Tuesday, March 03, 2026

Murdered mom deserves better than lame excuses

When a 41-year-old mother is murdered at a bus stop, who bothers to protest? Stephanie Minter's death is as closely tied to the nation's immigration debate as Alex Pretti's or Renee Good's. But while Pretti and Good died while trying to prevent the enforcement of our country's immigration laws, Minter died precisely because those laws were not enforced. Abdul Jalloh, the man alleged to have stabbed Minter to death in Fairfax County, Virginia, should never have set foot in America.

Posted by BellRinger at 10:46 AM | 142 COMMENTS | permalink

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FTA:

" He came here illegally from Sierra Leone in 2012, and since then he's illegally done just about everything else imaginable:

Jalloh was arrested more than 30 times -- for everything from drug possession and trespassing to assault, malicious wounding and rape -- before he finally turned an innocent woman into a pincushion ... ... .

A case like his ought to make defenders of illegal immigration and leniency toward repeat offenders rethink their values:

It's not compassionate to go easy on men like Jalloh -- it's cruel to victims like Minter and the others he preyed upon.

But progressives only protest when lawbreakers are the "victims," and in their topsy-turvy worldview, it's police who are more dangerous than criminals.

So no one will take to the streets over Stephanie's slaying -- in politics, her life doesn't matter.

The politicians progressives have lately put into office promise to make murders like Minter's harder to prevent"

#1 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-03-03 10:48 AM

1 | Posted by BellRinger

Trump/MAGA searching for the moral high ground is worthless.

You are an organization of intellectual and moral sheep being led by a sociopathic criminal.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2026-03-03 10:59 AM

| Posted by BellRinger

There are at least a dozen intelligent and ethically-centered posters here who could come up with a better plan to deal with migrants than you and the rest of Trum/MAGA have done.

There are at least a dozen who could come up with a better way of dealing with the new Trump/MAGA Neocon war with Iran.

You are such empty, empty people.

Brains and souls you're short on, but vocal cords allow you to screech.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2026-03-03 11:04 AM

Dude.

Texan MAGA dad killed his daughter for questioning his support for Trump and the jury applauded his actions.

There have been 58 mass shootings in America since January 1st 2026: www.gunviolencearchive.org

You didn't post about any.

But when one immigrant kills someone and it's time to panic?

Why don't you go relax and soak your head in bleach, Trump recommends!

#4 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-03-03 11:09 AM

Also you ------- piece of ----, you don't get to downplay the federal government killing Renee Good and Alex Pretti for no ------- reason.

---- you.

---- Trump.

---- your whole cult.

Karma is a bitch.

Just wait and see.

#5 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-03-03 11:12 AM

Lemme guess, Zed. This woman, Minter, who was stabbed to death, she got exactly what she deserved, right?

Was her skirt too short?

#6 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-03-03 11:13 AM

It's always interesting watching certain lefties side with someone who brutally murdered a woman for no reason at all.

#7 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-03-03 11:14 AM

"Minter's death is as closely tied to the nation's immigration debate as Alex Pretti's or Renee Good's."

^
You think Good and Pretti both deserved to be killed.

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-03-03 11:15 AM

#6 | Posted by BellRinger

My point is that you, and you people, guilt-trip others about a morality you don't have.

Contemplate the word I used: "empty".

#9 | Posted by Zed at 2026-03-03 11:16 AM

It's always interesting watching certain lefties side with someone who brutally murdered a woman for no reason at all.

#7 | Posted by BellRinger

People are taking a side against YOU and your "movement".

#10 | Posted by Zed at 2026-03-03 11:17 AM

It's always interesting watching certain lefties side with someone who brutally murdered a woman for no reason at all.
#7 | Posted by BellRinger

You side with Trump.
But it's not particularly interesting watching you side with a serial------------.
It's about as surprising as water being wet.

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-03-03 11:17 AM

| Posted by BellRinger

Maybe you're the wronf person to advance a moral argument?

Maybe you're like FORTFISHER, who in another thread is laughing at American war dead?

Peas of a pod.

#12 | Posted by Zed at 2026-03-03 11:19 AM

Google search results:

"As of the end of February 2026, over 1,000 people have been killed by gun violence in the United States in the first 31 days of 2026 alone, with 74 people killed in 56 mass shootings through February 28, 2026"

BullBringer:

"Everyone focus on this one killing! It matters more than all the rest! Cause immigints!"

#13 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-03-03 11:20 AM

Since Trump's policy of mass incarceration and concentration camps, more people have been killed by ICE than have been killed by illegal immigrants.

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-03-03 11:37 AM

#13 Clownshack just made the argument against vigils and protests over the Good and Pretti shootings.

#15 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-03-03 11:40 AM

"#13 Clownshack just made the argument against vigils and protests over the Good and Pretti shootings."

Only if you think the government and the illegal immigrant should be held to the same standard.

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-03-03 11:41 AM

" People are taking a side against YOU and your "movement".

#10 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2026-03-03 11:17 AM | FLAG: "

Whatever it is you think you are doing it's caused you to side for a brutal murder illegal alien who never should have even been in this country.

#17 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-03-03 11:41 AM

So, according to Snoofy's "logic"being killed by LEO is a lot morepainful for the deceased's loved ones than than if their loved one was murdered by an illegal alien. Heck, Minter's family shouldn't even feel bad about her death since she was killed by an illegal alien. Where is their compassion for this troubled man who is trying to make a life for himself here?

#18 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-03-03 11:44 AM

"caused you to side for a brutal murder illegal alien"

Is this like when Trump's lawyers sided with a brutal rapist, during the E Jean Carroll case?

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-03-03 11:45 AM

Zed is blaming this woman's death on, wait for it ... .Donald Trump.

#20 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-03-03 11:45 AM

"being killed by LEO is a lot morepainful for the deceased's loved ones"

I never said anything about the deceased loved ones.

#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-03-03 11:46 AM

Patricide Jeff cheered for Brian Sicknick's death.

#22 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2026-03-03 11:48 AM

150 dead Iranian girls say Ballwasher is a stupid ----

#23 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2026-03-03 11:49 AM

Legal and humane Immigration Enforcement Saves Lives

Too bad that's not what this administration is doing.

#24 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-03-03 11:52 AM

Only if you think the government and the illegal immigrant should be held to the same standard.
#16 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

He holds Republicans and ICE to zero standards.

Matter of fact, he supported and defended the killings of Renee Good and Alex Pretti.

#25 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-03-03 11:59 AM

Hey BullBringer.

What happened to Trump's wall???

Isn't that what you voted for in 2016?

Why do we still have an "open border"?

Trump has spent more time attacking and destroying Minnesota than he has spent "securing" the southern border.

I mean. I know republicans are ignorant, do you consider Minnesota to be the southern border?

This death is on Trump.

Trump killed this women.

#26 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-03-03 12:03 PM

Jeff can't understand the difference between an immigrant committing violence and the state committing violence

#27 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-03 12:11 PM

Jeff is full of more straw than the Scarecrow in the wizard of oz

#28 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-03 12:13 PM

Jeff can't understand that this case is an outlier... that per capita, immigrants commit less crimes than do US citizens... and FAR less violent crimes.

So he very dishonestly takes an outlier case and pretends it's the norm.

SO much like Trump in that respect, he is.

#29 | Posted by Corky at 2026-03-03 12:16 PM

Jeff can't or won't answer as to why Jalloh wasn't deported in accordance with Piggy's stated goal of targeting the worst of the worst. I can't imagine anyone would have supported that action.

#30 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-03 12:17 PM

www.nbcwashington.com

News4 is awaiting word on why ICE did not pick up Jalloh after any of his many stays at the Fairfax County jail in recent years.

"If ICE didn't do their job and remove him when they had the opportunity, then part of the blame lands on them," Kennedy said. "What happened? What paperwork error happened? Was there a judge involved that blocked deportation?"

Why didn't ICE deport this violent criminal in the 13 months since Piggy was inaugurated?

Maybe ICE was too busy terrorizing children and the elderly

I blame ICE for this lady's murder

#31 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-03 12:20 PM

Again, why didn't ICE deport this guy?

I would have wholeheartedly support that deportation!

Piggy is to blame for this murder

#32 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-03 12:21 PM

Jeff why did ICE not deport this murderer?

WHY! God damn it!

#33 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-03 12:21 PM

It truly is amazing that you scratch the surface of right wing propaganda and you see Piggy's administration failing

OVER AND OVER AND OVER

#34 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-03 12:22 PM

Jeff why did ICE not deport this murderer?

how come jeff? Explain!

#35 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-03 12:23 PM

that's what I thought, the bitch will disappear

#36 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-03 12:23 PM

Funny how jeff thought this would be an indictment of progressive values but all it shows is the utter and complete failure of piggy's policies

#37 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-03 12:25 PM

The guy has been in the country illegall since 2012 and Twoothy blames his presence here on Trump. Fairfax country Virginia. Currently controlled by Democrats who are fiercely opposed to any actions taken by ICE and since the ,ost recent election have reverted back to so- called sanctuary policies that prohibit state cooperation with ICE. Februaruy 23 is the date of her stabbing murder.

#38 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-03-03 12:29 PM

Using a dead woman as a political football and excuse for you bigoted stupidity is vile, ballwasher.

What a pathetic ghoul you've become.

#39 | Posted by jpw at 2026-03-03 12:29 PM

At this point the most prudent action isn't to deport but to prosecute him for murder. Will a prosecutor in Fairfax be willing to do so? I'd. Like to hope so but given the number of times he's been arrested and the severity of his crimes he's always gotten little more than a slap on the wrist.

#40 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-03-03 12:31 PM

"per capita, immigrants commit less crimes than do US citizens... and FAR less violent crimes."

Wha?!? Bellringer leaving out the important part??? Misrepresenting the truth, for partisan political reasons?

STOP THE PRESSES!!!

#41 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-03-03 12:32 PM

" Using a dead woman as a political football and excuse for you bigoted stupidity is vile, ballwasher."

So, you're in the lefty camp that her life didn't matter because she was murdered by an illegal alien and it's somehow bigoted knowing that piece of dung had no business even being in this country. It's been amazing you get so wrapped up in left wing ideology that you cant even demonstrate basic humanity.

#42 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-03-03 12:33 PM

Danforth conflating legal immigrants with illegal immigrants.

STOP THE PRESSES!

#43 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-03-03 12:34 PM

"blames his presence here on Trump."

Trump ran on a promise of deporting the violent illegal immigrants.
Trump failed to keep that promise.

#44 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-03-03 12:35 PM

That's the best you got, ----? Piggy stated he would prioritize the worst of the worst. This guy obviously falls into that category.

Instead of targeting him, Piggy sends 5-year-olds to prison camps, swarms residential neighborhoods with thugs, ships innocent people to Salvadoran concentration camps, killing US citizens.

Too farcking funny you can't blame Piggy for HIS obvious failure

#45 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-03 12:36 PM

"Currently controlled by Democrats who are fiercely opposed to any actions taken by ICE"

Virginia just got a new Democratic Governor.
The prior Republican governor didn't do anything about this either.

#46 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-03-03 12:36 PM

So, you're in the lefty camp that her life didn't matter

I'm not even addressing this nonsense.

F*&^ you you stupid pile of s*&^.

#47 | Posted by jpw at 2026-03-03 12:37 PM

www.google.com

As of mid-2025, immigration enforcement in Virginia, including Fairfax County, has seen a sharp increase under the Trump administration, with over 4,200 total arrests statewide in the first seven months of 2025. While specific, cumulative numbers for Fairfax County alone are not publicly detailed, the state's deportation orders have surged, with over 2,000 people ordered removed early in the year.
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Key details:
Statewide Surge: ICE arrests in Virginia soared by 470% in 2025 compared to previous periods.
Local Impact: Fairfax County is part of the Washington DC field office coverage area, where targeted operations have occurred.
Policy Focus: The increased enforcement targets individuals regardless of criminal history.
Detainer Policies: While not a sanctuary jurisdiction, the Fairfax County Sheriff's Office requires judicial orders to hold suspects for ICE, limiting direct, automatic cooperation.
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The crackdown in 2025, with over 3,000 arrests in the first five months, placed Virginia as a major focus for federal immigration enforcement.

#48 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-03 12:37 PM

"At this point the most prudent action isn't to deport but to prosecute him for murder."

Too bad Trump let this violent illegal alien roam free since noon on Jan 20, 2025.

#49 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-03-03 12:37 PM

At this point the most prudent action isn't to deport but to prosecute him for murder. Will a prosecutor in Fairfax be willing to do so? I'd. Like to hope so but given the number of times he's been arrested and the severity of his crimes he's always gotten little more than a slap on the wrist.

#40 | Posted by BellRinger

Then blame virginia state law you ------- moron

#50 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-03 12:41 PM

Why is Trump letting millions of undocumented immigrants enter the country?

There's a crisis at the southern border!

Trump is flying in million of immigrants!!!

It's fascinating how after Trump did absolutely nothing at all, all the hyperbole about the southern border and invasions of immigrants simply disappeared.

I'm sure it will happen next time a democrat is president.

#51 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-03-03 12:41 PM

" you're in the lefty camp that her life didn't matter"

Bookmark this, Bellringer, for when you need the quintessential example of a strawman.

#52 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-03-03 12:41 PM

I'm a borderline Hall of Fame troll, Alexandrite. I easily elicit multiple responses with a single post. And it doesn't take any effort.
#27 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-04-06 05:42 PM

#53 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-03 12:42 PM

This woman's murder is the fault of Piggy's failed immigration policies.

#54 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-03 12:43 PM

"Twoothy blames his presence here on Trump."

Trump had four years to get him out initially, and then another year, after Trump promised to go after the worst of the worst.

Instead, he went after janitors, pastors, and abuelas in America for decades, while seemingly ignoring gang members and violent criminals.

One central flaw is ICE agents are rewarded for arrests, including false ones.

Is that what Republicans voted for???

#55 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-03-03 12:49 PM

Jeff why did ICE not deport this murderer?

13 months into the fourth reich and it still isn't President Pedo's fault.

#56 | Posted by Nixon at 2026-03-03 12:50 PM

"onflating legal immigrants with illegal immigrants."

Not when it comes to Actual Math.

What kind of math are YOU using? (As if I had to guess)

#57 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-03-03 12:51 PM

**** 6 Jan Maniac Pardoned by Dummkopf Trumpf Stalked Women; Assaulted Passenger on Metro ****

Bryan Betancur (28), who spent four months in prison for participating in the 6 Jan attack on the US Capitol, was arrested for assaulting a person on the Metro.

Link: www.wusa9.com

#58 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-03-03 12:51 PM

Whatever it is you think you are doing it's caused you to side for a brutal murder illegal alien

#17 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

No one's doing that.

Saying that someone is, is just another tired MAGA game.

#59 | Posted by Zed at 2026-03-03 12:54 PM

"conflating legal immigrants with illegal immigrants."

The stats I mentioned are include illegal immigrants, if that's the question.

And this has been true for decades, along with the FACT that both have always been net economic plusses.

#60 | Posted by Corky at 2026-03-03 12:57 PM

" No one's doing that."

On this thread every one is doing it to an extent. Everyone here is pissed off at me for having the temerity to even cremate this thread.
And no one, not a single person has expressed any remorse for this woman or her loved ones. Nobody here is actually condemned this piece of human filth's actions. Everyone here lost their minds over good and Pretti. You know what I said about the officers who shot them? That they will most likely be sharing a cell with Derek Chauvin. That while Pretti and Good were impeding LE that type of action calls for an arrest, not deadly force.

#61 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-03-03 01:02 PM

" The stats I mentioned are include illegal immigrants, if that's the question"

In order for that kind of analysis to be accurate, the two distinct groups need to be counted separately. Hardly anyone has any problem with people who came here and reside here legally. But for reasons only God knows, way too many lefties fell the need to put illegal aliens on a pedestal.

#62 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-03-03 01:04 PM

On this thread every one is doing it to an extent. Everyone here is pissed off at me for having the temerity to even cremate this thread.
And no one, not a single person has expressed any remorse for this woman or her loved ones. Nobody here is actually condemned this piece of human filth's actions. Everyone here lost their minds over good and Pretti. You know what I said about the officers who shot them? That they will most likely be sharing a cell with Derek Chauvin. That while Pretti and Good were impeding LE that type of action calls for an arrest, not deadly force.

#61 | Posted by BellRinger

You're a lying piece of ----

Jeff can't or won't answer as to why Jalloh wasn't deported in accordance with Piggy's stated goal of targeting the worst of the worst. I can't imagine anyone would have supported that action.

#30 | Posted by truthhurts

That is me saying Jalloh is the worst of the worst and should have been deported

I have repeatedly referred to Jalloh as a murderer

You're the one who doesn't understand the difference between an immigrant committing violence and the state committing violence.

But you;re a liar so there is that

#63 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-03 01:17 PM

Hardly anyone has any problem with people who came here and reside here legally.

The piggy administration does

#64 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-03 01:17 PM

"Their eating the cats! Their eating the dogs!"

#65 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-03 01:18 PM

Pound for pound people love candy... I have the numbers. Black licorice was included in the stats. Corky's conclusion, people love black licorice.

#66 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2026-03-03 01:22 PM

"But for reasons only God knows, way too many lefties fell the need to put illegal aliens on a pedestal."

You're really in love with that lie.
Show us where this is happening.
You can't.
It isn't.

#67 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-03-03 01:43 PM

"Everyone here is pissed off at me for having the temerity to even cremate this thread."

Hire illegals to post your threads.
Then the liberals will have to love them.
Moron.

#68 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-03-03 01:44 PM

Abdul Jalloh: Some dude here illegally, murders a person, gets arrested and will likely go to jail for life

ICE: GOVERNMENT AGENTS, murder MORE people, will get a BONUS and get CELEBRATED by the Right

Jeff Pedo Bellringer: "Why are liberals pissed about ICE?"

Hi Pedo Jeff,

I'll break out the crayons for your Pedo loving ass.

Trump didn't deport him for the 5 years he was in office. Including all of 2025. They were busy rounding up people at Home Deport and Elementary Schools rather than going after actual criminals with violent convictions.

He has ONE violent serious conviction in 2023. He went to STATE PRISON. And he was let out of STATE PRISON while a REPUBLICAN Attorney General was in charge and during TRUMP'S TERM AND TRUMP DID NOTHING. So called Sanctuary Cities don't control STATE PRISONS.

He had an order for removal since 2020 and ICE did NOT remove him even though they knew EXACTLY where he was in prison in 2025.

Welcome to the Real World, Pedo. Facts don't care about your racist, pedo loving feelings.

Murdered Mom deserves better than your Xenophobia, you racist, pedo piece of human garbage.

#69 | Posted by Sycophant at 2026-03-03 01:51 PM

Hardly anyone has any problem with people who came here and reside here legally.
#62 | Posted by BellRinger

ICE does.
Remember the father and five year old boy ICE detained?
They are both here legally.

Why did ICE detain them?
You'll never, ever answer direct questions about anything ICE does.
You're a coward.

#70 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-03-03 01:53 PM

Jeff thinks he's a hero for posting this thread.

------- hilarious.

#71 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-03-03 01:57 PM

" Murdered Mom deserves better than your Xenophobia, you racist, pedo piece of human garbage.

#69 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT AT 2026-03-03 01:51 PM | FLAG: "

Now you're going to bust out the xenophobe card. So pathetic and so on brand for you.

#72 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-03-03 02:01 PM

Had he been detained for deportation prior to the fatal stabbing Sen Van Hollen would have had margaritas with him and everyone on the left and much of MSM (same thing) would be weeping for his release and calling him "Virginia Man."

#73 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-03-03 02:03 PM

But while Pretti and Good died while trying to prevent the enforcement of our country's immigration laws

Hey, just a reminder.

---- you.

Renee Good and Alex Pretti weren't trying to stop ----.

Renee was simply in her car minding her own business and Alex was trying to help a couple of women who were being attacked.

---- you, you stupid ------- piece of ----.

You can't lie about what we all know is the truth.

You ------- piece of ----.

#74 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-03-03 02:13 PM

This article is a lie and slander.

No wonder BullBringer posted it.

RCade is failing the DR by allowing you to post sensational garbage.

#75 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-03-03 02:14 PM

America is nothing more than a fascist nation.

All our media is controlled by Pro Trump Billionaires who have killed all news about the ongoing assault of Minnesota.

#76 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-03-03 02:17 PM

"Hardly anyone has any problem with people who came here and reside here legally."

Nonsense. Republicans made up a story about them eating the dogs and cats, to the point where the school and the city hall had to close due to terrorist threats.

Here legally...and the folks you enable put their lives in danger..all to score political points.

You built that!

#77 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-03-03 02:26 PM

BullBringer is a xenophobic, anti American piece of ----.

#78 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-03-03 02:34 PM

#66 | Posted by kwrx25

No, dimwit, here's the numbers you could have looked up rather than looking stupid:

"Violent Crime Comparison:

Research from the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS) found that U.S.-born citizens are over 2 times more likely to be arrested for violent crimes than undocumented immigrants."

Incarceration Rates: According to a 2025 analysis by the Cato Institute, the 2023 incarceration rate for native-born Americans was 1,221 per 100,000, compared to 613 per 100,000 for illegal immigrants.

Homicide Rates: In Texas, which provides unique data by tracking immigration status at arrest, undocumented immigrants had a homicide conviction rate 14% to 26% lower than native-born Americans between 2012 and 2022.

Long-term Trends: A Stanford University study found that immigrants have had lower incarceration rates than U.S.-born individuals for over 150 years"

www.google.com

It's almost like your only source of information on... well, everything, is Trump's Lies.

#79 | Posted by Corky at 2026-03-03 02:41 PM

Now you're going to bust out the xenophobe card. So pathetic and so on brand for you.

#72 | Posted by BellRinger

Hey s*&^bag, like it or not, your willingness to accept everything that's going on and throw around the rhetoric you're throwing around simply because it's being used against immigrants is a massive supporting piece of evidence of that.

Idiot.

#80 | Posted by jpw at 2026-03-03 02:53 PM

Fact: there have been over 1000 homicides in America just this year.

Fact: Jeff doesn't care about dead Americans, he only cares that he can blame an immigrant for this specific death.

The dead woman? Nothing more than political fodder.

#81 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-03-03 02:55 PM

Now you're going to bust out the xenophobe card. So pathetic and so on brand for you.
#72 | POSTED BY BULLBRINGER

Are you this clueless?

Let me do you a favor, find a mirror, stare yourself directly in the face and say the following, "I am a xenophobe."

Hope that helps.

#82 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-03-03 02:58 PM

Everyone here is pissed off at me for having the temerity to even cremate this thread.

#61 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Everone is pissed off at you for being a transparent, pompous hypocrite.

#83 | Posted by Zed at 2026-03-03 03:00 PM

" Hey s*&^bag, like it or not, your willingness to accept everything that's going on and throw around the rhetoric you're throwing around simply because it's being used against immigrants is a massive supporting piece of evidence of that.

Idiot.

#80 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2026-03-03 02:53 PM | REPLY"

So now you are going to conflate legal and illegal immigrants. This is pathetic.

#84 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-03-03 03:15 PM

JFC...the linked "commentary" is absolute horse manure...just like the POS the posted it.

#85 | Posted by Angrydad at 2026-03-03 03:22 PM

" while Pretti and Good died while trying to prevent the enforcement of our country's immigration laws..."

I stopped there.

The author is already gaslighting.

#86 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-03-03 03:27 PM

The author is full of ----.

Which is why BullBringer posted the article.

#87 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-03-03 03:31 PM

Bellringer, for the record:

Do YOU believe "...Pretti and Good died while trying to prevent the enforcement of our country's immigration laws"...?

#88 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-03-03 03:37 PM

So now you are going to conflate legal and illegal immigrants. This is pathetic.

#84 | Posted by BellRinger

Irrelevant. This is just a canned line you've been trained to toss out there same as the "but we're not a democracy, we're a republic" is barfed up every time people point out the degradation of our democratic institutions.

#89 | Posted by jpw at 2026-03-03 03:40 PM

" Irrelevant"

Oh really? Of course you can't explain why. You've become so beholden to leftism these days. I rarely see any independent thought from you any more.

#90 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-03-03 05:01 PM

"Pretti and Good died while trying to prevent the enforcement of our country's immigration laws"

Mohammed Atta died because airport security failed to prevent the terrorists from boarding the planes on 9/11.

#91 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-03-03 05:01 PM

"You've become so beholden to leftism these days. I rarely see any independent thought from you any more."

The Constitution says the law applies equally to citizens and immigrants.
Or is that only a Leftist belief?

#92 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-03-03 05:05 PM

You've become so beholden to leftism these days. I rarely see any independent thought from you any more.
#90 | POSTED BY BULLBRINGER

You're a literal mouthpiece for the Trump administration.

You get your opinions from fascists and are so absolutely clueless, believe yourself to be moderate.

There have been 58 mass shootings and over 1000 people murdered since January 1st, 2026.

Why didn't you post about any of those other homicides?

Why did you post this article?

The answer is simple. Xenophobia.

#93 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-03-03 05:58 PM

Bellringer, for the record:

Do YOU believe "...Pretti and Good died while trying to prevent the enforcement of our country's immigration laws"...?
#88 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

Of course he does.

He's a piece of ---- several of you keep giving the benefit of the doubt to.

He's not a decent human being or a good person.

It's because of people like him Minnesota is under full attack by the federal government.

It's because of people like him Renee Good and Alex Pretti died.

#94 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-03-03 06:02 PM

" Murdered Mom deserves better than your Xenophobia, you racist, pedo piece of human garbage.
#69 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT
Now you're going to bust out the xenophobe card. So pathetic and so on brand for you.
#72 | Posted by BellRinger
Had he been detained for deportation prior to the fatal stabbing Sen Van Hollen would have had margaritas with him and everyone on the left and much of MSM (same thing) would be weeping for his release and calling him "Virginia Man."
#73 | Posted by BellRinger

If the Swastika fits...and it certainly does with you.

Obama and Biden deported more violent criminal illegal immigrants because they FOCUSED on them.

TRUMP let this one go and you can't even bring yourself to quote that part of the post.

Facts don't care about your racist, pedophile feelings.

#95 | Posted by Sycophant at 2026-03-03 06:04 PM

Goode died appearing to drive her car at someone. They fired apparently in self defense.

Pretty appears to have been murdered unless, and that's a big unless, there was a discharge of Pretti's gun by the agent handling it.

#96 | Posted by Petrous at 2026-03-03 07:23 PM

You are so bad at making excuses for state sponsored murder and so horrible morally that you can't, won't, or don't even spell either of their names correctly. Pathetic on every single front in post #96.

Say their names!
Renee Nicole Good.
Alex Jeffrey Pretti

Pretti's gun never went off.
God you are so uninformed or misinformed it's painful. Good was steering away from the idiot in front of her vehicle.

Seriously, you should learn some facts before you post -------- like that.

#97 | Posted by YAV at 2026-03-03 07:28 PM

#96 | POSTED BY PETROUS

Sometimes I have to appreciate when people step up and announce they're nothing more than trolls.

Hey stupid.

Everything you wrote is 100% factually incorrect.

#98 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-03-03 07:31 PM

Bellringer @#61 On this thread every one is doing it to an extent. Everyone here is pissed off at me for having the temerity to even cremate this thread.

Well, you certainly got CREMATED on this thread.

#99 | Posted by Chantresse at 2026-03-03 07:42 PM

Petrous did get the fact right that Pretti was murdered. Should have stopped right there.

To be clear, It by Federal Border Patrol and Customs and Border Protection (CBP) officers.

I missed it when I first read it.

But I thank Petrous for reminding me how furious I was and apparently still am over this. Especially with Noem being prominent in today's news.

#100 | Posted by YAV at 2026-03-03 07:45 PM

"Everyone here is pissed off at me for having the temerity to even cremate this thread."

While avoiding the weaponization of the DOJ, the monetization of the Presidency, the grift by the President's family, the $28 million "licensing fee" to Melania, the outright theft by digital currency, the record deficit budgets, the lies about who pays tariffs, and obvious lies from virtually every member of the cabinet???

You're too busy to address those issues, but have plenty of time to find an outlier for your rage.

#101 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-03-03 08:04 PM

So now you are going to conflate legal and illegal immigrants. This is pathetic.
#84 | Posted by BellRinger

It's the lede of your story.

Both legal and illegal immigrant deaths at the hands of ICE as closely tied to the nation's immigration debate as Alex Pretti's or Renee Good's.

#102 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-03-03 09:12 PM

Everything I wrote was accurate.

Apparently Goode drove her car in the direction of the agent.

Do you prefer allegedly?

As for Pretti, it matters greatly if there was a discharge.

Murder is one thing. But, a reaction believing they were under fire changes the possible criminal charge.

No discharge of that weapon appears to mean murder occurred. A discharge change intent to self preservation.

I was on a murder trial as a juror. It's not so simple when you have to decide multiple levels of charges of murder through manslaughter.

Each has its own definition. Probably the most horrible deliberation I ever had to do. Especially with the death penalty possible

#103 | Posted by Petrous at 2026-03-04 09:24 AM

Pretty appears to have been murdered unless, and that's a big unless, there was a discharge of Pretti's gun by the agent handling it.

IF the gun discharged while being handled by the agent, it is still murder.

#104 | Posted by Nixon at 2026-03-04 10:12 AM

Corky...

click your link google link... www.google.com

and then add this "is this data questioned at all".

It's almost like your only source of information on... well, everything, is one source deep with no follow on thought or questions.

#105 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2026-03-04 11:45 AM

#105

'What 'chu talkin' 'bout, Willis?"

the sources in #79 are plainly stated as the National Academy of Sciences, the Conservative Libertarian CATO Inst, and Stanford Univ.

Murder rates for undoc immigrants come from the State of Texas.

You just don't like the facts they present... because you prefer Trump's divisive political lies instead.

#106 | Posted by Corky at 2026-03-04 12:01 PM

#103 | POSTED BY PETROUS

Everything you wrote is bullshht.

The facts are an available and don't need your "interpretation".

Renee Good didn't drive towards the jackhole who murdered her.

She was pulling away. Otherwise he'd have had to get out of the way of her vehicle in order to not get hit, he doesn't move and simply opened fire, murdering her.

There's literally SEVERAL angles of footage available and in NONE of them was she close to hitting anyone.

The moron who killed her was a loser - like the rest of ICE - who couldn't abide being talked down to by a woman.

Alex Pretti saw two women being attacked and when he went to help them he got jumped by several ICE officers who took his gun out of the waistband of his pants. IF it did discharge it was due to the actions of the ICE agent who took his gun.

None of the footage show him go for his legally owned and concealed weapon.

You're nothing more than a bootlicker for pedophiles.

#107 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-03-04 12:06 PM

your link pulls up an AI chatbot with those sources... asking it if those studies are questioned at all, leads into an interesting chat. Many other links pointing to issues in the studies etc... Worth doing some digging on it, I'm not sure it's a cut and dry as it initially appears. Perhaps it is, I haven't had the time to follow up further on it. I will, because I don't get my facts from Trump, the media, or any one side without examining rebuttals.

#108 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2026-03-04 12:28 PM

One thing I will say about the DR lefties. Obviously none of you give a rat's ass about Stephanie Minter.

And Danforth's sense of entitlement is risible. He thinks it's up to him to dictate which topics I choose to comment on.

#109 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-03-04 12:30 PM

Obviously none of you give a rat's ass about Stephanie Minter.
#109 | POSTED BY BULLBRINGER

Rest assured, neither do you.

#110 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-03-04 12:34 PM

- Stephanie Minter.

Was, according to the statistics in #79, about 20 percent more likely to have been murdered by a US Citizen than an undoc immigrant.

But Jeffy is an Outlier Outrage kinda guy.

#111 | Posted by Corky at 2026-03-04 12:45 PM

Of course she was still murdered by an illegal alien. And it's for tha5 reason that her death is meaningless on the left.

#112 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-03-04 01:00 PM

Of course she was still murdered

You don't care about this.

by an illegal alien

That's the only thing you care about.

Which is what makes you a disingenuous, deplorable Trumping MAGAt.

#113 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-03-04 01:04 PM

Stephanie Minter, political fodder for xenophobes.

#114 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-03-04 01:05 PM

Of course she was still murdered by an illegal alien. And it's for tha5 reason that her death is meaningless on the left.

#112 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-03-04 01:00 PM | Reply

Cool strawman, bro.

#115 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2026-03-04 01:08 PM

Meanwhile when Good was murdered by ICE most of the righties here were all "FAFO" and "she should have complied" and "what was she doing there?"

You're all projection, strawmen, and false equivalencies, bell.

Because MAGA has no ideas, and no morals.

#116 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2026-03-04 01:13 PM

I don't speak for other righties, Alexandrite.

I've said multiple times that I believe the officers involved in those 2 shootings will end up sharing a cell with Derek Chauvin.

#117 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-03-04 01:21 PM

Of course she was still murdered by an illegal alien. And it's for tha5 reason that her death is meaningless on the left.

#112 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Up to this point in my life, I have never been threatened by anyone darker in color than I am, or by any migrant.

It's always been white, native born sons.

#118 | Posted by Zed at 2026-03-04 01:37 PM

I don't speak for other righties, Alexandrite.

Hmm. How interesting.

I guess none of us speak for the entire left/right? Keep that in mind next time, mr. broad brush.

#119 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2026-03-04 01:38 PM

I'd put money on it BullBringer has never met a transgender or illegal immigrant ever in his entire life.

He's just an irrationally scared moron who gets swept up by republican fearmongering.

#120 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-03-04 01:40 PM

I don't speak for other righties

#117 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

But you attempt to speak for something.

In fact, you get quite worked up about it.

#121 | Posted by Zed at 2026-03-04 01:41 PM

I have only been threatened by white people and always by American citizens.

And yet I have no bias towards white people or American citizens.

There's a lesson there for someone.

#122 | Posted by Zed at 2026-03-04 01:43 PM

I'm a borderline Hall of Fame troll, Alexandrite. I easily elicit multiple responses with a single post. And it doesn't take any effort.
#27 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-04-06 05:42 PM

#123 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-04 02:01 PM

No discharge of that weapon appears to mean murder occurred. A discharge change intent to self preservation.
#103 | Posted by Petrous

Self preservation would entail shooting the person discharging weapons.

The only person who did that an ICE agent.

Shooting Pretti because the ICE agent fired Pretti's weapon cannot possibly be an act of self defense.

#124 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-03-04 05:48 PM

It's almost like your only source of information on... well, everything, is one source deep with no follow on thought or questions.
#105 | Posted by kwrx25

Serious question:
When did you become a racist douchebag?

#125 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-03-04 08:22 PM

I thought race was one issue you might be able to understand.

But no, you choose ignorance and locker room talk.

#126 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-03-04 08:23 PM

Just to be clear on the FACTS:
There is no evidence ever presented that Pretti's weapon was fired. None.

There is a video of the agent walking away from Pretti and the melee and the sound of a gun firing.

The reverse angle of that same scene, synched, shows the sound of the gun firing was the AGENTS gun firing.

There is visible discharge from the barrell at the same time the sound is recorded.

The first sound of any gun firing was thet agent's gun - not Pretti's gun.

#127 | Posted by YAV at 2026-03-05 11:20 AM

Yav is 100% correct. There's a video of this occurring.

#128 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2026-03-05 11:22 AM

There is a video of the agent walking away from Pretti, with Pretti's gun in hand, and the melee and the sound of a gun firing.

#129 | Posted by YAV at 2026-03-05 11:22 AM

Thanks Alexandrite.

#130 | Posted by YAV at 2026-03-05 11:23 AM

Petrous doesn't allow facts to change his mind. That's Woke.

#131 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-03-05 11:30 AM

I haven't had the time to follow up further on it. I will
#108 | Posted by kwrx25

How's that follow up coming?
You picked the wrong side, kid.
You're standing with the Nazis now.

#132 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-03-05 11:37 AM


Yav is 100% correct. There's a video of this occurring.
#128 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE

The issue was that once found armed he's considered armed until searched (once considered armed, its reasonable to assume still armed)
Pretti reached back to the area where he had the weapon, hidden from the possible officer that shot him by Pretti's torso. (image of him holding phone)
If Pretti (now considered armed) had just stayed down he would be alive today, instead he got up and reached back and officers reacted.

Nothing wrong with complying with law officers, especially when carrying a weapon.


Meanwhile when Good was murdered by ICE most of the righties here were all "FAFO" and "she should have complied" and "what was she doing there?"
You're all projection, strawmen, and false equivalencies, bell.

Strange you're the one making the false equivlency, the topic is an illegal immigrant killing a citizen. Not a citizen behaving poorly and getting killed by an officer.

#133 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-03-05 11:39 AM


I've said multiple times that I believe the officers involved in those 2 shootings will end up sharing a cell with Derek Chauvin.
#117 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Why? Justice? Or Mob Rule?

#134 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-03-05 11:41 AM

a citizen behaving poorly

That would be you, not ICE's victims. GFY.

#135 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2026-03-05 11:49 AM

If Pretti (now considered armed) had just stayed down he would be alive today, instead he got up and reached back and officers reacted.

You are a liar.

#136 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2026-03-05 11:50 AM

You are a liar.

It's his superpower. "Open borders", Bernie Bro Liberals are all like that.

#137 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-03-05 11:54 AM

Of course he's a liar.

It's a commonality between Trump supporters.

They all constantly lie about what Trump's doing and what's happening in America.

They choose to live in an alternative reality because it's easier than accepting reality.

#138 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-03-05 11:54 AM

" Why? Justice? Or Mob Rule?

#134 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT AT 2026-03-05 11:41 AM | FLAG: "

Based upon the videos and other evidence. Maybe Good's shooter will end up remaining free due to the car issue. I just don't see it with Pretti's shooter. Having said that the courts have traditionally given a lot of benefit of the doubt toward LEO's when it comes to applying lethal force against a perceived threat.

#139 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-03-05 12:28 PM

Snoofy, so in your book, looking at all angles of an issue and not making an immediate immoveable decision on a topic makes one a racist?

#140 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2026-03-05 01:15 PM

#139 The "car" issue. Of course, the lying continues ...

click image for larger view

Who you gonna believe?

bell boi or your lying eyes?

#141 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-03-05 01:26 PM

Snoofy, so in your book, looking at all angles of an issue and not making an immediate immoveable decision on a topic makes one a racist?
#140 | Posted by kwrx25

My book?
How's your research coming along,
Are you studying Mein Kampf?

You said you'd look into it.
You didn't look into ----.

You have become disreputable.

#142 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-03-05 08:49 PM

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