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Tuesday, May 14, 2024

The CDC has issued an urgent warning against drinking raw milk as a major bird flu outbreak spreads across dairy cattle in the US.

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I all but expected this type of warning to occur.


#1 | Posted by lamplighter at 2024-05-14 01:58 PM | Reply

All I know about raw milk is, Laura is a fan.

Also. Milk is gross.

#2 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-05-14 02:02 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

If a cow has H5N1 then the milk is dark and thick, rather disgusting. They have to mix it with a lot of "good" milk before it's palatable. Pasteurization kills the virus. Mixing unpasteurized safe raw milk with diseased raw milk doesn't make it safe to drink.

#3 | Posted by YAV at 2024-05-14 02:25 PM | Reply

Reading that reaffirmed my belief that milk is gross.

Thanks for sharing.

#4 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-05-14 02:35 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Thank god for cat milk.

#5 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-05-14 03:34 PM | Reply

Malk, now with vitamin R.

#6 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-05-14 03:47 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

It had to happen.

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#7 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-05-14 04:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You have to know your sources for that delicious raw milk. Not all raw milk is created equally. Just sayin

#8 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-05-14 04:53 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

"Not all raw milk is created equally. Just sayin"

Some raw milk may contain bird flu. Just sayin ...

High concentrations of the virus have been found in raw milk from infected herds, and officials have cautioned people to avoid milk that hasn't been commercially processed. Testing confirms pasteurization kills the virus, and the FDA says the commercial milk supply is safe.

The problem with infected herds is that the you won't know which ones are infected because they are not allowing the CDC in to test.

#9 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-05-14 05:07 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

If a cow has H5N1 then the milk is dark and thick, rather disgusting.

Speaks to the standards that farmers hold themselves to if they knowingly take a product that looks obviously wrong and dilutes it until it's not noticeable.

#10 | Posted by jpw at 2024-05-14 05:13 PM | Reply

they are not allowing the CDC in to test.

#9 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

Profit reigns over all.

It's times like this that make righties look stupid by saying we should can the FDA or other public health entities because "the markets will take care of it."

#11 | Posted by jpw at 2024-05-14 05:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

I'd take the warnings about raw milk a lot more seriously if they weren't constantly whining about raw oysters and sushi, and telling us to overcook steaks.

Is raw milk less safe than pasteurized? Sure.

Is it less safe than raw oysters? Well, the CDC says about 80,000 people get sick from raw oysters every year. They say there were 2,645 illnesses caused by raw milk from 1998 through 2018.

I'm not going to stop eating raw oysters. And I'm not going to worry about raw milk.

#12 | Posted by DarkVader at 2024-05-14 05:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

ODD isnt it? Foods that once served us as a staple are oddly now tainted. How does this happen? Does it come from tainted overly politicized government and policized think tanks that deliberately scheme to harm and manipulate us and our environment with experimental actions for unknown political gain.

Where does all the environmental ---- come from that never ever makes us better? Worth investigating. I live on a wooded acreage and have for decades. Since the 90s areas have oddly had encroachment of black legged ticks that make wooded life more dangerous. Who brought the deer ticks to USA wood land? Did DOD etc. Should we ever trust those who do not absolutely help us always?

#13 | Posted by Robson at 2024-05-14 08:17 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

@#13 ... ODD isnt it? Foods that once served us as a staple are oddly now tainted. ...

What foods are they?

Please be specific.

... How does this happen? ...

More specific details are needed regarding what exactly you mean by "this."

The rest of your comment of is, well, huh?


#14 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-14 08:23 PM | Reply

#13 I'm so glad the village idiots among us telegraph their village idiot status by constantly thinking the man behind the curtain is pulling nefarious strings.

#15 | Posted by jpw at 2024-05-14 08:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

ODD isn't it?

Right?!?!? It's like Pasteur came up with "pasteurization" to get rich and fool everyone! He made up an entire hoax to make sure he'd GET RICH! /s

Here's a hint: Pasteurization massively reduces people getting sick. It's not even debatable. Do any of you actually think the milk industry and all the other industries out there would put up with the costs of pasteurization if it didn't work? A side benefit for consumers is it extends shelf-life. Not exactly in the interest of those that want to sell more milk, now is it?

#16 | Posted by YAV at 2024-05-14 08:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Is it less safe than raw oysters? Well, the CDC says about 80,000 people get sick from raw oysters every year. They say there were 2,645 illnesses caused by raw milk from 1998 through 2018.

#12 | Posted by DarkVader at 2024-05-14 05:48 PM | Reply | Flag:

And iirc in those 20 years it's reported that 255 people were hospitalized. Pretty sure I'm in the same risk category as getting hit with a falling satellite part.

#17 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-05-14 10:30 PM | Reply

Anytime there is energy at stake, there are accompanying risk.

It is best for the masses to drink pasteurized milk.

But, for the individual, if you have access to local dairies with sanitary facilities, take the risk. It's delicious, and full of beneficial microorganisms that don't survive pasteurization.

Or, as Laura said, "You have to know your sources for that delicious raw milk. Not all raw milk is created equally. Just sayin."

#18 | Posted by horstngraben at 2024-05-15 12:14 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

La leche es muy malo, pendejo.

#19 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-05-15 12:37 AM | Reply

the markets will take care of it."

Just like with Boeing, Love Canal, the Pinto, Enron, Bank of America, Worldcomm, Bernie Madoff, Wells Fargo, FTX, Theranos, Ivan Boesky, etc.

#20 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-05-15 07:16 AM | Reply

#13 Tick population shifts are directly attributable to climate change.

www.pbs.org

#21 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-05-15 11:30 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

And...... nothing about milk.

#22 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-05-15 04:31 PM | Reply

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#23 | Posted by THEBULL at 2024-05-15 05:43 PM | Reply

Vitamin R
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#24 | Posted by THEBULL at 2024-05-15 05:46 PM | Reply

Good grief some of you people are to stupid for words

People like Robinson equate todays milk production to some cartoon version of a farm yard

You asshats drink it up

There is a reason for pasteurization, and it isn't just to add to the ruin of your life

#25 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2024-05-15 06:30 PM | Reply

And the solution to the obvious "government overreach" that's preventing you all from buying raw milk out of the back of a station wagon is easy

Buy a milk cow

#26 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2024-05-15 06:33 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Wow, the drunken savage on point and correct for once.

Stock market all time high.

Weird day indeed.

#27 | Posted by eberly at 2024-05-15 06:43 PM | Reply

And the solution to the obvious "government overreach" that's preventing you all from buying raw milk out of the back of a station wagon is easy
Buy a milk cow

POSTED BY CHIEFTUTMOSES AT 2024-05-15 06:33 PM | REPLY

Around these parts. You either buy straight from the farmer when they are there or. You can go to the farm 24/7 and pick you up some raw milk freshly bottled and chilled in an icebox. You just drop your money in the slot in the door and away you go. It's advisable to bring with you an ice chest with ice. Thereby keeping the milk cold till you get home.

#28 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-05-15 06:47 PM | Reply

I've never actually tried farm fresh milk but I do buy farm fresh eggs. I have learned that salmonella is not an issue with my egg "dealer" because he has vaccinated his little flock of hens. It is also not a big issue in Europe, for the same reason. They don't even refrigerate eggs in Europe, and neither do I.

On the other hand, American poultry farms are commonly afflicted with salmonella, because they consider it too expensive to vaccinate. I can't imagine how vaccination can cost more than refrigeration. I also learned that regulations allow an egg to be up to 60 days old before it gets fromchicken to table.

So I pay $6/dozen and LOVE my farm fresh eggs. The store bought eggs have no flavor at all by comparison.

#29 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-05-15 10:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I've never actually tried farm fresh milk but I do buy farm fresh eggs. I have learned that salmonella is not an issue with my egg "dealer" because he has vaccinated his little flock of hens. It is also not a big issue in Europe, for the same reason. They don't even refrigerate eggs in Europe, and neither do I.

On the other hand, American poultry farms are commonly afflicted with salmonella, because they consider it too expensive to vaccinate. I can't imagine how vaccination can cost more than refrigeration. I also learned that regulations allow an egg to be up to 60 days old before it gets fromchicken to table.

So I pay $6/dozen and LOVE my farm fresh eggs. The store bought eggs have no flavor at all by comparison.

#30 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-05-15 10:22 PM | Reply

#29

I've actually never had raw milk either. If I knew and trusted the source, I wouldn't hesitate to try it. Mass industrial production? OH F*** NO. It's absolutely ridiculously unsafe at commercial production volumes. Can't buy it in my state, and I've never been anywhere that had it that I'd trust. It's funny, my grandfather actually liked the flavor of "truck milk" better, I remember him telling me that as a kid he lived on a tobacco farm and had some cows, but he liked the pasteurized homogenized stuff better. I'd rather have unhomogenized for sure, there's a local dairy that sells that, and it's much nicer as far as I'm concerned.

Funny thing about the fresh eggs, yeah, they're better, and if they're not pressure washed you don't have to refrigerate them. I've never seen them for sale anywhere around here, I've only gotten them for free from friends with chickens and excess eggs. Some states require any eggs sold to be refrigerated, and once they have been cooled you don't want to let them warm up. And washed eggs should always be refrigerated, in the US washing is required for farms with more than 3000 hens.

#31 | Posted by DarkVader at 2024-05-15 11:12 PM | Reply

Farm fresh milk is Devine nice and rich and creamy. Especially if you get the, 4% or higher butterfat content. It's yummers. It's great straight from the test too.

#32 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-05-15 11:13 PM | Reply

Fresh milk can be a real problem when mass produced. It's like the old phrase "cleanliness is next to godliness" If time isn't taken to properly clean the old girl, milk can become tainted and cause illness. If you've ever been in a big dairy and watched the milking operation, you'd know exactly why you shouldn't drink that ----. For milk to be consumed raw, the cleaning process begins at the exit door of the cow and covers everything between there and damn near to her navel. A commercial dairy is set up for producing milk that they know will be pasteurized prior to human consumption. That said, I used to live near a small dairy that was set up to sell raw milk. It doesn't get much better.

#33 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-05-15 11:43 PM | Reply

It's great straight from the teat too.

#32 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-05-15 11:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

Imma go ahead and take your word on that.

#34 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-05-15 11:44 PM | Reply

I used to drink raw milk... Paid a little extra at the "health food" store. Loved how the cream floated to the top. I only bought as much as I could consume in a couple of days. It seemed like a good idea while I was doing it... then I stopped... shrug...I like milk.

I also like Budweiser beer... not ashamed to admit it.

#35 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2024-05-16 07:34 AM | Reply

When I met you Laura 20 years go, first thing you asked me was about raw milk.

#36 | Posted by boaz at 2024-05-16 01:12 PM | Reply

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