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Thursday, February 27, 2025

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky will meet US President Donald Trump in Washington on Friday to sign an agreement on sharing his country's mineral resources, Trump has said.

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An agreement to agree. Basically meaningless, other than giving Trump something to crow about to the MAGAts.

Zelenskyy knows exactly the type of man Trump is.

#1 | Posted by censored at 2025-02-27 01:49 PM | Reply

An Agreement to Agree to Concepts of a Plan.

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-02-27 01:53 PM | Reply

Yeah... signing a 'framework' of a deal with Hair Fuehrer is like signing a blank piece of paper as far as he is concerned.

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2025-02-27 02:38 PM | Reply

Trump: "Did I say that?".

www.youtube.com

48 secs

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2025-02-27 04:46 PM | Reply

------- disgraceful.

#5 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-02-27 05:46 PM | Reply

I'm surprised Zelensky is walking in into the lion's den. Bad idea.

Knowing how deceitful Trump is, I have my doubts about the tenuous "rich earth" story ~~ plus the fact that Trump is taking Putin's "word" that Russia won't continue to attack Ukraine. Putin's "word" means the same thing as Trump's "word." NOTHING, as both of them has proven in the past.

For days Trump has been pushing the false idea that Zelensky started the war. Using that as an excuse, Trump could just as likely have Zelensky arrested as a "war criminal" and held in prison for extradition to Russia.

What's to stop him?

#6 | Posted by Twinpac at 2025-02-28 03:44 AM | Reply

My perspective is that Z is much smarter than nearly everyone gives him credit. I think he will do OK handling a mentally ill narcissist who cannot recognize the mistakes he makes and his poor negotiation skills...

#7 | Posted by catdog at 2025-02-28 09:51 AM | Reply

Lil Zski looks so spiffy all dressed up in his new shirt we bought him, sitting in Macron's highchair.
Really, though, Docusign could have saved us some money instead of buying him a plane ticket and hotel room.

#8 | Posted by itchypossum at 2025-02-28 01:06 PM | Reply

Well that didn't go well. Back to square 1 where Biden left it.

#9 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-02-28 01:42 PM | Reply

My perspective is that Z is much smarter than nearly everyone gives him credit. I think he will do OK handling a mentally ill narcissist who cannot recognize the mistakes he makes and his poor negotiation skills...

#7 | Posted by catdog at 2025-02-28 09:51 AM | Reply | Flag:
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The little idiot will do really well when Trump turns off the spigot. Then he can run to Europe for help and they will do what they have been doing which is not that much.

#10 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-02-28 01:47 PM | Reply

#10

Might as well have pulled the trigger on any Ukrainians who die after this thorough -------- provided by his Cult Leader.

But hey, Donnie's Boss Vlad is thrilled, so so is Fishpus.

#11 | Posted by Corky at 2025-02-28 01:52 PM | Reply

Looks like the Trump/Zelensky press conference was called off, and was the signing of the agreement.

Zelenskyy's meeting with Trump and Vance unravels into an extraordinary clash
www.nbcnews.com

... A White House meeting that was intended to kick off negotiations on a deal over Ukraine's rare earth minerals devolved Friday afternoon into a remarkable confrontation, with President Donald Trump and Vice President JD Vance chastising Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and telling him he wasn't grateful enough to the United States.

"He disrespected the United States of America in its cherished Oval Office," Trump said in a post on his Truth Social website after the meeting ended. "He can come back when he is ready for Peace." ...


Pres Zelensky was ready for peace.

What he was not ready for was a Trump-forced surrender on Pres Putin's terms.


#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-28 02:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Pres Zelensky was ready for peace.

Everyone is ready for peace on their terms.

What he was not ready for was a Trump-forced surrender on Pres Putin's terms.

Well he can pay for it. Reading the transcripts it seems Z was trying to dictate different terms in front of the media.

TruthNLies just stated diplomatic terms should be chosen carefully and there Z ------- it up.

Too bad. So sad for the boys in Ukraine. Must be frustrating for them without being able to vote for something different.

#13 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-28 02:30 PM | Reply

"disrespected"

This is what those Scary Black Thugs and ---------ers say, when they shoot someone for looking at them funny.

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-02-28 02:34 PM | Reply

@13 ... Reading the transcripts it seems Z was trying to dictate different terms in front of the media. ...

Exactly.

Pres Zelensky was ready for peace.

What he was not ready for was a Trump-forced surrender on Pres Putin's terms.

The ~discussion~ illustrates the extent of Pres Putin's control over Pres Trump, as shown in the recent UN vote.


#15 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-28 02:35 PM | Reply

#13

What a pathetic little liar this Cultist is.

Zelensky merely asked for what he had said he would ask for: some kind of security agreement with the US in case Putin does what he has done before, which is to break a Cease Fire Agreement he just signed.

This was a staged set up with Shady JD there to provide the two on one to try to force Zelensky to accept Vlad's word on a Cease Fire.

#16 | Posted by Corky at 2025-02-28 02:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Zelensky merely asked for what he had said he would ask for:

Diplomacy is really simple, "Compliment in public, criticize in private"

Zelensky tried to use the media to get what he wanted, unfortunately both Trump and Vance are skilled negotiators, not really politicians.

Z blew it big time.

This was a staged set up with Shady JD

Zelensky asked a gotcha question, it didn't have be this way.

#17 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-28 02:41 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Zelensky tried to use the media to get what he wanted, unfortunately both Trump and Vance are skilled negotiators, not really politicians.

The demented------------ is skilled at negotiating bankruptcies.

#18 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-02-28 02:42 PM | Reply

Zelenskyy thanks America for support
www.dw.com

...Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy thanked America after leaving the White House early following failed talks with US President Donald Trump.

"Thank you America, thank you for your support, thank you for this visit. Thank you, US President, Congress, and the American people.

Ukraine needs just and lasting peace, and we are working exactly for that," he wrote on X. ...



#19 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-28 02:42 PM | Reply

#17 Just go away. You're not an honest broker. Just sayin

#20 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-02-28 02:44 PM | Reply

#17

Ah... perhaps you are just stupid and it sounds like lies.

Zelensky spent the last week saying publicly that he would ask for the same security agreement he asked for.

You are apparently just too ignorant to know this.

#21 | Posted by Corky at 2025-02-28 02:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The ~discussion~ illustrates the extent of Pres Putin's control over Pres Trump, as shown in the recent UN vote.

LOL sure, Zelensky blamed Trump for Crimea. That's where this fell apart.

#22 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-28 02:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Zelensky spent the last week saying publicly that he would ask for the same security agreement he asked for.

Well he changed his mind apparently.

#23 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-28 02:52 PM | Reply

Onetinyorc, your child-raping idol is a Russian stooge.

#24 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-02-28 02:52 PM | Reply

"elensky tried to use the media to get what he wanted, unfortunately both Trump and Vance are skilled negotiators, not really politicians."

Isn't a failed negotiation a sign that they are not skilled negotiators?

#25 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-02-28 02:52 PM | Reply

Zelenskyy has two options.

Hand the country over to Russia.

Or.

Hand the country over to America.

Ukraine is screwed either way.

Best of luck.

#26 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-02-28 02:55 PM | Reply

#23

1Numbnut, you ignorant ----... he asked for what he said he would ask for, and Tag Team Trump knew that. They obviously let him come in the Oval Office and ask... then used that to condemn him for asking in the Oval Office.

You really can't be this stupid a bot.

#27 | Posted by Corky at 2025-02-28 02:55 PM | Reply

"Zelensky tried to use the media to get what he wanted"

Was the media a newspaper?
Did Zelensky roll up the newspaper and swat Trump on the nose with it, for messing in his diaper?

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-02-28 03:00 PM | Reply

@#26 ... Zelenskyy has two options. ...

Doing the latter under Pres Trump is essentially the same as doing the former.

... Ukraine is screwed either way. ...

Yup.

It looks increasingly obvious that Pres Trump is doing Pres Putin's bidding on Ukraine, essentially forcing Ukraine to surrender to Pres Putin and disappear as a sovereign country.

#29 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-28 03:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump and Vance wanted to humiliate Zelensky and make him kiss their ass in front of the cameras. Not content with destroying our economy and treating federal employees like they were radioactive, they are also hell-bent on destroying any goodwill we had around the world. What an embarrassment to the United States.

#30 | Posted by cbob at 2025-02-28 03:04 PM | Reply

Looks like this didn't go well...

#31 | Posted by YAV at 2025-02-28 03:10 PM | Reply

Trump/Vance are the biggest pieces of shht I have every seen. Total scum. Utterly destroying our nation.

#32 | Posted by YAV at 2025-02-28 03:11 PM | Reply

"any goodwill we had around the world" is only due to giving away free money. Stop paying the bums and see how fast the goodwill departs. Truth is the rest of the world despises Americans. Screw them, we have our oceans and our weapons, we shouldn't have to buy favors from anyone. The only reason we do that in the first place is because most of our pols while giving away our money use their network of shady agencies and NGOs to skim wealth for themselves.

#33 | Posted by itchypossum at 2025-02-28 03:18 PM | Reply

@#29 ... It looks increasingly obvious that Pres Trump is doing Pres Putin's bidding on Ukraine ...

And that makes me wonder ...

Was this meeting little more than a planned set-up by Pres Trump to try to make Pres Zelenskyy look bad?

#34 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-28 03:18 PM | Reply

"He can come back when he is ready for Peace." ...

What Trump really means is when he's ready to grovel.

#35 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-02-28 03:22 PM | Reply

insert image of fat boomer at ATM, US flag over him, flanked by Thai hookers one with Ukraine flag the other with star-of-Remphan flag.

#36 | Posted by itchypossum at 2025-02-28 03:23 PM | Reply

Truth is the rest of the world despises Americans. Screw them,

You really should get out of your hovel more often.

#37 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-02-28 04:17 PM | Reply

No one hates America as much as Deplorable Trumping MAGAts.

#38 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-02-28 04:18 PM | Reply

"Truth is the rest of the world despises Americans."

That explains all the illegal immigrant caravans.

#39 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-02-28 04:22 PM | Reply

It was pure -mafia protection racket- tactics. With no substantial guarantees, Trump wanted Zelenskyy to kiss the ring, give up the minerals, and then just shut up.

#40 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2025-02-28 05:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump admitted they did it for the cameras:

Jim Wright on FB:

Elect a contemptable second rate Realty TV star, get contemptable second rate Realty TV government.

And that's exactly what this was, the standard issue rotten disgusting Reality TV ambush.

This isn't statesmanship. This isn't diplomacy. This isn't how a president should behave. This isn't how we should treat our allies.

This is goddamn disgraceful. It's embarrassing. It's bullying. It's punching down. It's second rate Reality TV, manufactured drama and conflict, trolling for clicks, likes, and ------ comments from the worst people on the internet.

That's all it is.

America should be ashamed.

#41 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-02-28 05:24 PM | Reply

"Trump admitted they did it for the cameras"

And Vance admitted he made up Haitians eating cats in Springfield for the cameras.

It's all just make believe.

#42 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-02-28 05:35 PM | Reply

Now I wonder how long it will be until Elmo shuts off Ukraine access to Starlink.

#43 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2025-02-28 05:39 PM | Reply

China will save the Ukraine.

They are, after all, assuming the role of global leadership in the absence of American leadership.

Your grandkids better start learning Chinese.

#44 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-02-28 05:46 PM | Reply

"Your grandkids better start learning Chinese."

Republicans look forward to the day we roll tanks on peaceful protesters.
Like China did in Tiananmen Square.

#45 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-02-28 05:55 PM | Reply

Trump: "This is going to be great TV, I will say that."

I think Trump thinks it made him and Vance and the US look strong and powerful, but really it made them look like a bunch of bullies who needed to gang up on one guy in order to dominate him and make him shut up.

#46 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-02-28 06:10 PM | Reply

@#42 ... It's all just make believe. ...

Yet MAGA voters seem to eat this stuff up and support the Trump MAGA cult even more strongly.

My first question is ... why?


#47 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-28 06:56 PM | Reply

@#47

Maybe this is an explanation ...

Go West - We Close Our Eyes (1985)
www.youtube.com

Lyrics excerpt ...

genius.com

...
[Verse 1]
Inside, everyone hides one desire
Outside, no one would know
Danger, close to the edge of the knife
Safer not to let go
And while we miss chances
You can almost hear time slipping away

[Chorus]
We close our eyes, we never lose a game
Imagination never lets us take the blame
We close our eyes to see the final frame
We close our eyes to time slipping away
...



#48 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-28 07:02 PM | Reply

I'm not too sympathetic to Ukraine in general. As most here know.

Trump and Vance were total -------- and the whole meeting was a Gotcha type setup. Almost "Jerry Springer" like.

Zelinsky went up in my estimate 1000 percent. He handled himself with Honor.

Signing over half a trillion dollars in mineral rights and giving up
Their economic viability, and control of their own Sovereignty to Trump for Nothing in return but mealy mouthed platitudes and direct insults was Too much for anyone to agree to.

Zelinsky is the real deal. I Underestimated him. He showed reasoned and justified Anger. I'm ashamed by Trump's sick Contempt for law and fair dealing.


#49 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-03-01 09:38 AM | Reply

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