"I wonder if the sight of that freed girl makes the pro-Hamasers sad."

Have you asked Netanyahu? He's the #1 pro-Hamaser.

So, more innocent human shields killed by Israel. People who did nothing wrong, killed because they live in an area run by terrorists. Terrorists that are supported and kept in power for the past 25 years by Netanyahu.

Congratulations, you are talking about Snoofy.

"The four Israeli hostages were kidnapped by Hamas-led militants from the Nova music festival in southern Israel on Oct. 7 last year."

They are incredibly lucky IDF did not kill them.

For those wondering why IDF has no problem killing innocent civilians, it helps to understand IDF has no problem killing their fellow IDF soldiers:

He told the Israeli newspaper Haaretz that as desperation began to set in, "the commanders in the field made difficult decisions " including shelling houses on their occupants in order to eliminate Hamas fighters along with the hostages."

"Does it include how they escaped IDF bombing when so many innocent Palestinians>/b> did not?"

"Lol! Cry harder."

It's just so easy to spot the moral upper hand in this conflict.

"keeping those horrid festival attendees hostage"

They certainly wouldn't be safe from IDF if found roaming the streets, waving a white flag, and identifying themselves in Hebrew.

"4 rescued, 275 innocent people killed."

This is the type of thing that leads the rescued victims to take their own lives.

Having that blood on your hands.

"you make some stupid remark about netanyahu is pro hamas"

Well, you're close.
1. Netanyahu is pro-Hamas.
2. It's stupid to be pro-Hamas.
3. You are also stupid.

"armed Palestinian "civilians."

Gotta love the double standard!

"Like "sex-offender" creepy"

Like putting newborn baby's penis in your mouth creepy?

Why Ultra-Orthodox Jewish Babies Keep Getting Herpes

On July 22, the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene revealed that two new cases of neonatal herpes had been diagnosed during July. One baby was found at 16 days old to have "pustular lesions on the penis and ------- area," and a 17-day-old was found to have "lesions on his penis, left foot, and left thigh."

"IMHO, 10 million nuclear-armed Israelis aren't going anywhere"

They're expanding their territory, as a matter of fact. Have been since 1948. They show no signs of stopping.

Except not my sympathy
#53 | POSTED BY CENSORED

We are acutely aware that you do not have the ability to experience the emotion called sympathy.

Are you aware of that too?

Of course you are!

Thanks for reading and understanding.

"I don't really think the Islamic Resistance is asking, especially the children, what they want."

Just another common value held by both Hamas and Israel.

Yahya Sinwar, the head of the Islamic Resistance, has already stated that hundreds of thousands of dead Palestinians would be worth it if it furthered the organization's agenda.
#74 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

Why would Netanyahu further the Hamas agenda?

"The only way forward is to utterly defeat them and to ensure that no others like them can ever surface again."

^
This is actually the "bargaining" state of the Kubler-Ross model.

At least we can all agree Israel is deliberately killing Civilians.

Baby Steps!

"If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel"

Yes, Israel was born of violence against the native population.

That's not exactly "news."

Still, some people can't see it as clearly as Golda Meir could see it.

The indoctrination of the Palestinians isn't unlike what we see in North Koreans. Or Germans 90 years ago, for that matter.
#93 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

That's why Netanyau has been supporting Hamas for the past 25 years.

So people like you could say Palestinians are indoctrinated beyond redemption, and the only solution removing Palestine from the face of the earth.

"Israel could have and could have wiped Palestine off the face of the earth at any moment over the past 40 decades or so."

Doing that would eliminate Netanyahu's raison d'etre.

Israel is supposed to be the victim, not the aggressor. Surely you can understand that!

Israel is an innocent victim, right?

"How about all of those westerners who went to support the Islamic State?"

How about all of those westerners who went to support the Zionist State?

You know, almost the entire population of Israel.

"Your issue seems to be with Netanyahu, rather than Israel writ large."

Actually the problem is the centuries old tradition of Western Racism and Ethnocentrism, that was given a fresh coat of paint and discovered a few new Pronouns, and called itself Zionism.

"So you should be thankful for the Israeli government that keeps him in check."

90% of homes in Gaza destroyed is being kept in check, huh?

Sounds like you should be sad the Israeli government isn't letting him finish the job.

"Based on the most recent information, Israel had 73k new immigrants, mostly from Russia and Ukraine."

Don't you mean, originally from the historical Kingdom of Israel, and temporarily relocated to Russia and Ukraine?

"I don't know."

You don't know if they have a claim to Israel based on their Jewish heritage?
You've been saying they have a claim to Israel for months, but now you don't know?

You're a joke. Stop wasting everyone's time.

"Typically, Jews from Europe are more genetically tied to groups from the Levant than to Europeans."

That's an outright lie
But you're so full of Zionist propaganda, you won't ever realize it, and won't ever accept it.

"Being that much of the immigration came from Ukraine and Russia, it could be a function of the conflicts there."

Except it's only Jews they allow to emigrate.

"If they were applying for Israeli citizenship or residency because they wanted to live in the land their ancestors came from...that's typically pretty easy to prove."

Israel pays them to come. Israel is a better life than Russia. Those are easier to prove.

MadBomber,

They're not even Jews! Emphasis added:

Israel is an immigrant settler society based on an ethnonationalist structure, as defined both ideologically and institutionally. In a very different context than immigrant-receiving societies in Europe and North America, immigration is open to anyone who can prove Jewish ethnicity, but is extremely difficult for non-Jews. Israel, which views itself as the homeland of the Jewish diaspora, characterizes its Jewish newcomers as "returning ethnic immigrants""in other words, legitimate members of the ethnic Jewish majority.
...
Until the end of the 1980s, most of the arriving immigrants in Israel were of Jewish origin, strengthening the Jewish majority vis--vis the native Arab population. Since the middle of the 1990s, however, the ethnic composition of the migration flows has changed. Three groups of non-Jewish migrants have arrived in Israel:
non-Jewish migrants, primarily from the former Soviet Union (FSU) and Ethiopia, arriving under the auspices of the 1970 amendment of the Law of Return
temporary labor migrants, chiefly from Asia, who were recruited to replace Palestinian workers after the first Intifada (the Palestinian uprising in 1987), and
asylum seekers from sub-Saharan Africa crossing the southern Egyptian border without authorization since the middle of the 2000s.

"Israel is mostly a secular state."

Looking at the Israeli flag tells a different story, don't you think?

A secular state... with special privileges for members of a certain religion.
Is this some kind of Separate But Equal secularism they have going on, like we enforced by law centuries, and still enforce through custom and tradition? (Yes.)

It's amazing to me that rescuing hostages is a bad thing.
#132 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Ask Jimmy Carter how that worked out for him!

"the least amount of risk to those carrying out the operation."

That's not saying much.

20% losses to friendly fire and accidents is the IDF gold standard in Gaza.

"Article 13"

Actions speak louder than words.

Actions that killed 30,000 Gazans speak louder than actions that killed 1,200 Israelis.

Twenty five times louder.

"And charters which refused to be amended, speak louder than everything."

Setting aside that it was amended, No ,that's still just words.

But go on and be a MadBomber and tell us the National Socialist were Socialists because of their charter, if that's your thing

If it's not, maybe you have some thoughts on the Zionist charter, which calls for the same thing as the Hamas charter, with a few pronouns swapped?

"Only one of the two has destruction of the other in their charter."

Only one has killed 1,200 civilians.

The other has killed 1,200 civilians, then another 1,200 civilians, then another 1,200 civilians, then another 1,200 civilians, then another 1,200 civilians, then another 1,200 civilians, then another 1,200 civilians, then another 1,200 civilians, then another 1,200 civilians, then another 1,200 civilians, then another 1,200 civilians, then another 1,200 civilians, then another 1,200 civilians, then another 1,200 civilians, then another 1,200 civilians, then another 1,200 civilians, then another 1,200 civilians, then another 1,200 civilians, then another 1,200 civilians, then another 1,200 civilians, then another 1,200 civilians, then another 1,200 civilians.

Did you use Vernon's Calculator when you figured out which of those is worse?

but that's just idiocy on their part. What say you?
#140 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

Idiocy? It's no less idiotic than founding Israel. In fact, that idiocy is the precipitating event for all the subsequent idiocy!

Dismissing it as idiocy is dismissing that the cause of the current problem is the hard-liners.

But also asln admission that Israel's hard-liners are incapable of a peaceful resolution.

And it's also masking the fact that Zionism has never once been interested in accepting a peaceful coexistence, but rather, has the exact same goal as Hamas. Unlike Hamas, they announced it over a century ago -- before the Islamic Resistance movement had anything to resist.

That's what I say.

"How about if you post Hamas's preamble?"

How about you post Zionist foundational documents?

They say pretty much the same thing, but you'll never admit it, and I can only assume Jews in Hollywood is why.

Knock yourself out, kid.

The right of the Jewish people to the land of Israel is eternal and indisputable ... therefore, Judea and Samaria will not be handed to any foreign administration; between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty. "Likud Party Platform, 1977

Likud was founded before Hamas was even born!
As a matter of fact, Likud is why Hamas was born.

"I don't believe there are any heroes on either side."

You don't believe Israel is as bad as Hamas, though.

Even after reading the Likud charter from 1977, you still won't see it.

Prove me wrong!

" I don't believe there are any heroes on either side"

Staying what you don't believe, well that isn't saying much of anything. It's a cop out. You're better than this.

Or maybe you are not.

"Both sides are full of war criminals. It's insulting you keep pretending otherwise."

You keep only saying Hamas is the problem, because of their charter.
You've never said Israel is the problem because of the Zionist goals or the Likud charter!

Is Israel as much of a problem as Hamas?

Or is Israel somehow not as much of a problem as Hamas, despite killing far more civilians and perpetuating a one-sided war for nearly a year now?

What say you?

"I see a lot of incendiary verbiage, but nothing which demands destruction of the Palestinians"

The charter clearly calls for the political nullification of any representation for the Palestinian people.
If you can't read between the lines, it is because you are being obstinately stupid.

"THERE IS NO DIPLOMATIC RESPONSE TO DEMANDS FOR YOUR GENOCIDE."

Go read the Likud Charter again.
You'll find the political response.
It's the same as the thing being responded to.

How do you not get this?
???

"Even if I agree with you, it's not the same as genocide."

Which is closer to genocide?
killing 1200 civilians and destroying a few dozen homes,
or killing 30,000 civilians, displacing well over a million of them, and destroying 90% of their homes?

Since you sure seem to think about geocide a lot, that should be an easy one!
But I'm guessing it won't be an easy one.

"Nice of you to admit there is no mirroring language."

There is mirroring language.

"Settlement. both urban and rural. in all parts of the Land of Israel is the focal point of the Zionist effort to redeem the country, to maintain vital security areas and serves as a reservoir of strength and inspiration for the renewal of the pioneering spirit. "

How you gonna "settle" a land when someone else lives there, Danforth?

Just tell us how, and you'll find your mirroring langauge.

Call me crazy, but "we want everything" is different from "we want everything, and you dead."

You're crazy.

Just look at the body counts. 30,000 dead civilians and 90% homes destroyed should pencil in the "we want you dead" part but apparently that's too much to ask from you.

"Nice of you to admit there is no mirroring language."

Show me what you want mirrored, exactly.

Because this:
"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it"

Is mirrored by what I quoted from Likud, in these words: "The right of the Jewish people to the land of Israel is eternal and indisputable and is linked with the right to security and peace; therefore, Judea and Samaria will not be handed to any foreign administration; between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty."

^
That calls for the obliteration of Palestine, as a nation.

Now, tell me you can't see it, so that you may continue to play the fool!

Coincidentally, it was the Zionist Jews who first said "From the River to the Sea" long before Israel was founded, and is echoed in the Likud Charter.

Good talk, son.