people are Democrats?!?

Have you thought this all the way through?

#54 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-22 05:17 PM

" ... supported democrats until Trump."

That was a coincidence. You would've voted for ANY Republican, once the Democrats got gay marriage legalized.

#55 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-22 05:19 PM

Dan,

"So all gay people are Democrats?!?"

Some of your questions are really lame.

I'm sure you think they look intelligent but they don't.

Of course I don't believe all gays are Democrat. You're so shallow you think thats a clever "gotcha"

#56 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-22 05:22 PM

Dan,

"Gay marriage".

Lame

#57 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-22 05:23 PM

" Of course I don't believe all gays are Democrat. "

You should talk to BillJohnson, who upthread dismissed the idea the killer was right-wing ... BECAUSE HE IS GAY.

Have both your faces discuss it, and see if you can choose one consistent position.

#58 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-22 05:28 PM

""Gay marriage". Lame"

It's the exact timeline. That's not a coincidence.

#59 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-22 05:29 PM

-While we were at his home he brought the entire group into one room and showed a film, It was an Amway presentation. Amway was a pyramid scheme popular then. A growing attitude back then and especially being encouraged to believe was "God wants you to be rich". While we were there, his wife had to leave for work. As she was leaving he yelled out to her, "Make us lots of money".

You flipped your political ideology over a ------ Amway pitch?

WTF is wrong with you? I must have seen that ---- 6 or 7 times...I might have changed my perception of the dolts who were pitching it to me but my political beliefs?

#60 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-22 05:37 PM

Eb,

"You flipped your political ideology over a ------ Amway pitch?"

Did you catch that I said "last straw".

You and Dan just can't see suttle clues.

You and tons of other people pick up a word or single thought and build an entire conclusion what it means.

Ok..more true story.

Once I had a job that sent me to Falwell's elementary school for the day. One of the teachers showed me a memo all teachers were now required to donate 10% of their paycheck to his church. That mixed with my observations about Moral Majority and Reagan mocking my faith and seeing so many going along with it just upset me.

Then soon after I attended a Sunday school get together and they fooled us into watching a presentation. He had a captive audience.

Thus "last straw". I take my faith serious and felt like I was lied to and tricked. And yelling at his wife "make lots of money". It was an Amway presentation and not a social function.

#61 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-22 06:14 PM

#61 | Posted by BillJohnson

I had fundamentalist relatives in a doomsday cult. Had to spend summers and holidays with them. Made me a hippy liberal real quick.

Living wage, colorblind society, peace, medicare for all, and tariffs on the slave nations. Been that way since I was like 12 or something.

P.S. How many times did you get to read "The Late Great Planet Earth?" :)

#62 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-09-22 06:48 PM

Hel,

"I had fundamentalist relatives in a doomsday cult. Had to spend summers and holidays with them. Made me a hippy liberal real quick.
Living wage, colorblind society, peace, medicare for all, and tariffs on the slave nations. Been that way since I was like 12 or something."

When the world didn't end, what did they tell you?

#63 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-22 10:12 PM

Hel,

"Made me a hippy liberal real quick."

From my observation, a lot of the hippy liberals sold out in the 80's and became capitalists once they realized "free love" wasn't actually free.

#64 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-22 10:16 PM


From my observation, a lot of the hippy liberals sold out in the 80's and became capitalists once they realized "free love" wasn't actually free.

#64 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Is that what happened? I was always wondering how the US went from young hippies (60's) to Wall Street capitalist (80's).

These are the same Boomers that control 50% of household wealth in the country.

#65 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-22 10:42 PM

@#64 ... From my observation, a lot of the hippy liberals sold out in the 80's and became capitalists once they realized "free love" wasn't actually free. ...

Yeah, those "hippy liberals" (as your current alias calls them) had some events to deal with.

The assignation of JFK.

The assassination of RFK.

The assassination of MLK.

So, as your comment seems to assert (and I do disagree) those hippies became Republicans, apparently abandoning their moral standards, to make money.

So, how many of those "hippy liberals" can your current alias account for?




#66 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-09-22 11:01 PM

Lamp....

www.youtube.com

#67 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-22 11:49 PM

Lamp,

The 80's was a decade of massive change. We were told "greed is good" by Gordon Gekko. Not only was it good, it was fashionable and even morally acceptable.

"Money, Money, Money" became the anthem. Even religion and the counterculture sold out. Televangelists built empires, MTV turned rebellion into a TV ad, and yesterday's flower children traded beads for BMWs.

At any cost, the ends justified the means.

This mindset rolled right into the 90s, where deregulation and cozy oversight let things like Enron's accounting games flourish until the whole house of cards collapsed in 2001, reminding everyone that when greed becomes a virtue, collapse is right around the corner.

#68 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-23 09:06 AM

FYI: Donald Trump is the poster boy for greed:

Trump: I'm very greedy'
01/09/16 2:59 PM ET

"Now, I'll tell you, I'm good at that--so, you know, I've always taken in money," he said at a rally in Iowa. "I like money. I'm very greedy. I'm a greedy person. I shouldn't tell you that, I'm a greedy--I've always been greedy. I love money, right?

"But, you know what? I want to be greedy for our country. I want to be greedy. I want to be so greedy for our country. I want to take back money," he added.

thehill.com

Trump is still being greedy for himself. Now more than ever I'd say.

#69 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-23 09:16 AM

Trump wants to be a king so badly, maybe we should call him the King of Greed.

#70 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-23 09:20 AM

RE: #70

genius.com

#71 | Posted by TrueBlue at 2025-09-23 09:32 AM

Gal,

"Trump wants to be a king so badly, maybe we should call him the King of Greed."

But he can't be a king, can he? Don't go all Tom Hanks with the "oh me, oh my" face.

Years ago I saw Trump use bankruptcy as a business plan and yes, back then even I did the "oh me oh my" face.

Now? So what. Is he functioning within the law? Ummm ... who knows. Like he said in a debate, he's rich and takes advantage of every loophole he can. If you don't like it, change the laws.

What do we need in the White House? Mr. Clean or someone who plays to win?

Get real. He's not running for Pope.

It's a hard, nasty world. For now, he's the man for the job and not another wimpy Democrat.

We've got wars, a shaky economy, enemies within our own border and somehow he's still standing.

He's like the Energizer Bunny. "Takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'". (Yes, I'm showing my age " who remembers that ad campaign?)

#72 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-23 10:24 AM

It's a hard, nasty world. For now, he's the man for the job and not another wimpy Democrat.
We've got wars, a shaky economy, enemies within our own border and somehow he's still standing.
He's like the Energizer Bunny. "Takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'". (Yes, I'm showing my age " who remembers that ad campaign?)

Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-23 10:24 AM | Reply

ROFLMMFAO HEHEHEHEHE. That's hilarious. You're full of BS crap as per the usual.

#73 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-09-23 10:36 AM

#74 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-09-23 10:36 AM

Laura,

Yea...Kamala in office...

ROFLMMFAO HEHEHEHEHE

#75 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-23 10:43 AM

Yea...Kamala in office...
ROFLMMFAO HEHEHEHEHE

Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-23 10:43 AM | RepAt least she's not a traitor to the to the United States of America like Trump 3

#76 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-09-23 10:52 AM

Laura,

"At least she's not a traitor to the to the United States of America"

Laura,

"At least she's not a traitor to the United States of America."

Oh, really? The Biden family took millions from China, Ukraine, and who knows where else while Joe was VP. They were selling influence like it was a yard sale.

If that's not betraying the country for personal gain, what is?

#77 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-23 11:18 AM

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