Legal,

"Bill Johnson approves of this blasphemy"

Of course it's a "golden calf".

I don't care what the Pastor says.

It's an idol.

Legal,

I do not associate Christian ethics to Trump.

I didn't vote for Trump because "he's a Christian"

I've never said if I believe he is or not. I don't know.

Laura,

No. I do not worship Trump.

But, I will tell you one thing about many gay men.

A lot of them idol worship the penis.

Fiend,

Self-flagellation has existed in parts of Christianity throughout history, but it's never been my thing.

No snake handling either.

Fiend,

However, this particular video is fake from a movie.

Fiend,

"No one would ever believe that you ever gave up spilling your seed wherever you found it ahem handy."

I have self-control and respect for myself.

I'm not perfect, but I've learned to live by my values, instead of my impulses.

When I take my last breath, I'll be able to say I lived according to what I believed.

That is the real me.

Corky,

I'll hold my values up against yours any day of the week.

And my values are nothing like DJT.

And you know it!

Ok...enough fun for one evening.

Laura,

I believe Trump will go down in history as one of the most significant Presidents America has ever had.

But many liberals became so consumed with hating him, they never stopped, or even tried, to understand why millions of Americans supported him in the first place.

Dan,

"You recently admitted you'd move goalposts to justify his actions."

Once again, you're attributing statements to me that I never made.

I mean...that doesn't even sound like something I'd say, much less that I ever actually did.

Dan,

"How is that NOT moving the goalposts?!?"

You're still doing the same thing.

I said I would likely interpret the remark as exaggerated political rhetoric, just like other politicians do, to fire up a crowd.

You translated that into "he'll justify anything" and presented it as though that was an actual position.

However, you didn't even say what "goal post" I supposedly moved.

You're "quoting" your own interpretation, and attributing it to me.

Dan,

This is one of the oddest conversations I've had here.

You claiming to know what I meant and calling it a quote.

That's rather Machiavellian.

You seem far more interested in psychoanalyzing my motives, rather than responding to my actual words.

Dan,

Just say what you want to say directly, instead of expecting the reader to follow the bouncing ball.

Make the argument plainly yourself.

Dan,

Don't rely on someone else's credibility when you have none.

Snoofy,

You probably think Trump actually meant for people to drink bleach, too.

Lamp,

"What did Pres Trump actually mean when he made that remark?"

He actually said "disinfectants", not bleach, as his opponents were claiming.

Regarding his comment, I call it thinking out loud and I don't believe he was suggesting anyone should drink a cleaning product.

But it seems there are people who did try it.

Regardless, he should have known better than to do that during a national briefing.

Maybe it was intended to deflect the conversation away from something. It certainly did that.

I'm not condoning his behavior, but that doesn't mean that I believe he was suggesting people try drinking "disinfectants".

Alright...I can't continue talking about who actually means what.

Lamp,

#50 Significant in what manner?

I'll think about an answer and post later.

Got stuff to do.

Lamp,

"and how do you differentiator between the times he says idiotic things and he is just "thinking out loud," and when he says stupid things and he really means it?"

I don't tend to listen to speeches much. I more prefer reading later on. By then it's been filtered just for the main points.

Answer to your question. I would guess you have to use your common sense.

I'm not in the mood to read your posts today. Bye.

Lamp,

"and how do you differentiate between the times he says idiotic things and he is just "thinking out loud," and when he says stupid things and he really means it"

You should probably apply for federal funding to study that further.

After a few committees, consultants, write a 200 page report, we may finally know the answer to that burning question. And you could make a few hundred thousand, too.

Cringe...

You can't say I support everything Trump wants.

Clown,

"This was your redline?"

Can you explain why?

I'll let you guess.

Clown,

Perhaps your understanding of Christianity is less than you think.

You might want to give up this notion of you proclaiming what and who is Christian.

You call me fake?

This is just my take on the matter. Not looking for a debate.

Lamp,

I'm right here.

Mod,

"One thing Bill Johnson posted above that is indeed true. I will NEVER understand how millions of Americans could ever have supported Trump in the first place."

I feel the same way about Kamala Harris.

Vote for what exactly?

All I saw was more of the same policies people were already unhappy with.

To me, she came across less like a strong candidate and more like a fourth term for Obama.

Mod,

"a middle finger to Christians worldwide"

It does look that way, doesn't it?

Who will he court now? It appears he thinks Christians are no longer beneficial to him.

Lamp,

You want me to go away?

What's your point in saying that?

I don't involve my religious beliefs in politics. I don't bring it up first. I respond to others who do.

Laura,

"Yet you STILL support him. Ironic dontchya think??"

What do I say that means I "support" him?

I barely talk about Trump. You libs do constantly.

I'm more interested in what's going on in the news, and less interested in Trump the individual.

Lamp,

"I remain to be convinced of that assertion."

Suit yourself.

Donner,

"Yeah. We know. We've always known. I've always wondered. Do charter members of the "cult of ignorance" also get their own parking space?"

What cult of ignorance are you saying I'm a member of exactly?

Try explaining your accusation yourself, instead of outsourcing it to Isaac Asimov.

Ocu,

I can see you didnt read anything I actually wrote in this thread, so that makes your opinion of me null and void.

Dont expect any further explanation from me.

That goes for the other judgemental hate-filled "intellectuals" too.