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Friday, October 04, 2024

The U.S. economy added far more jobs than expected in September, pointing to a vital labor market as the unemployment rate edged lower. Nonfarm payrolls surged by 254,000 for the month, up from a revised 159,000 in August and better than the 150,000 Dow Jones consensus forecast. The unemployment rate fell to 4.1%, down 0.1 percentage point.

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There will be one more monthly jobs report before Federal Reserve policymakers meet in early November. But that data, for October, is likely to be skewed by the hurricane disaster and strike. So the Fed may put greater emphasis on the September report. The Fed chair, Jerome H. Powell, has said he and the policymaking committee "do not seek or welcome further cooling in labor market conditions."

The number is even more impressive given that previous months were revised up, adding 72,000 jobs to July and August. July had previously been revised down - these numbers are moving around a lot.

Job growth was pretty broad-based. Manufacturing was the only major sector to lose jobs. Health care employment boomed, as did leisure and hospitality. The construction and retail sectors also added a significant number of jobs.

www.nytimes.com

Fair winds filling the sails, proving the enduring resilience of our economy, even after all the naysayers are proven wrong again and again as they've predicted downturns and rising employment ever since the end of the pandemic.

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-04 08:45 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Not just exceeded....OBLITERATED the forecast.

#2 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-10-04 09:12 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Diamond Joe just walked into the White House briefing room unexpected, and touted today's economic news and the overall strength of the US economy, along with thanking both the ILS union and the port owners for reaching their agreement and suspending the strike.

He took a number of questions, one of them being his response to Marco Rubio claiming today's employment/unemployment numbers are "fake". He refused to take the bait, verbalizing that he would like to say more but wasn't going to.

Funny, Trump has built his entire campaign around the notion that "he alone can fix" America's problems. Seems that Sleepy Joe is indeed Dark Brandon as he and his envoys were the ones who brought the union and port owners together reminding them of how important their roles are in both the economy and the hurricane relief efforts, leading to the agreement.

Not too bad for someone that Republicans insist isn't really running the country. He's doing a damn sight better than Donald Trump was this time 4 years ago, isn't he?

#3 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-04 02:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Vote for the economic failure who presided over this.
abcnews.go.com

#4 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-10-04 02:32 PM | Reply

Not just exceeded....OBLITERATED the forecast.

#2 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-10-04 09:12 AM | Reply | Flag

The last time we "obliterated" the forecast, the numbers got walked back over 800K...

This is false advertisement for the election next month.

#5 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-10-04 03:10 PM | Reply

But all I hear from Republicans is that we need Trump to fix the Biden/harris economy. When I tell them they are full of balogna they don't believe me because they are cult memers unable to blieve their cult leader would lie to them.

#6 | Posted by danni at 2024-10-04 03:39 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I don't understand why thinking individual would have confidence in these numbers.

It's hilarious people take this release seriously, after years of it being incorrect.

Let's wait to the revision before we pop the Champagne.

#7 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-10-04 03:50 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#6 Do you also them your fake Trump alarming Wheaties price story?

#8 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2024-10-04 03:52 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Behind Today's Stunning Jobs Report: A Record Surge In Government Workers

While government workers soared by the most on record, private workers rose by just 133K, a far more believable number, and one which however would indicate that the recent labor market malaise continues.

What is odd is that while September traditionally sees a huge jump in not seasonally adjusted government workers (as teachers go back to school), the BLS has traditionally smoothed over this jump using seasonal adjustments.

Curiously, it wasn't just the Household survey that tracked an unprecedented increase in government workers: if one takes the Establishment survey unadjusted print (source Table B1 from the jobs report), one sees the exact same thing. Here, the number of not seasonally adjusted government workers soared by 918K (from 22.541 million to 23.459 million), while the number of not seasonally adjusted private sector workers plunged by 458K!

#9 | Posted by commnotes at 2024-10-04 03:59 PM | Reply

Trump to leave office with the worst jobs record since Herbert Hoover

finance.yahoo.com

That's a hell of a legacy for the bankruptcy-prone kid diddler.

#10 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-10-04 04:04 PM | Reply

Behind Today's Stunning Jobs Report: A Record Surge In Government Workers

#9 | Posted by commnotes

Yeah when you pass a massive infrastructure bill, it tends to create government jobs.

Wanna whine about updating our country's infrastructure?

#11 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-10-04 04:06 PM | Reply

Total nonfarm payroll employment increased by 254,000 in September, higher than the average
monthly gain of 203,000 over the prior 12 months. In September, employment continued to trend
up in food services and drinking places, health care, government, social assistance, and
construction. (See table B-1.)

Employment in food services and drinking places rose by 69,000 in September, well above the
average monthly gain of 14,000 over the prior 12 months.

Health care added 45,000 jobs in September, below the average monthly gain of 57,000 over the
prior 12 months. Over the month, employment rose in home health care services (+13,000),
hospitals (+12,000), and nursing and residential care facilities (+9,000).

Employment in government continued its upward trend in September (+31,000). Government had an
average monthly gain of 45,000 jobs over the prior 12 months
. Over the month, employment
continued to trend up in local government (+16,000) and state government (+13,000).

Employment in social assistance increased by 27,000 in September, primarily in individual and
family services (+21,000). Over the prior 12 months, social assistance had added an average of
21,000 jobs per month.

Construction employment continued to trend up in September (+25,000), similar to the average
monthly gain over the prior 12 months (+19,000). Over the month, nonresidential specialty
trade contractors added 17,000 jobs.

Employment showed little change over the month in other major industries, including mining,
quarrying, and oil and gas extraction; manufacturing; wholesale trade; retail trade;
transportation and warehousing; information; financial activities; professional and business
services; and other services.

www.bls.gov

#9 is a complete LIE. Look at the numbers released by the BLS above and they're nothing like what this new gaslighter claims.

Do the math yourself: Food services - 69,000; Healthcare - 45,000; GOVERNMENT - 31,000 (14,000 BELOW the 12-month average); Social assistance - 27,000; Construction - 25,000 = 172,000 with the other sectors accounting for the balance - noted in the last paragraph.

Why do you people have to lie incessantly when the truth is readily available?

#12 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-04 04:15 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

#7

The change in total nonfarm payroll employment for July was revised up by 55,000, from +89,000
to +144,000, and the change for August was revised up by 17,000, from +142,000 to +159,000.
With these revisions, employment in July and August combined is 72,000 higher than previously
reported
. (Monthly revisions result from additional reports received from businesses and
government agencies since the last published estimates and from the recalculation of seasonal
factors.)

www.bls.gov

Yeah, let's wait for the revisions .... oops!

#13 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-04 04:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Why do you people have to lie incessantly when the truth is readily available?

Because they're either brain-damaged and/or liars that count on no one checking. They hope to push the lie and have it take root before reality kills it. They offer nothing, have nothing to offer so all they can do is piss on everything else and lie about it.

#14 | Posted by YAV at 2024-10-04 04:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#7 ... I don't understand why thinking individual would have confidence in these numbers. ...

Is that, grammatically flawed comment, indicative of a problem with the numbers or your current alias' apparent inability to understand the numbers?


#15 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-05 01:54 AM | Reply

It's interesting that so many Trump supporters bad mouth the Biden economy in spite of its obvious achievements. If they are being sincere, what they are referring to is their personal economy being in the toilet, not the US economy. I would like to see reporters doing these interviews confront these nay-sayers with the facts so as to gage their reactions to being fact checked in real time.

#16 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2024-10-05 06:40 AM | Reply

It's obvious that the MAGA-controlled Grand Old People's party really doesn't like America after all. They like the version they tucked away in amber, the one in which harsh realities like injustice and pandemics were invisible to them.

#17 | Posted by cbob at 2024-10-05 09:02 AM | Reply

If they are being sincere, what they are referring to is their personal economy being in the toilet, not the US economy.

It's actually just the opposite. I heard pollsters talking about this topic yesterday. To a person, they all say the same thing: When they ask people all over the country how they think the economy is, people tell them that personally they're doing fine, but "they're heard" the economy is bad elsewhere for other Americans.

And where are they hearing this? All over conservative/Trumpist media who even on days when great economic news comes out still finds a way to prognosticate that doom is lurking around the corner because of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. Trump has been doing this ever since he came down his golden escalator. When there's good economic news, it's because the markets are factoring in Trump's re-election and when there's bad news, it's due to the Democrats and the markets recoiling from them for some unstated reason.

There are essentially two realities these days. One for normal people seeing life as it exists and happens, and the second, for people unable to view life without partisan politics being inherent in everything, always with a zero-sum mentality as though it's impossible for everyone to benefit or be happy at the same time due to the same events.

#18 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-05 10:17 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

that's good

I'll wait for the correction that's coming and that's always less.

#19 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-10-05 10:47 AM | Reply

Let's wait to the revision before we pop the Champagne.

#7 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

If the numbers had gone the other way you would have already drank a case and be dancing in the streets.

#20 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-10-05 12:43 PM | Reply

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