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Trump Blinked on North American Tariffs
President Donald Trump "blinked" on his tariffs against Canada and Mexico before they could cause real harm to the economy, the conservative Wall Street Journal editorial board wrote on Monday.
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Mexico & Canada did literally nothing to stop the Trump tariffs. The stock market stopped the tariffs as Wall Street always assumed it would. -- Lawrence O'Donnell (@lawrenceodonnell.msnbc.com) February 3, 2025 at 5:00 PM
Mexico & Canada did literally nothing to stop the Trump tariffs. The stock market stopped the tariffs as Wall Street always assumed it would.
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Canada and Mexico caved and agreed to do what they previously were doing under Biden.
Thats the fart of the deal.
#1 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-02-04 08:10 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
This is going to end up like the debt ceiling fiasco. Every 30 days another panic deadline to deal with.
#2 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-02-04 08:38 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
Blinked?
He got his ass handed to him.
But he is now taking a victory lap and that is all that matters.
He just needs to look like he is doing something. Actual facts mean nothing.
#3 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-02-04 09:33 AM | Reply
MAGA Trumpers are so stupid. They couldn't pour piss out of a boot with the instructions written on the heel.
#4 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-02-04 09:36 AM | Reply
Another view ...
Trump's tariff reversal feeds reputation as paper tiger on trade www.moneycontrol.com
... President Donald Trump pledged hundreds of billions in tariffs to remake the global economy and target even his closest neighbors. But so far, it's been more Art of the Deal than a revolution. Trump on Monday shelved plans for wide-ranging tariffs on Canada and Mexico, after doing the same for Colombia the prior week. In each case, Trump relented despite countries promising only modest changes on border security and immigration. Trump and his allies have held up those concessions as vindication of his approach. But the US president's willingness - at least for now - to hold off tariffs has underscored doubts over whether Trump, who famously obsesses over market performance, might once again prove a paper tiger on his more fiery trade threats. ...
Trump on Monday shelved plans for wide-ranging tariffs on Canada and Mexico, after doing the same for Colombia the prior week. In each case, Trump relented despite countries promising only modest changes on border security and immigration.
Trump and his allies have held up those concessions as vindication of his approach. But the US president's willingness - at least for now - to hold off tariffs has underscored doubts over whether Trump, who famously obsesses over market performance, might once again prove a paper tiger on his more fiery trade threats. ...
#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-04 02:22 PM | Reply
No he didn't. This was always part of Trump's plan. It's all stock manipulation so Trump and his billionaire allies can profit from the swings.
#6 | Posted by censored at 2025-02-04 02:51 PM | Reply
Again you Liberal morons got played again. "The market will crash!" It didn't. "Canada and Mexico will crush our economy with the tariffs!" Didn't happen. So much losing for all of you. LOL
#7 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-02-04 02:57 PM | Reply
- Didn't happen.
Only because you Cult Leader ran away, postponing his stupid threats.
#8 | Posted by Corky at 2025-02-04 03:01 PM | Reply
@#7 ... "The market will crash!" It didn't. "Canada and Mexico will crush our economy with the tariffs!" Didn't happen. ...
It didn't happen because Pres Trump caved.
I'm not convinced it was the Liberals who got played on this one.
#9 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-04 03:03 PM | Reply
"The market will crash!" It didn't."
The markets literally crashed you idiot.
Until Trumpy let it leak that he was not serious.
"It didn't happen because Pres Trump caved."
Exactly. Maga morons gotta be morons. What are you gonna do!?
Can't live with them and you can't eat em.
#10 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-02-04 09:57 PM | Reply
@#10 ... The markets literally crashed ...
Yeah, I don't agree with that.
A significant drop?
Yes.
A crash?
I'm not buying into that.
#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-04 10:07 PM | Reply
@#3 ... Blinked?
But he is now taking a victory lap and that is all that matters. ...
Yeah, I noticed that also.
Pres Trump is taking a victory lap when Canada and Mexico have handed his most ample derriere back to him.
But this is only phase one.
In a month, I suspect we will be discussing this topic again.
Will Pres Trump back down once again, tail between his legs, a month from now?
At this point, I have to ask, is Pres Trump trying to turn his policies with other countries into a serial drama/comedy to do little more than draw attention to himself?
I'm thinking of the daytime soap operas.
#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-04 10:16 PM | Reply
Pres Trump is taking a victory lap when Canada and Mexico have handed his most ample derriere back to him. Yep. And yes, we might see this again in a month, unless he learned his lesson from this fiasco. The markets and everyone else, including the WSJ went ------- over this clusterfcck of nonsense. I'm sure that's one of the main reasons he caved so quickly.
#13 | Posted by YAV at 2025-02-04 10:26 PM | Reply
I guess "Crash" is a relative term.
Fine. Pic nicker.
Stocks plummeted. And recovered after Trump "pauses" tariff threat.
Dow rebounds from steep decline to finish with 100-point loss after Trump pauses tariffs on Mexico:
www.nbcnewyork.com
Regardless Fishpoo lied again.
#14 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-02-04 10:39 PM | Reply
Are we all happy to the outcome?
I know I am. No tariff war. I don't care whether it makes Trump look good or bad.
#15 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-02-04 11:00 PM | Reply
@#15 ... Are we all happy to the outcome? ...
What is the outcome?
Basically, just more of the same.
So, Pres Trump intentionally created a lot of turmoil for what?
Status quo? So that he could back off with his tail between his legs?
No, I am not happy about that scenario.
#16 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-04 11:18 PM | Reply
No tariff war.
See you in 30 days.
#17 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-02-04 11:20 PM | Reply
Of course, he did it's all an old man's bluster. He's shaping a future he'll never live to see.
#18 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-02-05 01:35 AM | Reply
@#17 ... See you in 30 days. ...
In some respects, I would agree.
Pres Trump has seen the blow back from his ~tail between the legs~ retreat from his original tariff mess.
So, in 30 days, yeah, what may happen?
The 30-days aspect aside ...
I have to ask, is this the way we treat our friends going forward?
Subjecting them to constant vacuous whims of punishment?
Maybe another question to ask is, does Pres Trump have any actual personal friends? If so, how does he treat them? Does he understand the concept of friendship?
#19 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-05 02:02 AM | Reply
Maybe another question to ask is, does Pres Trump have any actual personal friends?
He doesn't even have a dog.
#20 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-02-05 02:21 AM | Reply
this BS lie still up ?
guess you guys haven't whacked off to it enough...
#21 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-02-05 10:36 AM | Reply
Can't you keep your personal freaks to yourself. Jeez, not even that interesting.
#22 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-02-05 10:43 AM | Reply
STD still can't figure out what's true - or just loves to lie. Not sure which.
#23 | Posted by YAV at 2025-02-05 12:16 PM | Reply
" What is the outcome?
With Canada - pretty much.
Mexico? They are moving 10,000 troops to the border to tighten up control. That is definitely a positive outcome.
#24 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-02-05 01:50 PM | Reply
That was committed to under Biden. What's new is the promise to stop the flow of guns from the US to Mexico that Sheinbaum negotiated. You know this, why are you not being straight up honest about it?
#25 | Posted by YAV at 2025-02-05 01:58 PM | Reply | Funny: 1
What's new is the promise to stop the flow of guns from the US to Mexico that Sheinbaum negotiated
Never gonna happen.
#26 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-02-05 05:14 PM | Reply
" That was committed to under Biden"
Did it happen? Not that I'm aware of and I never saw reporting about it.
Words without actions are meaningless.
#27 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-02-05 06:23 PM | Reply
Yes, we already know that if you didn't see the reporting then (for you) it didn't happen. Unless it's something you "feel" has to be true. Then no matter what, you won't be swayed.
The change that was needed was Obrador out and Sheinbaum in.
"One sticking point for Mexicans in negotiations with Americans over fentanyl, as NBC News previously reported, was the high number of U.S.-made guns that end up in Mexico, contributing to violence in the country. As part of the negotiations, the Justice Department is agreeing to do more to trace gun flow from the U.S. to Mexico."
www.nbcnews.com
#28 | Posted by YAV at 2025-02-05 06:43 PM | Reply
Yup. The RCMP caught 9 illegally crossing the border yesterday and another one today.
#29 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-02-05 06:45 PM | Reply
www.courthousenews.com
#30 | Posted by YAV at 2025-02-05 06:46 PM | Reply
American's fleeing the United States?
(actually my sister, who is Canadian, loves to send me stories about Americans that have been apprehended violating entry laws and "overstaying".)
#31 | Posted by YAV at 2025-02-05 06:48 PM | Reply
Yep. Bringing crime and drugs and raping everything in sight.
#32 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-02-05 06:52 PM | Reply
The tariffs were a distraction.
#33 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-02-05 06:54 PM | Reply
" Yes, we already know that if you didn't see the reporting then (for you) it didn't happen. Unless it's something you "feel" has to be true. Then no matter what, you won't be swayed."
Your link showed an informal agreement on both sides.
Nothing about 10,000 troops being sent to the border. Good on the Biden admin to take a measure to try and reduce fentanyl coming in. This recent deal was about more than just fentanyl. It was about strengthening the border as a whole.
Yav, your link is weak sauce. I see this most recent handshake as a net positive from a policy standpoint. As we move forward I don't care whether deals and outcomes make Trump look good or bad. I care about results and outcomes.
#34 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-02-05 06:58 PM | Reply
I am not going to connect obvious dots for you.
#35 | Posted by YAV at 2025-02-05 07:00 PM | Reply
BullBringer is sure Trump's "traiffs" would have saved America.
Thank God we're not in Obama's 4th term.
#36 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-02-05 07:00 PM | Reply
" I am not going to connect obvious dots for you.
#35 | POSTED BY YAV AT 2025-02-05 07:00 PM | REPLY | FLAG:"
I don't care. Results and outcomes. That's what I care about.
#37 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-02-05 07:07 PM | Reply | Funny: 1
Another embarrassing outcome for Trump. Not that any MAGAts are informed enough or smart enough to understand it. But the rest of us do. Especially the leaders of other nations. Trump is weak and stupid. He will walk right into the fist heading for America's jaw. Again and again. And each time MAGA will yell out, "Hizzah!". I do not believe that any time in my lifetime has America appeared so weak to the rest of the world. And it is only just beginning. Even Jimmy Carter looked like the Incredible Hulk compared to the Orange Puss.
#38 | Posted by moder8 at 2025-02-05 07:38 PM | Reply
I hope you enjoy all the results you are going to get.
#39 | Posted by YAV at 2025-02-05 08:30 PM | Reply
" I hope you enjoy all the results you are going to get.
#39 | POSTED BY YAV AT 2025-02-05 08:30 PM | FLAG: "
Thank you. I hope the results are ultimately to your satisfaction as well.
#40 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-02-05 10:34 PM | Reply
Another embarrassing outcome for Trump. ~ Moder8
I don't think so.
Ministry of Defense, Mexico: At 1:41 p.m., the Mazatln Area Control Center informed the National Center for Surveillance and Protection of Airspace (CENAVI) that it detected a flight 83 km southwest of Cabo San Lucas, Baja California Sur, outside of Mexican airspace over international waters.
Boeing RC-135V Rivet Joint spying on cartels, most likely. However, interestingly, the USS Nimitz Carrier Battlegroup is currently also in the vicinity. x.com
You people are so ill informed, especially LyinYav, she can't figure out what day it is.
#41 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-05 10:43 PM | Reply
Well a plane flying in international airspace is certainly proof the non-tariffs worked.
#42 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-02-05 10:57 PM | Reply
wow you got that from "X" ... you definitely know more than anyone here... ooooo wow.
#43 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-02-06 03:22 AM | Reply
Well a plane flying in international airspace is certainly proof the non-tariffs worked. #42 | POSTED BY REDIAL
US planes have previously been fired upon by SA countries, flying in international waters. This is a first, and Mexico knew it was happening.
US had to identify and get permission to fly through the ADIZ unescorted.
Related: ADIZ stands for Air Defense Identification Zone, which is a region of airspace where a country monitors aircraft for national security. ADIZs can extend beyond a country's borders to give the country more time to respond to aircraft that may be hostile.
How do ADIZs work? Countries unilaterally declare ADIZs. ADIZs help identify aircraft near a country's international airspace boundaries. Aircraft must file a flight plan before entering an ADIZ. Aircraft must provide a position report before entering an ADIZ. Aircraft must have a functioning two-way radio and listen to the appropriate aeronautical facility's frequency.
What it proves is the US and Mexico have begun cooperation.
#44 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-06 12:07 PM | Reply
#43 | POSTED BY RIGHTISTRITE
Strange right, Lumpers trash X, then learn things from it that you just don't find in the media.
I suspect you get your news from the Pravda of the West, Politico or NYT.
#45 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-06 12:08 PM | Reply
You mean utter nonsense and lies such as Ben Stiller being funded by USAID for his trips to Ukraine? A lie that Apartheid Clyde himself is pushing that is 100% false?
#46 | Posted by YAV at 2025-02-06 12:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
" I suspect you get your news from the Pravda of the West, Politico or NYT.
#45 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT AT 2025-02-06 12:08 PM | FLAG: "
Don't forget about AP.
#47 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-02-06 02:37 PM | Reply
Basically any news outlet that is fact based and seeks to provide the truth.
#48 | Posted by YAV at 2025-02-06 10:54 PM | Reply
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