Monday, March 16, 2026

Trump: Nato Faces 'very Bad' Future If They Don't Help Him

Donald Trump says it would be "very bad for the future of Nato" if allies don't help secure the Strait of Hormuz - a critical waterway for global oil shipping. Aboard Air Force One, Trump also says he is speaking to "about seven" countries about "policing" the strait, adding that he "will remember" if they do not help

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Former NATO SG, now FinMin of Norway, Jens Stoltenberg, stated that the attack on Iran was unlawful and that this is the position of Norway. He also commented on NATO as a whole and its survival of the Trump admin.

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-- Olga Nesterova (@onestpress.onestnetwork.com) Mar 15, 2026 at 1:48 PM

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Article 5 of the 1949 North Atlantic Treaty specifically focuses on "an armed attack against one or more of them [the parties] in Europe or North America."

Like NATO did after 9/11.

But this?

Uh ... no.

Maybe the Israeli Navy can hop on over and play? But nicer than with the USS Liberty (en.wikipedia.org), please.

#1 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2026-03-16 05:40 AM

Donald Trump was swaggering, sneering at these people just a few days ago. Now he's threatening them, BEGGING them for their help.

Donald Trump is mentally sick scum. Everything boils down to that.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2026-03-16 08:03 AM

Our resident MAGA are at long last starting that Back Under the Rocks Stage. Where they will stay dormant, like grubs, for some extended period of time.

It's not that they realize that they've done badly. Oh, no. They think that they have always been entirely right.

It's Trump who has failed them. Trump who wasn't the Second, Third, and Fourth Coming of Christ.

Like Trump himself, they never see themselves as the cause of disaster.

They're perfect.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2026-03-16 08:12 AM

That's pretty pointed.
....
translation:
"help bail us out of a bad situation I alone created or I will take my toys and soldiers and go home."
Eff that bass turd Trump.

#4 | Posted by e1g1 at 2026-03-16 09:46 AM

Trump and Pooty dream about invading and splitting up Europa.

#5 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2026-03-16 09:54 AM

Nato is saying clean up your own mess. I don't blame them at all after they way the "dump" treats his allies.

#6 | Posted by bat4255 at 2026-03-16 10:34 AM

NATO is a defensive treaty. They have absolutely no obligation to support or get involved in offensive operations.

He's on his own.

Which of his kids has volunteered to join the military to support this war? Oh... none of them? Big surprise. Republicans are such ---- cowards.

Biden had a child in the military, who was deployed to Iraq. If anyone is curious what not-a-coward looks like.

#7 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2026-03-16 10:40 AM

Why does Trump need help with something he said we've already won.

#8 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-03-16 11:09 AM

The US is too scared to put in its navy, why would other countries?

#9 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2026-03-16 12:26 PM

To be clear it isn't just about escorting ships thithe strait. It is a ships loading. It's about port facilities it's about oil storage and piping and pumping. Escorting ship will do nothing while hostilities are ongoing

#10 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-16 12:32 PM

Btw this goes to a major media and pundit problem. They aren't framing it he issue correctly. Escorting will not solve the logjam only a ceasefire will

#11 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-16 12:34 PM

We weren't attacked. WE attacked and started a war.

Article 5 doesn't apply.

#12 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-03-16 12:57 PM

Ron Filipkowski
@RonFilipkowski

4h
Lots of parallels between Trump asking Europe to bail him out on the Iran War and Fred Trump needing to run down to buy $3 million in chips at Trump's Atlantic City casino to keep it from going into default and losing its gaming license.

#13 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2026-03-16 01:11 PM


He's on his own.
Which of his kids has volunteered to join the military to support this war? Oh... none of them? Big surprise. Republicans are such ---- cowards.
Biden had a child in the military, who was deployed to Iraq. If anyone is curious what not-a-coward looks like.

#7 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2026-03-16 10:40 AM | Reply: Indeed

The UK fought the post-WWII Malayan counterinsurgency without NATO. France fought the Viet Minh without NATO. LBJ had to forge the "Alliance of Nations" to fight North Vietnam and the Viet Cong. Iraq twice was a coalition of the willing.

The Korean War was legally a UN operation (albeit with the US in military command).

Only Afghanistan was a NATO mission because an ally was attacked and the legal mechanism of collective security was invoked.

But technically, the government of Afghanistan did not attack a NATO country on 9/11.

An outlaw band of mujahadeen guerrillas based on their territory planned and conducted the 9/11 attacks to the surprise of Mullah Omar.

No Pashtuns, Tajiks, Uzbeks, Hazaras, or Talibs participated.

#14 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-03-16 01:44 PM

The U.S. and ME countries are expending large numbers of antimissile rockets to shoot down missiles and drones. Very expensive!

Now we learn the drones Iran is firing are made in Russian factories, and Russia is giving them to Iran for use against us.

Why hasn't Trump taken Ukraine up on their offer to sell their effective, battle-tested tech to shoot down drones?

Gulf states have expended large quantities of air-defence missiles to counter Iran's Shahed drones. Kyiv downs Russian drones every night using an array of weaponry including cheaper,smaller drones or jamming equipment.

Zelenskiy has said that the U.S. as well as countries from Europe, the Middle East and Africa has sought help from Ukraine on how to counter these attacks.

However, U.S. President Donald Trump has said the U.S. does not need Ukraine's help with downing drones.

Zelenskiy said that he did not know why Washington had not signed a major drone deal which Kyiv has pushed for months, and that he was unsure whether it would be agreed at all.

www.reuters.com

#15 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-03-16 02:31 PM

After imposing tariffs and belittling on our European allies, he expects them to help us per Article 5 in a war he started without us being attacked?

Trump's a POS, now dotard

dotard
/dd'rd/
noun
noun: dotard; plural noun: dotards

an old person, especially one who has become physically weak or whose mental faculties have declined.

#16 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-03-16 03:15 PM

Donald Trump was swaggering, sneering at these people just a few days ago. Now he's threatening them, BEGGING them for their help.

That's been the story of his entire life.

Rape children, have Epstein write checks to pay off the victims.

Discriminate against minorities, have lawyers negotiate a settlement with the DOJ.

Bankrupt casinos, have lawyers get him out of financial responsibility.

Have an affair with a porn star, use a lawyer to write a check out of his company and deduct it on his taxes.

Attempt to overturn the election in 2020, threaten the GOP into creating a false narrative and letting him off the hook.

Steal classified documents, a maga judge he appointed slow walked the case and is now sweeping it under the rug.

The SCOTUS ruling he has unlimited immunity for actions as president.

Every step of the way in his life he has been shielded from consequences of his actions and crimes. Everything bad that happens to this nation is a direct result of not letting the trust fund victim of affluenza from facing consequences.

#17 | Posted by Nixon at 2026-03-16 04:17 PM

Trump draws backlash for comment on Iran war: Maybe we shouldn't even be there'

www.theguardian.com

Ya think?

#18 | Posted by Corky at 2026-03-16 04:50 PM

static.euronews.com

#19 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-03-16 04:53 PM

"Maybe we shouldn't even be there"

This is what I voted for.
--Boaz

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-03-16 04:55 PM

Maybe we shouldn't even be there

Does that idiot actually think the US produces as much oil as it consumes?

#21 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-03-16 04:55 PM

I've read reports that Iran has allowed several ships to pass through the straight of Hormuz, just not American ships.

#22 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-03-16 05:12 PM

#22

No one could have predicted Iran would do that... no one in the WH, anyway.

#23 | Posted by Corky at 2026-03-16 05:25 PM

Europe rightfully tells the dump to go pound sand.

The dump is pounding sand and want's them to clean up after him.

NOT!!!

#24 | Posted by bat4255 at 2026-03-17 09:44 AM

I've read reports that Iran has allowed several ships to pass through the straight of Hormuz, just not American ships.
#22 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-03-16 05:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

That's not hard, there's very, very few VLCCs that are American flagged.

A ship with non-Iranian crude transited the straight while broadcasting AIS location 36 hours ago. In the last 24 hours more ships are on the move. Yesterday a ship was hit by "drone debris" in a UAE port well South of Hormuz, not transiting the strait.

We seem to be indicating we're about to land 2500 marines on Kharg. If that happens there won't be Iranian oil going out at all.

#25 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2026-03-17 09:58 AM

Iran is being very specific, "We'll target the oil infrastructure of the country a Kharg invasion sails out of"

It sailed out of Japan. They can't reach Japan.

#26 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2026-03-17 09:59 AM

Why does Trump need help with something he said we've already won.

#8 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

Exactly. How stupid is our president?

"The United Kingdom, our once Great Ally, maybe the Greatest of them all, is finally giving serious thought to sending two aircraft carriers to the Middle East," Trump said.

"That's OK, Prime Minister Starmer, we don't need them any longer " But we will remember. We don't need people that join Wars after we've already won!"

Then he has the nerve to ask them for help?

That's pretty damn stupid.

#27 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-03-17 12:25 PM

I am at least as pi--ed off at Dem "leadership" over the past decade for letting things get to the point where HE was even possible as I am at the GOP for actively supporting this sh--show.

#28 | Posted by morris at 2026-03-17 12:46 PM

Lewzer now: "We no longer 'need,' or desire, the Nato countries' assistance " WE NEVER DID!"

#29 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-03-17 01:27 PM

Taoiseach Michel Martin of Ireland on Tuesday in the Oval Office. Martin looked like he could barely contain laughter at some of the things from Trump's stream of consciousness.

While there, they took a picture together.

Martin is 5'10" tall. We report, you decide if Trump's actually 6'3". Maybe he forgot his lifts.

#30 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-03-18 12:51 AM

Just how out of touch with reality is Trump? He seems totally detached from what is clearly going on all around us.

#31 | Posted by moder8 at 2026-03-18 01:13 AM

@#31 ... Just how out of touch with reality is Trump? ...

Maybe start a new thread with that topic?


Stated differently, you may have well asked, how many times has the sun set in the west?

#32 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-03-18 01:27 AM

Hi AU

I was wondering how the annual meeting went.

And Ireland's new president, Catherine Connolly, is a progressive. She won around the same time as Zohran did in NYC last year.

Here's one take about the summit from Ireland.

Link:

www.thesun.ie

#33 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-03-18 01:52 AM

*** Dummkopf Trumpf on Possibly Pulling Out of NATO: "I don't need Congress for that decision" ***

Link: x.com

#34 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-03-18 02:02 AM

#33 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS

No class Trump. Geesh!

#35 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-03-18 03:54 AM

And no understanding that the US Senate has a say in international treaties signed by the US, like the NATO Treaty (21 July 1949, after a Senate vote of 82 to 13).

Woodrow Wilson couldn't get the US Senate to ratify the treaty to join the League of Nations.

#36 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-03-18 03:59 AM

Rushi
@rushicrypto

13h
Trump asked Germany for help. They asked him what 5 plus 4 is. He said 9. The Germans said exactly.

#37 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2026-03-18 04:00 AM

Hah!

#38 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-03-18 04:10 AM

When, in the wake of 9/11, the US invoked Article 5 of the NATO Treaty - the only member nation ever to send out that distress signal - the other member states responded in defense of that member state (us).

For Trump, though, the litmus test is whether nations would just snap-to because he positioned himself poorly and with his characteristic stupidity for a war he started and can't finish.

Welcome to international pariah status
.
And not just him; us, too.

#39 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2026-03-18 06:21 AM

Well, we can be sure of one thing, the person most happy about how well Trump is doing as a Russian asset...has to be Putin. Weakening NATO has to be high on his list.

#40 | Posted by Hughmass at 2026-03-18 07:11 AM

NATO is a defensive treaty. They have absolutely no obligation to support or get involved in offensive operations.

You expect the dementia riddled narcissistic dictator to understand that?

He's lost his grip on reality and the GOP is too scared of him to acutally do their job.

#41 | Posted by Nixon at 2026-03-18 10:29 AM

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