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Wednesday, June 05, 2024

Freaking decimated -- is how President Joe Biden described the state of the Russian military following challenges they've faced during their invasion of Ukraine.

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By December of last year, 315,000 Russian troops had been either killed or injured in the war"a reduction in troop strength by 87%. Even by the technical definition of the word "decimate""to reduce to 1/10th of the original"Biden's characterization is accurate.

Has Putin's butt ---- sent his condolences yet?

#1 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-06-04 03:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The Ukrainian/Biden bleeding of Russia has sent a needed message to the Chinese, among others: You'd better be sure, you'd better be damned sure, before you start your own major war.

But, of course, Putin was damned sure and looked what happened to him anyway. Maybe the real message is: Don't start any war at all.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2024-06-05 08:21 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Just watched a video of a Russian line of tanks moving with their hatches open in the warm weather and Ukrainian drones dropping $85 grenades in through the hatch. Tanks go boom.

Slava Ukraine!

#3 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-06-05 09:23 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Putin was damned sure and looked what happened to him anyway.

Putin thought Ukraine would fold and surrender. He also thought the western allies would not support Ukraine with billions in military aid. He also didn't count on western democracies seizing Russian megayachts and bank accounts and giving the money to Ukraine.

If the------------- didn't ham hand the pandemic he might have been in office and would have handed Ukraine over to him.

#4 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-06-05 09:26 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

The GOP members of the Russia Apologist Society will be raising a protest in about a day. They will demand an investigation of Biden by the House Committee on Frittering Away the Hours. Subpoenas will fly left, right and center and dumb questions asked all around. Look for this to start up before Father's Day...

#5 | Posted by catdog at 2024-06-05 01:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Putin is a Savvy Genius!"
-Trump and the DR MAGAt patrol.

#6 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-06-05 02:16 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

"The Ukrainian/Biden bleeding of Russia has sent a needed message to the Chinese, among others: You'd better be sure, you'd better be damned sure, before you start your own major war."

Yup! Best foreign policy deal ever!

And we can and should keep on "decimating" them as long as they like being "decimated".

If they get tired of being "freakin decimated" they can always stop invading their neighbor and stay in Russia.

#7 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-06-05 02:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

It's going to get worse for Russia if/when President Biden gives the OK to those longer range missiles.

#8 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-06-05 03:36 PM | Reply

Ukraine is currently sending senior citizens to the front line.

#9 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-06-05 04:21 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Ukraine is currently sending senior citizens to the front line.

#9 | POSTED BY TRES_FLECHAS

So?

Senior citizens can push a button and say "Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, Boom, OK. Missile launch, pssshng, poom!

Convicted felon and demented senior citizen Trumpy has already proved that several times now.

#10 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-06-05 04:28 PM | Reply

Convicted felon and demented senior citizen Trumpy has already proved that several times now.

#10 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

What does this sentence have to do with post #9?

I mean, he's also proven that he can win an election over a filthy ------- war hawk, right?

#11 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-06-05 04:32 PM | Reply

I mean, it can't be that hard to completely disgrace a filthy ------- war hawk if a drooling ------- pants -------- idiot like Donald Trump did it..

#12 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-06-05 04:34 PM | Reply

Republicans don't really post in Russia threads anymore. Maybe it has something to do with Trump colluding in plain sight with Putin on the release of an American political prisoner.

#13 | Posted by JOE at 2024-06-05 04:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What does this sentence have to do with post #9?

Taken out of context bor much. But. It followed this sentence:

Senior citizens can push a button and say "Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, Boom, OK. Missile launch, pssshng, poom!"

If you can't figure that out how that relates I can't help you.

#14 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-06-05 05:03 PM | Reply

What does this sentence have to do with post #9?

Taken out of context bor much. But. It followed this sentence:

Senior citizens can push a button and say "Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, Boom, OK. Missile launch, pssshng, poom!"

If you can't figure that out how that relates I can't help you.

#15 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-06-05 05:03 PM | Reply

If you can't figure that out how that relates I can't help you.

#15 | POSTED BY DONNERBO

Yeah.

It's doesn't relate at all.

Thank you for your candor.

#16 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-06-05 05:09 PM | Reply

I mean, it can't be that hard to completely disgrace a filthy ------- war hawk if a drooling ------- pants -------- idiot like Donald Trump did it..

#12 | POSTED BY TRES_FLECHAS

You lost me there. I know who the pants crapping idiot is but who is the F-in war hawk" in your scenario?

Nutty Yahoo?

#17 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-06-05 05:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I mean,,, Ukraine is down so bad that they are sending 70 year old men to fight in hand to hand combat, and that's ok because Donald Trump.

Sure..

#18 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-06-05 05:10 PM | Reply

I think you might just be making admissions that go against your own self interests at this point.

Do you have a court appointed guardian or someone else who who we need to contact?

#19 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-06-05 05:13 PM | Reply

Ron Filipkowski
@RonFilipkowski
Tuberville says Putin has only wanted peace all along but the U.S. wants war: "He dudn't want Ukraine. He dudn't want Europe. Hell, he's got enough land of his own. He just wants to make sure he does not have US weapons in Ukraine."

x.com

Check Tumorville for CTE.

#20 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-06-05 05:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Tumorville for CTE.

#20 | POSTED BY REINHEITSGEBOT

I really like how this idiot is on the record as saying that no one could ever be less racist than he is because he doesn't years enriching himself off of the unpaid labor of black men.

That's some system you folks have.

I hope it lasts forever...

#21 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-06-05 05:25 PM | Reply

...because he spent* years enriching himself...

Fixed.

#22 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-06-05 05:26 PM | Reply

"It's doesn't relate at all."

Sure it does. (And your funny bone is obviously broke.) Senior citizens make good cannon fodder, too!

And they can push buttons and go "Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, Boom, OK. Missile launch, pssshng, poom!"

And because they have more life experience they might even live a little longer than the younger recruits who have very little life experience.

Sorry that was too complicated for you to understand how it "relates". (Like the extremist things you say always "relate" to reality.

But then again you don't even know the definition of "genocide".

So that computes.

#23 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-06-05 05:38 PM | Reply

Sure it does.

#23 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

No it doesn't.

The fact that Ukrainian senior citizens are being conscripted to fight on the front line
has ---- all to do with Donald Trump.

Never did, never will.

#24 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-06-05 05:40 PM | Reply

Legitimately.

Get it out of your system.

Post:

"UKRANIAN SENIOR CITIZENS ARE BEING CONSCRIPTED BECAUSE DONALD TRUMP"

as many times as you need to.

Feel free to copy and paste from above.

It will never be the truth.

#25 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-06-05 05:48 PM | Reply

The thing is Russia actually has learned a lot (but still use meat grinder tactics) and are doing what they can to ramp up production. For example they appear to be producing three times the artillery shells of the west now. Of course all they had to do was dust off the old machines and crank them back up. The West disassembled theirs. Short term not good for Ukraine but long term the West is now engaging in manufacturing so bad news for Russia/China.

All sorts of bad news for Russia. The population of Russia is going to continue to shrink. Their is evidence Tanks will run out this year and APCs a few months after. They chewed through their stock piles. They aren't able to actually manufacture many from scratch either.

On the bad for Ukraine side, they do continue to conscript troops and hire foreign mercenaries. They actually have far more on the front now than ever.

#26 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2024-06-05 06:53 PM | Reply

Three Sheets to the Wind is an incompetent troll.

#27 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-06-05 07:35 PM | Reply

Three Sheets to the Wind is an incompetent troll.

#27 | POSTED BY legallygivesmehead

You know it, sugar tiddies

#28 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-06-05 07:40 PM | Reply

---- off Jeff.

#29 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-06-05 07:42 PM | Reply

@#26 ... The thing is Russia actually has learned a lot (but still use meat grinder tactics) and are doing what they can to ramp up production. For example they appear to be producing three times the artillery shells of the west now. Of course all they had to do was dust off the old machines and crank them back up. The West disassembled theirs. Short term not good for Ukraine but long term the West is now engaging in manufacturing so bad news for Russia/China. ...

That seems to confirm something that I have been saying for months now (OK, now it's been years)...

The West was reducing their war capability because of the easing of tensions and significant economic cooperation with Russia that had been occurring.

Now that Pres Putin seems to have shown Russia's true colors with the unprovoked invasion of a sovereign country, the West seems to have a need to gear up their war machine again. Not because they wanted to, but because Pres Putin convinced the West that they had to.


#30 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-05 07:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"UKRANIAN SENIOR CITIZENS ARE BEING CONSCRIPTED BECAUSE DONALD TRUMP"

Like I said troll.

So what? What are you trying to prove? That Russia is still invading and it's all hands on deck? Yeah we know that. And so does Ukraine obviously.

If twice impeached convicted felon senior citizen Donald Trump can run a campaign (twice even) then a country (and his mafia crime ring) all at the same time then seniors can go to war to save their country from foreign invaders.

I am a senior citizen and if maga maroons start a civil war here pretty sure I am gonna get some of that action. I would rather not as I have better things to do with my time. And while I may not have the youthful energy I used to have to be a spear for democracy I can certainly still be the shield of democracy.

#31 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-06-05 09:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"It's doesn't relate at all."

It does, you're just too dumb to get it.

But as always...I'm here to help.

It doesn't take a BUD/S grad to operate a UAV MCE. Some old dude in a wheel chair could conduct a drone strike against one of your jihadist bros as easy as a 25-year old marathon runner could.

#32 | Posted by madbomber at 2024-06-06 12:23 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#32 ... Some old dude in a wheel chair could conduct a drone strike against one of your jihadist bros as easy as a 25-year old marathon runner could. ...

yeah, maybe.

But my guess would be that the 25-year-old your comment cites may be a whole lot more proficient at using a joystick.

And don't get me started on how computer gaming is training our youth for future wars. ...


:(


#33 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-06 12:45 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Soldiers maintain readiness playing video games (2020)
www.army.mil

... How do Soldiers stay ready while maintaining social distancing? For the Tankers of D Troop, 6th Squadron, 9th Cavalry Regiment, 3rd Armored Brigade Combat Team, 1st Cavalry Division, you turn to online gaming.

Simulations and gaming are nothing new to training in the Army. Tank crews train in multiple virtual environments including using the Close Combat Tactical Trainer and Advanced Gunnery Training Systems. But with the current pandemic, leaders had to find inventive ways to train their Soldiers.

Over the last few weeks these Troopers have been conducting various training events using an online game which simulates various military equipment including tanks. ...



#34 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-06 12:50 AM | Reply

6 Video Games (Sorry, Simulators') the US Military Used for Training
www.military.com

... Video games are entertainment products, but they come from thousands of years of simulations used in training, originally composed of stones on tables or math on paper. As the military trainers got better and better, they became enticing entertainment products, such as chess. Chess can actually be traced to India where it was known as Chaturanga, literally meaning "the four divisions of the military."

Now the industry for military games dwarfs the ones for military simulators, with players spending $400 million on "Call of Duty: Modern Warfare III" last year in just the first 24 hours it was on sale. In fact, so much money and development go into games that the U.S. military sometimes scoops games out of the public sphere to use as trainers. Here are six times they did just that. ...


OK, I have to say, this article described something that I did not think occurred.

... In fact, so much money and development go into games that the U.S. military sometimes scoops games out of the public sphere to use as trainers. ...

Wow.

#35 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-06 12:54 AM | Reply

"But my guess would be that the 25-year-old your comment cites may be a whole lot more proficient at using a joystick."

And my guess is that you would be wrong. At least about some of us.

Them young whipper snappers are always quite surprised after they find how how old I am and that I can actually play as well or better than many of them.

We boomers have been using computers and the internet ever since Al Gore and I invented the internet so ...

And since I WAS in the Marines you have to know that I have played Call of Duty. Often.

#36 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-06-06 01:18 AM | Reply

@#36 ... And my guess is that you would be wrong. At least about some of us. ...

I'd emphasis the "some of us" aspect.

Yeah, some of we old folk may be comfortable using computers.

My first computer (the 1970's) used an Intel 8080a CPU. Clock frequency for that CPU was measured in megahertz, not gigahertz. I believe it was around 2 or 3 megahertz. And the computer had a whopping 64K of memory.

But I had word-processing and a spreadsheet running.

In 64k of memory.

... We boomers have been using computers and the internet ever since Al Gore and I invented the internet so ... ...

I've been participating in online message boards since the late 1970's. (though, back then it was X.25, not TCP/IP)[1].

... And since I WAS in the Marines you have to know that I have played Call of Duty. Often. ...

I do not deny your experience, but I do ask, how typical is it compared to the youth of today?


That's my point.


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1 - X.25 en.wikipedia.org

... X.25 was a popular with telecommunications companies for their public data networks from the late 1970s to 1990s, which provided worldwide coverage.

It was also used in financial transaction systems, such as automated teller machines, and by the credit card payment industry.[7] However, most users have since moved to the Internet Protocol Suite (TCP/IP). X.25 is still used, for example by the aviation industry.[citation needed] ...



#37 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-06 02:37 AM | Reply

For several months now, Putin has had Russia in a death spiral.

Putin can't afford to be viewed as a loser, he's too far in,
he's committed too much. But that is exactly what he is, a loser.
So he can't withdrawal and save face, but at the same time, the
'meat grinder' grinds on, and grinds his remaining troops up by the
thousands.

Sad thing is, he actually thought that he had a chance against a
NATO and U.S. supported Ukraine. Critical miscalculation.
He may of had a chance, in the first 2 months of the conflict,
but once Ukraine rebuffed the initial invasion, and garnered true
NATO support, the writing's been on the wall for Pooty Pants.

#38 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-06-06 06:32 AM | Reply

For all that propaganda posted, Russia is currently hurtling itself towards Lanchester's Square collapse faster than Ukraine. Russia has troop depth, but battlefield force multipliers have gone out the window. The T-62 went from background use as an artillery piece to front line combatant. They've run out of turret mechanisms and are having to make barn shed tanks with a gun you can only aim by aiming the entire vehicle at your target. Now that it is raining DPICM again they have ground to a halt and suffering trades worse than 7:1 at times.

#39 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-06-06 08:50 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

As a curious side note, the much maligned Bradley continues to prove itself one of the best all around ground combat platforms ever designed, an APC killing more T series tanks than the M1 Abrams starting in 1990 and still chewing up Russia hardware 34 years later.

#40 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-06-06 09:32 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#40 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

I admire your fund of knowledge, and your posts.

#41 | Posted by Zed at 2024-06-06 09:39 AM | Reply

Ty, but I'm just a curious spectator and part time -------.

The disinfo in this conflict, it's unprecedented, despite being the easiest conflict to follow on the ground in history.

#42 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-06-06 10:28 AM | Reply

"The disinfo in this conflict, it's unprecedented"

The last time something like this happened there wasn't a global propaganda network called The Internet.

#43 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-06-06 10:58 AM | Reply

I recommend two good coverages of the conflict on Youtube.
'Warthog Defense' is a decent channel, and 'Reporting from Ukraine'.
It is hard to dispute wartime footage of things going boom as
'disinformation'.

#44 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-06-06 11:25 AM | Reply

"I do not deny your experience, but I do ask, how typical is it compared to the youth of today?"

It's true. I am not typical.

There is no one like me!

I cannot deny that I am an extraordinary human with extraordinary skills.

I can play Helldivers2 like nobody's business.

That alien trash don't know what hit them when I arrive on their planet(s).

My fellow helldivers and I will rid them from the Galaxy forever!

For Democracy!

#45 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-06-06 11:31 AM | Reply

The last time something like this happened there wasn't a global propaganda network called The Internet.

#43 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2024-06-06 10:58 AM | FLAG:

Do you use that thing? Because it's been there the entire time. Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Georgia were all live streamed and/or documented with gopros by every side of the conflict. ISIS was noted for how high its propaganda production quality was.

#46 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-06-06 11:52 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#46 Those wars weren't marketed to Americans like Putin's invasion of Ukraine and Israel's invasion of Gaza.

#47 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-06-06 12:09 PM | Reply

"ISIS was noted for how high its propaganda production quality was."

Noted with a drone strike on an American citizen, even.

#48 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-06-06 12:10 PM | Reply

#46 Those wars weren't marketed to Americans like Putin's invasion of Ukraine and Israel's invasion of Gaza.

#47 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2024-06-06 12:09 PM | FLAG:

Definitely was. There's this whole bad of radio called AM...

#49 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-06-06 12:31 PM | Reply

AM Radio is not on the same level of the Mossad Treatment.

#50 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-06-06 12:34 PM | Reply

AM radio?

Okay, boomer.

#51 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-06-06 12:36 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

Those wars weren't marketed to Americans like Putin's invasion of Ukraine and Israel's invasion of Gaza.

#47 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

No not "like". But differently. Pretty sure all (American) wars have been "marketed" to Americans.

It took years of marketing to get (trick?) (convince?) Americans to get involved in World War 2.

Even the civil war was "marketed".

Remember the Maine?

The yellow press, led by William Randolph Hearst and Joseph Pulitzer, proprietors of the New York Journal and the New York World, took every opportunity to inflame the situation with the exhortation to Remember the Maine', publicise the alleged cruelties of Spanish repression and encourage a belligerent hunger for action.

More at www.historytoday.com

#52 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-06-06 12:53 PM | Reply

Marketing a war America is involved in, is different than Israel marketing their war to America.

#53 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-06-06 12:55 PM | Reply

Nobody ever got droned for trying to sell Americans an American war, for example.

#54 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-06-06 12:59 PM | Reply

Marketing a war America is involved in, is different than Israel marketing their war to America.

#53 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Is it? And are we not "involved "?

Our taxpayer dollars definitely are. And we had to be "convinced" to keep sending it to them while thousands of "innocent" civilians are getting killed.

And Hamas was busy little bees doing the very same thing only the in the exact opposite trying to convince us THEY were the victims.

Only time will tell which "side" was more successful or more effective.

#55 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-06-06 01:18 PM | Reply

Biden is simply an elderly fool that doesnt know the year or even real threat. Hey Im not that younger that Biden but can recognize a confused fool and inabilty to comprehend.

The only certainty is Biden the fool will soon have us in war with Russia.

#56 | Posted by Robson at 2024-06-06 07:11 PM | Reply

Biden is loud and weak! He knows nothing. He understands nothing. Even Obama knows that Biden knows nothing.

#57 | Posted by Robson at 2024-06-06 07:14 PM | Reply

If Biden said this, any intelligent person would discount immediately.

#58 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-06-06 07:25 PM | Reply


Those wars weren't marketed to Americans like Putin's invasion of Ukraine and Israel's invasion of Gaza.
#47 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

From what I have read, its because they weren't started by a "Democrat". When its a Democrat President and the marketing gets into a fevered pitch.


Marketing a war America is involved in, is different than Israel marketing their war to America.
#53 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

The Israeli vs Palestinian conflict is really a marketing war campaign, who can be the biggest victim. You've chosen the same theocracy, as 22 other states which ban abortion and throw homosexuals from the roof tops. It's the only way to explain "Gays for Hamas" for instance.

I have chosen the a socialist Democracy, with free healthcare and welfare for all.

#59 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-06-06 07:32 PM | Reply

The rancid orange jizzfart had nothing but praise for Putin after the bald dwarf put bounties on the heads of American troops.

#60 | Posted by Reinheitsgebot at 2024-06-06 11:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Odd but true is when you hear a Democrats mouth jibber jabbering and see the body language of misinformation, you know with absolute certainty they are lying. It is what the scheming cabal has always done in recent years when they went off the deep end with TDS, backed up by an insider media that refuses to cover news with facts and honesty.

Ukraine is a wasteful fruitless war pushed by fools.

#61 | Posted by Robson at 2024-06-07 12:00 PM | Reply

#61 | POSTED BY ROBSON

You're not doing a very good job lately. Did Putin cut your salary?

#62 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-06-07 12:20 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

#34 Lamplighter A lot of us seniors are also gamers. I used to play Nintendo and PlayStation games with my sons. I know how to use a joystick also.

#63 | Posted by Ronnie68 at 2024-06-07 12:35 PM | Reply

#52 Donnerboy What took getting Americans into WWII wasn't propaganda. It was the bombing of Pear Harbor on Dec 7, 1941. American politicians were promoting isolationism until Pearl Harbor. Or are you saying that America should have stayed out of WWII after being attacked by Japan?

#64 | Posted by Ronnie68 at 2024-06-07 12:44 PM | Reply

Ukraine is a wasteful fruitless war pushed by fools.

#61 | POSTED BY ROBSON

Fools? Then you should be on Ukraine's side. You're a natural.

#65 | Posted by Zed at 2024-06-07 12:55 PM | Reply

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