Trump: No Right of Return for Palestinians Under Gaza Plan

November 2024...
Michigan Muslims shun Harris over Gaza war, turn to Stein, Trump
www.newarab.com

Now ...

In Michigan, some Arab American voters revisit their support for Trump after he suggests "take over" of Gaza Strip
www.cbsnews.com

The terrorist attacks that this inspire will be blamed on
A - transgenders
B - Biden
C- Obama
D - Clinton
E - California
F - The media
G - Antifa

Nearly 100,000 buildings have been damaged or destroyed. From space, Gaza looks like a wasteland. See links: link text link text

The environmental damage has been catastrophic from the toxic residue of detonated munitions, decaying bodies under rubble, and untreated sewage: All paid for by the hardworking American taxpayer. Adjusting for inflation, US aid to Israel from 1951 to 2022 totaled $317.9 billion, making it the largest recipient of American foreign aid since World War II. This money could have paid for a lot of healthcare right here in the "good ole U.S. of A." link text

I mourn what my government has done, and is doing, to the Palestinian people and the idea of a Palestinian state. The Occupied Territories are not America's to take.

This money could have paid for a lot of healthcare right here in the "good ole U.S. of A." link text

#8 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-02-11 03:06 AM | Reply | Flag:

You sound like a Trumper talking about the savings they're making with the govt cuts.

71 years of USAID to Israel would pay for 16.7% of US federal healthcare spending for 1 year.

The terrorist attacks that this inspire will be blamed on
A - transgenders
B - Biden
C- Obama
D - Clinton
E - California
F - The media
G - Antifa

#7 | Posted by SpeakSoftly a

Terrorist attacks with both the FBI and CIA purged and hobbled.

It's like Donald wants Americans to be killed.

And, as a criminal sociopath, of course he does.

The problem is that MAGA will forgive him killing him off.

WQe have his first term to prove that.

#10 | Posted by sitzkrieg a

There will be a Trump War.

More than one. Then we will get endless arguments from MAGA that they are not really wars.

And that Donald never lied to anyone when he said he was a man of peace.

" 71 years of USAID to Israel would pay for 16.7% of US federal healthcare spending for 1 year."

So basically ... seven decades of peace, paid for by two months of healthcare

Hella bargain.

The environmental damage has been catastrophic from the toxic residue of detonated munitions, decaying bodies under rubble, and untreated sewage #8 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS

Sounds like the area should be declared a superfund cleanup site. With the residents removed from the land for their safety. After it's spiffied up it can be given to Israel as partial reparations for October 7th.

"The terrorist attacks that this inspire will be blamed on ... "

DEI

I mourn what my government has done, and is doing, to the Palestinian people and the idea of a Palestinian state. The Occupied Territories are not America's to take.

#9 | Posted by Hughmass at 2025-02-11 07:22 AM | Reply | Flag:

How's it worked out for the last 100 years there? Do you mourn every 2 years after it gets rebuilt and get then gets blown up again and again? Do you mourn when Hamas comes in and uses the Palestine people as shields.
Trump's plan is something different and as of late the Arab countries are moving closer to be on board. They don't want Trump to rebuild it, they want to rebuild it. That is the best outcome and I would bet that is where Trump wanted it to end up.

The problem is that MAGA will forgive him killing him off.

WQe have his first term to prove that.

#11 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-11 08:20 AM | Reply | Flag:
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And his first term compared to Biden/Harris won him the election. Let that sink in.

Putin's orange bitch killed 1.2 million Americans. Let that sink in, fishpud.

Trump's plan is something different and as of late the Arab countries are moving closer to be on board.

#16 | Posted by fishpaw

What does MAGA stand for again? Make Israel great again? Rebuild the temple on the mount to usher in the apocalypse?

And his (Donald's) first term compared to Biden/Harris won him the election. Let that sink in.

#17 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

Yeah, well. I've already accommodated to the fact that there are millions of really stupid people in this country.

I've told you countless times what will happen to people like you over the next four years.

You and I together....We're on a death watch.

The catastrophe is already in progress.

See if you can suffer in dignity.

Trump's plan is something different

#16 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

Colonization is "something different"?

The Arab states were colonies within my lifetime.

But FISHPAW thinks that they years for the Good All Days.

GAZA has all the makings of a new American generational war.

I'll let your kids go to die there.

But maybe they are smarter than you are.

Trump's plan is something different and as of late the Arab countries are moving closer to be on board.

#16 | Posted by fishpaw

What does MAGA stand for again? Make Israel great again? Rebuild the temple on the mount to usher in the apocalypse?

#19 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-02-11 02:15 PM | Reply | Flag:
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Just watched the King of Jordan, he's on board.
What does MAGA stand for? Make America Great Again by bringing peace to the ME so we don't need to send anymore $ or weapons there'

I do realize you would rather not have peace in the ME if it had anything to do with Trump. Good for you.

But FISHPAW thinks that they years for the Good All Days.

GAZA has all the makings of a new American generational war.

I'll let your kids go to die there.

But maybe they are smarter than you are.

#21 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-11 03:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

Hey stupid, how long has the region been at war? You think they should just continue the same old same old?

Like Speak, you would rather see people die than give Trump any credit for a peace deal.

You think they should just continue the same old same old?

#23 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

All Donald is doing is finding a new tar baby to be stuck to.

Jesus. You people were floating similar ideas about Iraq when George W. was around.

Remember George W.? Stupid man; failed president. You people don't even mention his name any more.

But you used to treat him as a god they way you now try to treat Trump.

An American colony in the Middle East is the silliest --------- thing I've ever head.

For about five dozen reasons even you could identify if you ever thought beyond whatever brain fart your Fuhrer is having that day.

"You think they should just continue the same old same old?"

So many questions so little time!

Why do you think we should even be involved? It's not our land and it's not our fight.

How is it putting America First?

How will it be paid for? Will Trumpy forego wasting our money on football and golf?

How will it make the price of eggs cheaper?

Do you enjoy being lied to?

What does MAGA stand for? Make America Great Again by bringing peace to the ME so we don't need to send anymore $ or weapons there'

I do realize you would rather not have peace in the ME if it had anything to do with Trump. Good for you.

#22 | Posted by fishpaw

Oh so standing up for israel makes america great but standing up for ukraine doens't.

Exhibit #426 that your party is run by putin.

Zed is seeing the most clearly where this is heading.

Quagmire and extended War. Israel Is not our Friend. They are Parasites.

The best thing would be to allow the UN and the ICC to do their work and bring Justice to the lawless region.

Trump is just trying to get rich and be a big shot at the same time. He's corrupt and Stupid.

War will cause him to lose everything if it goes wrong.

Which it probably will.

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"Soft power" of USAid has been one of the principal and indispensable tools in winning the Cold War and instrumental in advancing and maintaining democracies and peace in the world, including the Middle East.

Aid to Israel comes back not only as purchase contracts for military equipment and munitions, but also as valuable cooperation in military, medical/biotech, STEM and other R&D.

Focusing on Israel as the source of problems in the ME - as the Soviet and later Islamist propaganda have done for decades - is misplaced and simply ignores the history and both tribal and religious issues in the region.

For example, nearly 14 centuries of war between Sunni and Shi'a Muslims; expulsion of Hashemites by Wahhabis from what is now Saudi Arabia in 1919-1925 - one of many Arab "Nakba"s in ME; the centuries of occupations by different Arab and non-Arab entities, like Ottoman Empire occupation of Levant (including "Palestine") until early 20th century (though Turkiye, under Erdogan, is making its way back, initially as a 'protector' to Syria); Trans-Jordan occupation of "Palestine West Bank" etc., etc.

Also ignored is that several major Arab countries, like Egypt, Jordan, UAE and others either have or expressed interest in formal peace treaties or informal peaceful and trading relationship with Israel, and have had their own long-standing problems with Palestinian factions who can't even settle on single leadership - IOW, no one to talk to about whatever the peace with them would look like.

Last attempt at statehood - with Yassir Arafat in 1993-2000 - resulted only in him getting some international legitimacy for himself and Fatah, then using it to ignite Second Intifada (2000-2005), which ended with much worse economic conditions for Palestinians, who before that had one of the best standards of living in Arab world due to trade and work in Israel or working for Israeli companies in the WB and Gaza. In economic terms, Israelis didn't mind having a "trade deficit" with Palestinians.

Leaderships of Palestinians have had many opportunities (at least, four) to have their own independent state(s), but rejected them to either join other Arab countries waging wars against Israel, or using Intifadas and terrorism to achieve 'Palestine' free of Jews, "from the River to the Sea."

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