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In a striking move that ends a nearly four-decades-old relationship between the federal government and the Episcopal Church, the denomination announced on Monday that it is terminating its partnership with the government to resettle refugees, citing moral opposition to resettling white Afrikaners from South Africa who have been classified as refugees by President Trump's administration.

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The Episcopal Church is ending its refugee resettlement partnership with the federal government over the Trump administration's "preferential treatment" of white South Africans.

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"In light of our church's steadfast commitment to racial justice and reconciliation and our historic ties with the Anglican Church of Southern Africa, we are not able to take this step," Rowe wrote.

"Accordingly, we have determined that, by the end of the federal fiscal year, we will conclude our refugee resettlement grant agreements with the U.S. federal government."

Rowe stressed that while Episcopal Migration Ministries will seek to "wind down all federally funded services by the end of the federal fiscal year in September," the denomination will continue to support immigrants and refugees in other ways, such as offering aid to refugees who have already been resettled.

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"What's, 'moral reasons' mean? They don't like their cut? I have ALL the cards!". - Don Old Drumpf

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-12 05:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

But it's GEnoCIDe!?!@?!?!

You know it's true because I shouted it and shut down a public highway.

But seriously, what is supposed to happen with these people? Clearly they aren't wanted in South Africa. So push them into the sea? Like the Palestinians want to do to the Jews?

#2 | Posted by censored at 2025-05-12 06:48 PM | Reply

They could be held responsible for producing Herr Musk... that would be fun.

"The stated reasons for [Trump's actions] are claims of victimisation, violence and hateful rhetoric against white people in South Africa along with legislation providing for the expropriation of land without compensation," read the letter from white South African religious leaders, which included among its four authors an Anglican priest.

"As white South Africans in active leadership within the Christian community, representing diverse political and theological perspectives, we unanimously reject these claims."

In addition to ties with Tutu, the Episcopal Church has a long history of advocating against apartheid in South Africa. It first began altering its financial holdings in the region in 1966, and by the mid-1980s, the church voted to divest from companies doing business in South Africa."

much more at the thread link

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-12 07:10 PM | Reply

"Rowe noted his announcement comes as the Trump administration has otherwise all but frozen the refugee program, with Afrikaners among the few " and possibly only " people granted entry as refugees since January.

Shortly after he was sworn in, Trump signed an executive order that essentially halted the refugee program and stopped payments to organizations that assist with refugee resettlement " including, according to one group, payments for work already performed."

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"Trump freeze on resettlement funding leaves new refugees scrambling to adjust in U.S.

That change has left refugees " including Christians fleeing religious persecution " without a clear path forward and has forced the 10 refugee resettlement groups, seven of which are faith based, to lay off scores of workers while still trying to support refugees who had recently arrived.

Four of the faith groups have since filed two separate lawsuits, one of which recently resulted in a ruling that should have restarted the program. However, refugee groups have accused the government of "delaying compliance" with the court order."

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-12 07:14 PM | Reply

In addition to ties with Tutu, the Episcopal Church has a long history of advocating against apartheid in South Africa.

Thats fine, but apartheid is over.

Now they are chanting "Kill the white farmer" in stadiums.
x.com

Glad I am not a white person, you all are going to get ------ up shortly

#5 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-05-12 10:20 PM | Reply

- apartheid is over.

www.reuters.com

Wrong, as ever.

#6 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-12 10:35 PM | Reply

@#6 ... Wrong, as ever. ...

Yeah, that current alias seems to proffer absurdity so frequently, oh so frequently.


#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-12 11:38 PM | Reply

Leftists pretend they are righteous when the reality is they are obsessed with creating hate and dividing society into separate factions that they will control and harm just like every other authoritarian.

All such societal creations promoted as "special" or protected by political ideologues and certain identities need to be disbanded as a national threat. No more of this "I'm special" propaganda that gets demographic flags and celebration.

#8 | Posted by Robson at 2025-05-13 05:01 PM | Reply

This is straightforward bias. Any "Church" that plays favorites in society using, ethnicity, politics, race, geography etc is not a church and should get no special treatment including tax treatment.

#9 | Posted by Robson at 2025-05-13 05:15 PM | Reply

#9

Not a white guy in Mom's Basement. In a straight jacket.

#10 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-13 05:24 PM | Reply

A new apartheid has risen

"We have not called for killing off the whites FOR NOW" !!!
~ EFF leader in South Africa

#11 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-05-13 05:34 PM | Reply

You can't read Corky??

Thirty years after the end of apartheid, equality eludes South Africa

Just because there is no equality doesn't mean there is apartheid.

Unless the US is an apartheid country because Whites sure aren't equal to us Asians!

#12 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-05-13 05:36 PM | Reply


Yeah, that current alias seems to proffer absurdity so frequently, oh so frequently.

Oh look Gaslighter can't read either.

#13 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-05-13 05:37 PM | Reply

- because there is no equality doesn't mean there is apartheid.

"The literature shows that since the end of apartheid racial inequality has declined somewhat, but increases in inequality within race have more than offset this. Despite momentous political change and formal legal equality, economic equality remains elusive for most South Africans."

compass.onlinelibrary.wiley.com

You should really consider hitting the Upgrade Now option on your bot sw.

#14 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-13 06:39 PM | Reply

#17

Racist much? Or more the misogynistic jingoist Chauvinist type?

#18 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-13 09:15 PM | Reply

Your racist gibberish is ignorant and marked Offensive. Always has been.

#22 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-13 10:25 PM | Reply

" It's genetic"

Riiiiiight.

Now let's have others author the tests, shall we?

Next up: questions on the differences between Gullah and Geechee, and a section on rap stars and their lyrics.

If you do poorly, can we call you ignorant?

#23 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-05-13 10:36 PM | Reply

" All the statistical data confirm it."

As long as you get to define the parameters, amirite?

#24 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-05-13 10:38 PM | Reply

- literal, undeniable, and open racial oppression

Read the quote in #3 as many times as it takes you to grok it. Odds are that's at least a double digit sum.

But hey, racist sockpuppets are cowards and fools to start with, so nothing new here.

#29 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-14 08:27 AM | Reply

Good job jannies! Now cancel the FBI.

#30 | Posted by itchyp at 2025-05-14 04:18 PM | Reply

Good job jannies! Now cancel the FBI.

#30 | Posted by itchyp

Just the ones who prosecuted trump's crimes right? Not the ones who forced james comey to reveal another fake investigation into hillary clinton right before the 2016 election rght?

#31 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-05-14 04:40 PM | Reply

Leftists pretend they are righteous when the reality is they are obsessed with creating hate and dividing society into separate factions that they will control and harm just like every other authoritarian.

All such societal creations promoted as "special" or protected by political ideologues and certain identities need to be disbanded as a national threat. No more of this "I'm special" propaganda that gets demographic flags and celebration.

#8 | Posted by Robson

Trump 101 - accuse your opponent of your own crimes.

If certain identities attempted to overthrow an election, do they need to be disbanded?

#32 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-05-14 04:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If certain identities attempted to overthrow an election, do they need to be disbanded?

#32 | Posted by SpeakSoftly

Gee I dunno... What do the voters think, about these certain parties?
Is we still democracies? Let us to vote on it!

#33 | Posted by itchyp at 2025-05-14 05:10 PM | Reply

Leftists pretend they are righteous when the reality is they are obsessed with creating hate and dividing society into separate factions that they will control and harm just like every other authoritarian.

All such societal creations promoted as "special" or protected by political ideologues and certain identities need to be disbanded as a national threat. No more of this "I'm special" propaganda that gets demographic flags and celebration.

#8 | Posted by Robson *BUMPittybump

#34 | Posted by itchyp at 2025-05-14 05:12 PM | Reply

#32 | Posted by SpeakSoftly

BTW, how does one "disbanded" an " identities"?
psst... your brown shirt is showing.

#35 | Posted by itchyp at 2025-05-14 05:14 PM | Reply

SockPuppet *itchPedo agrees with AI Bot Robson?

Too bad neither of them can explain what AI Bot Robson means or how it relates to the topic of this thread.

Especially since what AI Bot Robson wrote is the basic description of conservatives.

#36 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-05-14 05:17 PM | Reply

People who think that we have Kings, and the Rule of Law is at the whim of whatever a recent vote seems to indicate.

Politicians get to help make Laws, they don't get to do whatever they want because some highly propagandized lies got them into office.

#37 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-14 05:18 PM | Reply

Any "Church" that plays favorites in society using, ethnicity, politics, race, geography etc is not a church and should get no special treatment including tax treatment.
#9 | POSTED BY AI BOT ROBSON

Are you truly this ignorant?

Conservative churches preach favoritism and hate when discussing ethnicity, politics, race, geography ...

#38 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-05-14 05:21 PM | Reply

Corky's super cute when his cheeks get red. Boing!

#39 | Posted by itchyp at 2025-05-14 05:22 PM | Reply

Conservative churches preach favoritism and hate when discussing ethnicity, politics, race, geography ...

#38 | Posted by ClownShack

Yeah, NO

#40 | Posted by itchyp at 2025-05-14 05:23 PM | Reply

*itchPedo has nothing to offer other than lame trolling.

Can't expect much from the mentally disabled Deplorable Trumping MAGAt.

#41 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-05-14 05:24 PM | Reply

Gee I dunno... What do the voters think, about these certain parties?
Is we still democracies? Let us to vote on it!

#33 | Posted by itchyp

Are you talking about the voters who were intentionally lied to by fake news organizations who paid out nearly a billion dollars for lying about imaginary election fraud?

The delusional opinions of those gullible chumps should take precedence over the law?

#42 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-05-14 05:25 PM | Reply

What do republican voters think?

If they vote for who they're told, Elon Musk will pay them.

#43 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-05-14 05:29 PM | Reply

#39

You aren't really technically required to type here when you don't have anything to say.

But, it's OK because when you do, it just proves that you don't have anything at all.

#44 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-14 05:47 PM | Reply

Conservative churches preach favoritism and hate when discussing ethnicity, politics, race, geography ...

#38 | Posted by ClownShack

I challenge you to show me a single example of a "Conservative churches" that doesn't support the opposite races.
Conservative churches make big money ushering in all ethnicity, politics, race, geography they do it as much as they are able because they get paid by our taxes per head, you know, like all "human traffickers"

#45 | Posted by itchyp at 2025-05-14 05:50 PM | Reply

#44 | Posted by Corky

OIC, thx for the demonstration. Meow!

#46 | Posted by itchyp at 2025-05-14 05:52 PM | Reply

The SockPuppet challenge?

I can't help you see what you choose to ignore.

You're not here to do anything more than troll.

#47 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-05-14 05:54 PM | Reply

I challenge you to show me a single example of a "Conservative churches" that doesn't support the opposite races.
Conservative churches make big money ushering in all ethnicity, politics, race, geography they do it as much as they are able because they get paid by our taxes per head, you know, like all "human traffickers"

#45 | Posted by itchyp

This MFer just said that there's an OPPOSITE RACE to conservative christians.

I'm impressed he revealed so much about himself on one short sentence.

#48 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-05-14 06:03 PM | Reply

He's not too smart.

His best role in the DR is "punching bag".

#49 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-05-14 06:24 PM | Reply

OPPOSITE RACE
LOL I thought you all'd like that

#50 | Posted by itchyp at 2025-05-14 07:14 PM | Reply

Anyway, where's that example? Of a "Conservative churches" what's ray ciss?

#51 | Posted by itchyp at 2025-05-14 07:16 PM | Reply

Of a "Conservative churches" what's ray ciss?

Pretty much all of them.
Almost all churches are segregated.

Racial segregation of churches in the United States is a pattern of Christian churches maintaining segregated congregations based on race. As of 2001, as many as 87% of Christian churches in the United States were completely made up of only white or African-American parishioners.[1]
en.m.wikipedia.org

#52 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-14 07:18 PM | Reply

I'm pretty sure someone who uses terms like "opposite races" doesn't believe there's racism, because it's so commonplace for you.

Like breathing the air.

#53 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-05-14 07:19 PM | Reply

"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant. It is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are."

- Mewtwo

#54 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-05-14 07:21 PM | Reply

His best role in the DR is "punching bag".

#49 | Posted by ClownShack

Stand clear!
Take that there sexshul harrassment manual an hit me in mah groin!
Faster!

www.youtube.com

#55 | Posted by itchyp at 2025-05-14 07:25 PM | Reply

@#48 ... I'm impressed he revealed so much about himself on one short sentence. ...

Yup.

That current alias took the approach of making an assertion and then asking others to prove the statement wrong, instead of showing how the assertion may be correct.

A typical tactic by those who hold a weak hand in a discussion.


#56 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-14 07:27 PM | Reply

"we will conclude our refugee resettlement grant agreements with the U.S. federal government."

Why isn't DOGE and Trump crowing about saving the taxpayers money...

This also shows how the Church is racist against Whites and Republicans.

Why aren't they making hay?

#57 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-14 07:33 PM | Reply

87% of Christian churches in the United States were completely made up of only white or African-American
#52 | Posted by sealion2

This means they're segregated, not racist. Did you notice also the "made up of only white or African-American"? Are you calling the AA churches racist too? Because Blacks can't be raycist, right.

Do you suggest that white churches don't help resettlement of nonwhites? Or what exactly did Clowns mean by his imaginary "Conservative churches" that " preach favoritism" and "hate when discussing ethnicity, politics, race, geography"
(IRT #38)

I submit that Clowns was talking out his *ss, and sealion2 refuses to actually understand what I or he himself is saying.

#58 | Posted by itchyp at 2025-05-14 07:41 PM | Reply

Have fun with it fellas, I am called to taco wednesday! Ohboyohboyohboy...

#59 | Posted by itchyp at 2025-05-14 07:45 PM | Reply

@#57 ... Why isn't DOGE and Trump crowing about saving the taxpayers money...

This also shows how the Church is racist against Whites and Republicans. ...

Good point.

#60 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-14 07:52 PM | Reply

White refugees need not apply.

#61 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-05-15 12:22 AM | Reply

Terrorist Nazis need not apply, dumbass.

#62 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-05-15 02:25 AM | Reply

That is the quickest about face on resettling refugees by rich white people since DeSantis sent the migrants to Martha's Vineyard. The rich white liberals there kicked them off the island in under 6 hours and had their housekeepers working the whole next month to disinfect anything they may have touched.

#63 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-05-15 05:05 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Liberals strongly believe in blood libel. These current poor and terrorized refugees facing killing and institutionalized discrimination and NEVER having participated in Apartheid (one could argue it is the generation of their parents that ended it) are now being punished simply due to their ancestors. This church should face a societal shunning and full audit by the Federal government as clearly have an institutionalized racism problem.

#64 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-05-15 05:09 AM | Reply

www.npr.org

This good, detailed NPR article serves as reminder is that the White House is full of Nazi sympathizers and that the Trump Regime's constant claim to be "fighting antisemitism" is a transparent pretext to punish protesters, universities, and other people and entities they hate.

Remember that the next time you come across a news article or a piece of commentary which credulously repeats the claim that the Regime's authoritarian crackdown is somehow being done to "combat antisemitism" or that it in any way constitutes a defense of Jewish people. It shouldn't be hard, as such patently disingenuous statements are published nearly every day.

Trump and many of his senior advisors at best, see Jewish people as mere tools they can use to advance their own agenda. At worst, they view them with hatred and disdain. Their words, their deeds, deeds such as granting political asylum and permanent residency to a man who posted Jews are dangerous' and who shares Holocaust denial content online and their associations make that plain.

Trump just granted asylum to a man who posted Jews are dangerous'

forward.com

#65 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-05-15 08:59 AM | Reply

"#65 | Posted by lee_the_agent"

Hey Lee - why is it that diversity is seen as the liberal goal in every country except for South Africa and Israel? What makes those 2 countries special? If diversity is a strength - why is it that South Africa is cheered on by the liberals when they discriminate against whites and force them to leave land their ancestors have lived on for 400 years so there are only black people living there?

#66 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-05-15 09:09 AM | Reply

Fat refugees.

#67 | Posted by fresno500 at 2025-05-15 09:49 AM | Reply

Antisemitism isn't even a crime!

Why is the White House punishing people over a difference of opinion?

#68 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-15 10:18 AM | Reply

69!!!!!

#69 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-05-15 10:31 AM | Reply

#66

Ask a liberal.

#70 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-05-15 10:32 AM | Reply

"why is it that South Africa is cheered on by the liberals"

The voices in your head seem pretty loud today. Maybe you should up the dosage on your meds.

Liberals "cheer" for things like democratic institutions, the protections afforded to minorities, and the ongoing struggle for social and economic equality.

Not for whatever nonsense the voices in your head said today.

#71 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-05-15 12:03 PM | Reply

There are claims that white South Africans are being targeted, while the government is now led by the Black majority.

If the racial roles were reversed, wouldn't most people likely see it as racism?

#72 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-05-15 02:27 PM | Reply

Separation of Church and State.

If the Episcopal Church doesn't want to help, that's their choice.

Trump doesn't need their blessing to do what he thinks is right.

#73 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-05-15 02:32 PM | Reply

There are claims that white South Africans are being targeted, while the government is now led by the Black majority.
If the racial roles were reversed, wouldn't most people likely see it as racism?
Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-05-15 02:27 PM | Reply

Yawwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnn

#74 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-05-15 02:38 PM | Reply

Laura,

Answer the question instead of acting like a child.

#75 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-05-15 02:39 PM | Reply

What Trump thinks is 'right' is whatever benefits Trump first.

People who don't know that by now are in the Cult.

#76 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-15 02:45 PM | Reply

FYI: www.citizen.co.za

#77 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-05-15 02:47 PM | Reply

"If the racial roles were reversed, wouldn't most people likely see it as racism?"

Are you asking if Apartheid South Africa was racist?

#78 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-15 02:52 PM | Reply

"The stated reasons for [Trump's actions] are claims of victimisation, violence and hateful rhetoric against white people in South Africa along with legislation providing for the expropriation of land without compensation," read the letter from white South African religious leaders, which included among its four authors an Anglican priest.

"As white South Africans in active leadership within the Christian community, representing diverse political and theological perspectives, we unanimously reject these claims."

from the thread link

But Bill knows better.

#79 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-15 02:56 PM | Reply

Corky,

"What Trump thinks is 'right' is whatever benefits Trump first."

I bet the people risking everything to flee South Africa don't see it that way.

They are grateful to be getting out.

As far as they're concerned, they're the ones benefitting.

#80 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-05-15 02:58 PM | Reply

#80

Pretty funny in light of what white Christians in South Africa say about this farce in #79.

#81 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-15 03:04 PM | Reply

Corky,

Sure, some white religious leaders in South Africa disagreed with Trump's take. That's their right.

But the fact remains people are still fleeing. They're not doing that for fun. They're doing it because they don't feel safe.

The danger is real to them.

#82 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-05-15 04:09 PM | Reply

"But the fact remains people are still fleeing. They're not doing that for fun. They're doing it because they don't feel safe.
The danger is real to them."

^
Migrant Caravans are okay when they're White.

#83 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-15 04:13 PM | Reply

Yeah... this country spent the last 100 years making sure that many nations in Central and S America became and stayed Banana Republics led by Authoritrians who crippled economies while violently suppressing their people.

And Trumpers can't understand why these same people want to get away from the monsters we created for them by coming here.

#84 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-15 04:51 PM | Reply

"The danger is real to them."

And not for the folks in say, Venezuela, if they're experiencing the same fears?

#85 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-05-15 06:13 PM | Reply

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