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Trump Wants to Control the Justice Department and FBI
Some of Donald Trump's allies are assembling proposals to curtail the Justice Department's independence and turn the nation's top law enforcement body into an attack dog for conservative causes, nine people involved in the effort told Reuters.
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... If successful, the overhaul could represent one of the most consequential actions of a second Trump presidency given the Justice Department's role in protecting democratic institutions and upholding the rule of law. It would also mark a dramatic departure from the department's mission statement, opens new tab, which identifies "independence and impartiality" as core values. ...
It would also mark a dramatic departure from the department's mission statement, opens new tab, which identifies "independence and impartiality" as core values. ...
#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-18 03:55 PM | Reply
How is that any different then what's going on now? (Legitimate Question).
#2 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-05-18 05:22 PM | Reply | Funny: 6 | Newsworthy 1
How is that any different then what's going on now? (Legitimate Question). #2 | POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES
I suspect people who don't understand and better yet don't support our Constitutional notion of Separation of Powers are among Trump's most fervent cultists. (Legitimate Answer.)
#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-05-18 05:29 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 6
@#2 ... How is that any different then what's going on now? ...
What is going on now?
#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-18 05:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2
Be more specific. You're making an accusation without providing any substance.
#5 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2024-05-18 06:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6
Only obvious criminal mob boss Trump can save us from the Deep State
#6 | Posted by hamburglar at 2024-05-18 08:45 PM | Reply
Constitutional notion of Separation of Powers
Does that apply here? DoJ and FBI are all part of the same branch as the President.
#7 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-05-18 09:01 PM | Reply
Excellent point! Which brings us back to, how is
"curtail the Justice Department's independence and turn the nation's top law enforcement body into an attack dog for conservative causes"
Different from what's happening now.
The reason BlueWaffles thinks it isn't any different is because BlueWaffles has Munchausen Victim Mentality By Proxy.
BlueWaffles thinks Deplorables like him are hand-picked victims of Biden's FBI.
#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-05-18 09:08 PM | Reply
White people don't commit crimes. It's a cry for help in a world gone mad.
#9 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-05-18 09:18 PM | Reply
- BlueWaffles thinks
There's absolutely no evidence for this.
#10 | Posted by Corky at 2024-05-18 09:54 PM | Reply | Funny: 2
... turn the nation's top law enforcement body into an attack dog for conservative causes ...
This looks like yet another example of Republicans doing what they falsely accuse Democrats of doing.
#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-19 11:46 AM | Reply
So he wants the FBI and DOJ do his bidding like these agencies did for Biden and Obama?
I understand the temptation but this isn't the way to counter Dem abuse of these agencies.
#12 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-05-19 08:33 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1
Link?
#13 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-05-19 08:34 PM | Reply
Ballwasher the clown.
#14 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-05-19 08:41 PM | Reply
#13 I always thought this was the case, regardless of who is president.
Why is it in question?
Eric Holder: 'I'm still the president's wingman' www.politico.com
#15 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-05-19 08:43 PM | Reply
@#12 ... the way to counter Dem abuse of these agencies. ...
An assertion without substantiation.
What's yer current alias got?
#16 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-19 08:47 PM | Reply
@#15 ... Attorney General Eric Holder brushed off a question Thursday about when he might leave the administration. Instead, the top lawman professed his allegiance to President Barack Obama.
"I'm still enjoying what I'm doing, there's still work to be done. I'm still the President's wing-man, so I'm there with my boy. So we'll see," Holder said in an interview on the Tom Joyner radio show. ...
... Why is it in question? ...
Simply because the article your current alias cites does not say anything about, as the thread summary states... "...Some of Donald Trump's allies are assembling proposals to curtail the Justice Department's independence and turn the nation's top law enforcement body into an attack dog for conservative causes, nine people involved in the effort told Reuters. ..."
So, where are the links your current alias can post about Democrats saying they want to turn the DoJ into an attack dog?
In comparison, the comment your current alias cites from Mr Holder, seems to be quite benign. Doncha think?
#17 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-19 08:54 PM | Reply
fwiw, I had been curious about the absence of those two aliases on this thread.
Then, suddenly, they both appear, with one (#15) apparently trying to prop up the other (#12).
Curious.
#18 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-19 08:58 PM | Reply
It is quite telling lamp
Consider also that one responded to my request for a link
Jeff knowing what I think of him has one post the link
Pathetic doesn't begin to describe it if they are 1 in the same
How sorry do you have to be to keep up multiple usernames on a fringe website serving what, 100 people?
#19 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-05-19 09:09 PM | Reply
@#19 ... a fringe website serving what, 100 people? ...
My view....
Do not confuse those who post with those who read.
The readership of this site is beyond, way beyond, those who post here.
And that is all I will say about that.
#20 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-19 09:12 PM | Reply
And how many of those are Jeff's sock puppets?
#21 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-05-19 09:14 PM | Reply
- Dem abuse of these agencies.
POSTED BY BELLRINGER
The Herring is Red... just another Lie like the Election was rigged or any of thousands of other rwing superstitions.
#22 | Posted by Corky at 2024-05-19 09:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
That's probably true. I read this thing long before I actually signed up and posted anything.
#23 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-05-19 09:22 PM | Reply
#21 ... And how many of those are Jeff's sock puppets? ...
All I'll say is the following --- do not trivialize the readership of this most august site.
#24 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-19 09:27 PM | Reply
"Dem abuse of these agencies."
Yet the jackass still can't point to a single Trump indictment he could do without fear of legal repercussions.
"Lawfare" looks like yet another entry in Bellringer's Dictionary.
#25 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-05-19 09:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2
@#25 ... Yet the jackass still can't point to a single Trump indictment he could do without fear of legal repercussions. ...
Exactly.
And that is why fmr Pres Trump is attempting to try his cases in the court of public opinion instead of the Court of Law.
#26 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-19 09:36 PM | Reply
@#19 ... Pathetic doesn't begin to describe it if they are 1 in the same ...
So... how will those current aliases try to recover from that apparent faux pas?
#27 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-20 12:53 AM | Reply
Trump wants, Trump wants, Trump wants...
Trump wants the world to think he's a Big Boy, and someone special...
The Rest of the World: "You're Not!"
#28 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-05-20 06:33 AM | Reply
p.s. ONLY an Idiot Nation would re-elect this man to the nation's highest office...
This is it America. Either prove to the world you still have some intelligence, or be labeled a 'Majority Moron Nation', and rightfully so.
#29 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-05-20 06:37 AM | Reply
oh my....holy moley peter and paul.
reading this I had one vision.....of Trunp's inauguration when the picture of him
and obama ( and others ).....when obama stood there knowing that HIS FBI
had illegally spied on both Trump and James Rosen along with who knows who....
--you people are out of your *^#@%%! minds.
#30 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-05-20 10:23 AM | Reply | Funny: 1
" ... obama stood there knowing that HIS FBI had illegally spied on both Trump and James Rosen along with who knows who..."
What a riot.
Basically, the FBI was surveilling Russians, and Jeff Sessions walked into the room.
Republicans want you to believe the FBI should've STOPPED recording, and by continuing, were spying on the campaign.
It's patently dumb. And if the situation were reversed and the FBI had STOPPED recording a Democrat in that circumstance, Republicans would be apoplectic, once they picked up scattered pieces of their head from neighboring states.
BTW, that was the meeting Sessions FINALLY admitted to under oath ... on his third attempt at "the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth."
#31 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-05-20 11:33 AM | Reply
"had illegally spied on both Trump and James Rosen along with who knows who...."
Trumpy is currently on trial and has 88 criminal offenses in four criminal cases against him and all you have are these half baked lies?
Get back with us when you have any actual Indictments for crimes for Biden or Obama.
#32 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-05-20 01:44 PM | Reply
You righties are SO far down the rabbit hole, many of you can no longer see the sun.
Left is right and down is up in GQP Land!
#33 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-05-20 03:08 PM | Reply
Here's 15 things that'll happen if Trump becomes president again. Please share with your undecided friends. Many of these items are documented in the Heritage Foundation's Project 2025, the blueprint for Trump's next term, as well as Trump's own pledges.
1) Abortion will be banned nationwide. 2) Contraception will be banned shortly thereafter. 3) The Supreme Court will be locked hard-right for the next 30+ years. 4) The climate crisis will significantly worsen, beyond our ability to mitigate it. 5) More tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires, spiking the deficit. 6) Trump will not leave office. 7) There will be a recession (there's been a recession during every Republican presidency for the last 100 years -- Google it). 8) Prices will NOT return to 2019 levels. 9) 50,000 federal workers will be fired and replaced with Trump loyalists per Project 2025. The lack of checks on his power will make it more likely he will remain in office beyond his term. 10) Similarly, the Department of Justice will shift to being under the direct control of the White House, allowing Trump to arrest anyone who's been mean to him. 11) Russia will annex Ukraine then move to invade other eastern European nations, probably Poland first -- with America's support. 12) America will leave NATO. 13) Trump will, as promised, close the pandemic preparedness office. Bird Flu will spread uncontrolled, becoming yet another pandemic. 14) Countless millions of citizens will be accidentally rounded up in Trump's deportation blitz, due to having similar names or faces as migrants. 15) Trump will use the military to arrest peaceful protesters and charge them with the Insurrection Act. Pro-Palestinian protesters will be deported as Hamas sympathizers.
#34 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2024-05-20 05:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
34 Lee the Agent. To be frank dont you shrill racists, commies and leftists ever tire of lying? We need a national investigation and subsequent purge of media and public servant liars. Lets have a national trial where lying judges and purjurers are analyzed politically and held to account with criminal charges.
#35 | Posted by Robson at 2024-05-20 07:09 PM | Reply | Funny: 2
#35 Name a country where that has ever worked.
You're ignorant.
#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-05-20 07:15 PM | Reply
"We need a national investigation and subsequent purge"
Kill them, that kind of purge?
#37 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-05-20 07:16 PM | Reply
"We need a national investigation and subsequent purge of media and public servant liars."
So, are we starting with Fox News, losers of three-quarters of a billion dollars for being a media liar?
#38 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-05-20 07:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
#35
---- off, dumbass.
#39 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-05-20 08:29 PM | Reply
"Trump Wants to Control the Justice Department and FBI"
Straight out of the autocrat playbook.
Right wingers have absolutely no idea how bad things would be for everyone but those in an autocrat's inner circle.
#40 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-05-21 01:14 AM | Reply
"So he wants the FBI and DOJ do his bidding like RIGHT WING LIARS claim these agencies did for Biden and Obama?"
FTFY
#41 | Posted by danni at 2024-05-21 01:29 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
How is that any different then what's going on now?
You mean like when Hilary was investigated for her emails and was not charged after sh*tler routinely made "Lock her up!" as a focal point of 2016?
Like when convicted criminal Michael Flynn chanted lock her up?
Like when sh*tler wanted the DOJ to investigate Biden in 2020 and tried to have Ukraine plant evidence on him?
Ask Alexi Navalny.
#42 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-05-21 07:21 AM | Reply
5) More tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires, spiking the deficit.
Along with mandatory drastic cuts to social security and medicare which will effectively end the program all while keeping the payroll taxes to fund the tax cuts for billionaires.
#43 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-05-21 09:34 AM | Reply
We need a national investigation and subsequent purge of media and public servant liars. Lets (sic)have a national trial where lying judges and purjurers (sic) are analyzed politically and held to account with criminal charges.
#35 | POSTED BY ROBSON
You are one full-on gibbering Nazis, ROBSON. Thanks for coming fully out of the closet.
It would be funny if it were discovered that you have some Jew in your family tree.
#44 | Posted by Zed at 2024-05-21 11:09 AM | Reply
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