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Wednesday, August 07, 2024

Vice President Kamala Harris earned Democrats their highest lead over former President Donald Trump in nearly a year, according to a poll from Morning Consult.

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"On August 16, 2023, President Joe Biden was found to be ahead of Trump by 5 points among national voters surveyed by Morning Consult.

The day before Biden dropped out of the 2024 race, the pollster found him to be 6 points behind the former president (47 percent to 41 percent)."

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"Harris, the presumptive Democratic nominee, also leads Trump by 5 points among independent voters (42 percent to 37 percent) in Monday's poll and was beating the former president by 9 points among young voters between the ages of 18 and 34 (49 percent to 40 percent). The survey has a margin of error of 1 percentage point.

The vice president was also found to have a higher favorability rating than Trump, with 48 percent of voters saying they have a favorable view of Harris, compared to 47 percent who have an unfavorable view.

Trump's favorability rating was in the negatives "46 percent of voters said that had a favorable view of the former president, while 52 percent who view him unfavorably."

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2024-08-05 08:58 PM | Reply

The------------------- will be lucky if he stays within 10 million votes of the VP.

#2 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-08-06 02:32 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

46 percent of voters said that had a favorable view of the former president
#1 | Posted by Corky

It's insane that anyone has a favorable view of the POS.

#3 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-08-06 03:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

And the momentum will continue, first the barnstorming tour of the swing states, and another week of appearances in front of packed houses, then on the 19th the DNC starts. Each day she is gaining one half to one point on Dotard. By time the DNC is over, the lead will hopefully be insurmountable.

The orange diaper-sharter has no answer for her other than to lie about her intelligence and ability to speak extemporaneously (off the cuff for you MAGAts) two areas where she as a prosecutor excells, and each appearance proves it to America. Of course this is complete projection for Dotard who speaks like a retarded second grader trying to tell a joke and meandering all over hells half acre never able to find a point, all while glitching multiple times per story.

The lazy orange oaf no longer has the stamina to campaign at the pace that Kamala and Walz can, he's good for about one Klan rally per week, and since his choice of venues is so small due to his failure to pay his bills, he's holding his hate fests in deep red areas, and Just Depressing Vance can't get past the --------- jokes, and comes across as a complete charlatan so he's no help at all.

And finally Dotard gets sentenced on the election interference case the day before the DNC, how great would it be if he had to wear an ankle monitor and turn over his passport.

#4 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2024-08-07 04:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

We saw what egregious lengths the petulant loser was willing to go to in a close loss to a white man. His enormous ego will not be able to handle the tsunami loss to a black woman that is shaping up. I fear what he and his deplorable faithful will be willing to do to enshrine him upon his throne.

#5 | Posted by MBlue at 2024-08-07 10:58 AM | Reply

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#6 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2024-08-07 11:02 AM | Reply

A 5% lead nationally probably translates to a dead heat in the electoral college. And that's to say nothing of our SCOTUS "majority" who would likely resolve any electoral dispute in Trump's favor, regardless of the merits.

Harris needs to win nationally by 10%. Everyone talk to your neighbors; this needs to be a landslide.

#7 | Posted by JOE at 2024-08-07 11:05 AM | Reply

The Popular Vote is great and all, but as we all know, it comes down to the EC,
and in the EC, Trump is still ahead in some vital states polls. I will feel
much better when he is not.

And then there are the 'dirty tricks' that we ALL know the GOP plans to implement.

I am especially concerned in 3 states, GA--where Kemp has tossed out 10's of thousands of
voters as 'ineligible', PA--where the country bumpkins are extremely thick out state,
and there are many racists among them (i.e. it will be very hard to pull some of these votes),
and WI, which is always tight, within like 3% pts, and for which the GOP has continuously played
dirty tricks with gerrymandering, poll watching, trying to eliminate eligible voters, etc...

Unless the Dems can peel away NC or GA, or FL or AZ even, it is going to be another
nail biter of an election night.

I believe NC, GA, and PA should be must wins for Harris and Co. if they want a real shot at it.

#8 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-08-07 11:26 AM | Reply

" Trump is still ahead in some vital states polls."

Polls don't reflect pissed off women, which has caused results to be 5-10 pts better for the Dems than the polls.

Kansas
Ohio
Alabama
Ohio, again (OH06)

All harbingers.

In addition, women's rights are on the ballot in AZ, FL, and NV.

Roevember will bring a Blue Tsu.

#9 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-08-07 11:37 AM | Reply

It's insane that anyone has a favorable view of the POS.
#3 | POSTED BY WHATSLEFT

Propaganda and the anti-social media now supercharged by AI.

#10 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-08-07 11:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Harris raised $310 MILLION in July.

$20 Million + yesterday after announcing Tim.

Sh*tler should be panicking.

Polls don't reflect pissed off women,

Kansas and Ohio thought they had abortion votes locked up until people went to the polls and told them it is none of your business what happens to a woman's body. Thomas and Alito opened a HUGE CAN OF WORMS overturning Roe.

Sh*tler under performed the polls by double digits in the primaries. Hell Nikki drew 20% of the vote in one state AFTER she dropped out.

18-24 year old registrations are up up up after Kamala was selected.

People are tired of the GOP working ONLY for the 1% and normalizing hatred at anyone not of the favored sexual orientation and religion and race. Period.

#11 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-08-07 11:57 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#9 ... Polls don't reflect pissed off women ...

Current polling is mostly of Registered Voters (the RV in the Sample column on the RCP summary).

As Election Days nears, the polling moves over towards Likely Voters (LV in that column).

RCP summary: www.realclearpolling.com

Those pissed off women you oft mention would, in my view, be a lot more likely to vote.

Also, take a peek at the RCP Senate polling results. There's a lot of blue there. www.realclearpolling.com

#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-08-07 12:01 PM | Reply

Polls don't reflect pissed off women

What? Women are part of polling. This claim makes no sense.

Stop prancing around like this is in the bag; we cannot afford one voter to become complacent.

#13 | Posted by JOE at 2024-08-07 12:28 PM | Reply

@#13 ... Women are part of polling ...

Yes, they are.

But, as I have noted previously, the goal is to get registered voters into the voting booth.

That is a big task ahead of the Harris/Walz campaign. Voter turnout.


#14 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-08-07 12:37 PM | Reply

" What? Women are part of polling. This claim makes no sense."

Sure it does. Ask yourself: How are polls made?

The pollster takes the results and then adjusts the results to reflect the electorate. And what electorate? The 2020 Presidential Election.

That doesn't take P.O.'d women into consideration.

And it's why the KS abortion rights vote passed, when polls said it would fail. It's why red Ohio got OVER 60% (despite the polls) when women's rights were on the ballot. Most recently, OH06, a +29 Trump district, went to the (R) by only 9. All the election results since Dobbs have bettered the polls by multiple points. It follows the next election will as well.

#15 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-08-07 01:25 PM | Reply

" Stop prancing around like this is in the bag"

Who's prancing? I'm just observing.

It's going to take a lot of work, of course, but after Yesterday's rally in Philadelphia, I actually believe the Democrats are up to it.

I also believe MAGA deserves every bit of the crushing it's going to get.

#16 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-08-07 01:30 PM | Reply

The pollster takes the results and then adjusts the results to reflect the electorate. And what electorate? The 2020 Presidential Election.

What pollster has a methodology that changes womens' actual responses to line them up with a previous election?

#17 | Posted by JOE at 2024-08-07 02:02 PM | Reply

-And it's why the KS abortion rights vote passed, when polls said it would fail.

I've been looking and I can't find anything that tells me the polls said it would fail.

#18 | Posted by eberly at 2024-08-07 03:27 PM | Reply

www.pewresearch.org
% of adults in Kansas who say abortion should be ...
Legal in all/most cases, Illegal in all/most cases, don't know:
49/49/3

fox4kc.com
"KANSAS CITY, Kan. " The first public poll for Kansas' abortion amendment on the August 2 ballot shows the race is close.
47% of Kansan voters plan to vote "Yes" on the ballot measure, while 43% plan to vote "No." Ten percent are undecided."

kansasreflector.com
"Kansas voters defeat abortion amendment in unexpected landslide"
The amendment passed 60/40.

#19 | Posted by YAV at 2024-08-07 06:08 PM | Reply

@#17 ... What pollster has a methodology that changes womens' actual responses to line them up with a previous election? ...

In my knowledge, none.

OK, let me take a step back and explain what does happen (based upon a good part of my career being in market research).

A pollster starts out the universe of people (e.g., "registered voters" or "likely voters").

The universe is large, so a sample of that universe is needed. You could say something like ~let's sample every 100 people~ but how do you know the demographics that would result from that type of sample would represent the "likely voters" that you want to survey.

So the pollsters set up a "sampling frame" that outlines the nature of the sample they want.

The sampling frame may specify something like... size of the sample frame (i.e., number of people to be polled), percentages from each of age groups, the balance of education, sex (or gender) percentages, political leanings, etc.

Then a polling sample is gathered that meets the defined frame, and that sample is polled.

The sampling frame may be one reason why Rassmussen Reports seems to trend towards the right in their results, their sampling frame have more right-leaning people.

The question to ask with the 2024 polling is: have the sampling frames been adjusted to accommodate the "p-o'd" women, or have they remained the same as the 2020 election?

My guess is along the lines of.. when the polls start listing "likely voters" as the sample universe, the pollsters may have taken the 2022 results into account and used the abortion wins and large voter turnouts to adjust the frame criteria used this year.

But that is just a guess on my part.

#20 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-08-07 06:08 PM | Reply

Thanks Yav....I hadn't found that.

So the results were not what the polls indicated would happen.

#21 | Posted by eberly at 2024-08-07 06:14 PM | Reply

I can't get over these polls!

These polls are getting so exciting I feel like an Olympic pole vaulter who can't quite get over the pole because of his huge pole!

#22 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-08-07 06:16 PM | Reply

Right, Eberly. Not so much that it's be defeated outright but that it was close. The final results were much different than the polling indicated, though, which I think was the point being made.

#23 | Posted by YAV at 2024-08-07 06:22 PM | Reply

46 percent of voters said that had a favorable view of the former president
#1 | Posted by Corky
It's insane that anyone has a favorable view of the POS.
#3 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-08-06 03:28 PM

This 46% details the exact amount of people in this country that are largely 'lost causes'. Either hopelessly racist, hopelessly parti1san, or hopelessly lost in life.

#24 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-08-07 06:28 PM | Reply

5% lead nationally probably translates to a dead heat in the electoral college. And that's to say nothing of our SCOTUS "majority" who would likely resolve any electoral dispute in Trump's favor, regardless of the merits.

Harris needs to win nationally by 10%. Everyone talk to your neighbors; this needs to be a landslide.

#7 | POSTED BY JOE

She's going to win by 15-20%.

She's also taking all the "swing/tossup" states plus there will be a few surprise red states turning blue. The polls are skewed at least 10% towards Trump/GOP.

#25 | Posted by a_monson at 2024-08-08 01:22 AM | Reply

It's as binary choice, and this is no false dichotomy:

Violent, destructive, childish anger to upend everything and enrich the few,
vs
Constructive, optimistic, and patient collaborativeness to benefit the many.

#26 | Posted by Augustine at 2024-08-08 02:41 AM | Reply

It's as binary choice as ever. This is no false dichotomy!

#27 | Posted by Augustine at 2024-08-08 02:45 AM | Reply

Just remember, as 'Uncle (George) Carlin' always said,
"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups".

And if anything has EVER described the current GOP, it is that
statement right there above.

I want to believe that America is still not a Majority Moron Nation,
but as they say, the 'proof is in the pudding'. 'Never count your eggs
until they are hatched', or some such saying...

#28 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-08-08 11:02 AM | Reply

LOL... Wait until she has to answer questions using complete sentences that actually make sense.

#29 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-08-08 12:57 PM | Reply

Yes let's wait. She will make trump look like the stooge that he is. Trump is a mess, and can't speak or give answers himself. All he does is lie, brag, and complain. Anyone can do that. Harris will clean his clock in the debate as well. Lying is not a great strategy against someone much smarter than he is (and she is). She will be ahead by 10% in 2 more weeks.

#30 | Posted by NOTGOINGBACK at 2024-08-09 12:46 AM | Reply

I don't overestimate Harris to pull off a 10% nationally

And I don't underestimate Trump to do everything in his bag of dirty tricks to prevent it. Right now he seems to be concentrating on preventing a Harris certification in the important swing states where she is leading. Only one, so far, state (Georgia) has made a rule change that gives them the authority to stop the certification (if it's for Harris) for what they call "reasonable" cause while they decide what is "reasonable."

The kicker is that Georgia's rule change is in violation of the State's Election Rules. This is going to turn into a shootout at the OK Corral.

#31 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-08-09 04:31 AM | Reply

Kamala Harris must flaunt her youthfulness and quick wit, and not let Trump and Vance get away with boorish behaviors like stage stalking, name calling and sexist or bigoted verbal rants. Emphasizing appreciation for all vs Trump & Vance's disdain for nearly everyone, and her willingness to listen and find solutions collaboratively. For every fault Trump & Vance have, the contrast between her and them has to be spotlighted.

#32 | Posted by Augustine at 2024-08-09 05:27 AM | Reply

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