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The Trump administration is set to accept a $400 million luxury 747-8 from the royal family of Qatar -- a lavish "palace in the sky" meant as a temporary Air Force One. But getting it up to presidential security standards could take years and cost hundreds of millions more.

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Qatar's $400M jet for Trump is a gold-plated security nightmare

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-- The Register (@theregister.com) May 13, 2025 at 4:41 PM

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... Trump told reporters it would be "stupid" not to accept Qatar's gesture. The plane is expected to be used as a temporary Air Force One, with ownership transferring to his presidential library foundation after his term -- an highly unusual arrangement already raising legal and ethical questions about accepting such a valuable gift from a foreign power.

Equally alarming, security experts warn that retrofitting a foreign-owned aircraft to meet presidential standards would be massively expensive, time-consuming, and potentially disruptive to the already-behind Boeing replacement program. ...

The current VC-25s aren't just repainted 747s. They're a pair of flying fortresses that must be capable of allowing the president to run the country, survive wartime conditions (even nuclear), and be totally secure from outside influence or intrusion.

While the precise details of the current airframe are a tightly guarded secret, some details are included on government fact sheets or have been revealed in various media reports.

The hull is known to be armored, at least, and the windows are also thicker than you'd find on a normal flight. The government would also need to build in weapons systems, like the chaff rockets used against radar-guided missiles, flares against heat seekers, and AN/ALQ-204 Matador Infrared Countermeasure systems, or similar to try and confuse incoming missiles.

Next up, the engines and electrical systems would have to be replaced. The electronics in the current VC-25s are hardened as much as possible against an electromagnetic pulse that would be generated by a nuclear detonation. There are also claims that the aircraft have extra shielding in the engines to help against missile fragments should a physical attack happen.

Next up are communications. Air Force One has air-to-ground, air-to-air, and satellite comms systems that are thought to be the equal of what's in the White House. There are at least two separate internal phone systems - one open and the other highly secure - that would need to be installed and checked as well.

Then there are incidentals. Contrary to what films will tell you, there is no escape capsule on the current Air Force One, nor a rear parachute ramp, but there is a medical suite with emergency equipment and space for a physician which would already need to be installed, as well as a secured cargo area designed to prevent tampering or unauthorized access.
Internal security could be just as bad - or worse

There's a well-documented history of foreign adversaries embedding surveillance devices into physical infrastructure. ...



#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-14 03:12 PM | Reply

@#1 ... There's a well-documented history of foreign adversaries embedding surveillance devices into physical infrastructure. ...

What was the security when the jet was parked at West Palm Beach airport this past February?

Where is the jet now?

Found this ...

Trump's acceptance of Qatari Jet sparks security, ethics concerns as plane lands in San Antonio
www.kxxv.com

... A luxury jet that President Donald Trump says he will accept this week as a gift from Qatar's ruling family has landed at San Antonio International Airport and could be converted into a temporary Air Force One. ...

So sitting (unsecured?) at a public airport?


#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-14 03:24 PM | Reply

But getting it up to presidential security standards could take years and cost hundreds of millions more.

Why bother? Trump just passes along everything to Putin anyway during their nightly pillow talk.

#3 | Posted by censored at 2025-05-14 03:32 PM | Reply

The Flying Babylon should have tried landing at Newark Intl Airport (EWR).

In reality, the foreign-constructed plane should have landed at a USAF base. Dotard Trumpf is simply a nightmare to both the USSS and US counterintelligence agencies: www.encyclopedia.com

Photos of the garish gilded flying palace here: nypost.com

#4 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-05-14 04:13 PM | Reply

But getting it up to presidential security standards could take years

Why bother? Just park it with his 757 and he can keep using the planes the air force has now. It's not like there is anything wrong with them.

#5 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-05-14 05:06 PM | Reply

They don't have gilded spiral staircases... how can he not have those?

#6 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-14 05:13 PM | Reply

Qatar is showing us how stupid and easy Trumpanzee is to play.

#7 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-05-14 05:46 PM | Reply

Trump has outplayed everybody. He wants Boeing to build a new AF1 and his common sense makes sure every Democrat is seen as a fool. In less than 10 years the Democrat Party will be gone just like the Know Nothing and Whigs.

Every policy they come up with from mandatory costly Start Stop technology in new cars to stupid intersectionality, to putting abortion clinics in cars.

.

#8 | Posted by Robson at 2025-05-14 06:13 PM | Reply

As president he could waive all the upgrade requirements. Musk can fix him up with WiFi for his phone via Starlink. Add some gold leaf trim and that's all he needs.

#9 | Posted by TenMile at 2025-05-14 06:14 PM | Reply

Trump has outplayed everybody.
#8 | POSTED BY AI BOT ROBSON

By accepting a $400 million dollar bribe from Qatar?

Unfortunately the rest of your pointless post doesn't explain how Trump taking a bribe is a good thing for America.

But. I doubt you can explain what you mean.

#10 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-05-14 06:23 PM | Reply

@#8 ... Trump has outplayed everybody. ...

How so?

... He wants Boeing to build a new AF1 ...

A new Air Force 1 (actually, two of them) is (are) on order with Boeing as we speak.

So, what else yer got?


#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-14 06:29 PM | Reply

The most f-d up thing is that this would be perfectly oK if he just ran it through Congress first, like Grant did with the Statue of Liberty. He's got a rubber stamp Congress, he's just too lazy and stupid to do it the legal way. ut why bother when he'll never be held to account.

#12 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2025-05-14 06:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Remember when Israel put exploding pagers into the hands of enemies?

#13 | Posted by Wardog at 2025-05-14 06:55 PM | Reply

"Trump has outplayed everybody."

He has certain played you, Robson.

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-14 06:56 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

Still not too sure what the play was.

Was it accepting a bribe and not giving a shht?

#15 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-05-14 07:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Then there's this ...

Qatari support for Hamas
en.wikipedia.org

... Qatar has been a key financial supporter of the Palestinian militant organization Hamas, transferring more than $1.8 billion to Hamas over the years.[1][2] ...

#16 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-14 08:07 PM | Reply

it's not for trump....and everytime you dopes write that you're gd liars.
but that's never stopped you before...so please KEEP LYING
it worked so well for you last nov.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

PS...still waiting for that call for france to take lady liberty back home.....

#17 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-05-14 09:21 PM | Reply

A new Air Force 1 (actually, two of them) is (are) on order with Boeing as we speak.

Have been for a while, actually. Lewzer made a "deal" with Boeing to lower the cost and that made the whole project a money pit for Boeing.

#18 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-05-14 09:25 PM | Reply

@#17 ... it's not for trump.. ...

Correct, at this point.

If accepted, the jet will not be Pres Trump's property, but the property of the Dept of Defense.

And when (if? but that's a different thread) Pres Trump leaves office, the DoD will then give the jet to the Pres Trump Presidential Library. At which point it effectively becomes the future fmr Pres Trump's property for use as he wants, with donations to that library paying for the fuel and maintenance it requires.


So, yeah, in the end, it is for Pres trump.



#19 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-14 09:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

@17

Now, also please comment upon the cost to American taxpayers to bring the jet donated to the DoD, in Pres Trump's name, up to the standards required for the security of the President of the United States.

thx.

#20 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-14 09:38 PM | Reply

but the property of the Dept of Defense.

That way the taxpayers can cover the upkeep costs.

#21 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-05-14 09:39 PM | Reply

@#18 ... made a "deal" with Boeing to lower the cost and that made the whole project a money pit for Boeing. ...

Yeah.

And I am sure that Boeing's recent issues also have thrown some sand into the gears ...


But my point still holds ...

Boeing has an order for two new Air Force 1 jets.


#22 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-14 09:41 PM | Reply

Boeing has an order for two new Air Force 1 jets.

Yep. Would be interesting to see what level of completion they are at. They would be the only 2 747s still in production.

#23 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-05-14 09:49 PM | Reply

Would be interesting to see what level of completion they are at

Looks like the first delivery is for 2027 and the second the next year, so one can assume the airframes are complete.

#24 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-05-14 10:20 PM | Reply

...france to take lady liberty back home.....
#17 | Posted by shrimptacodan

Except Grant ran it through congress first, making it legal. King Dotard XIV is too lazy and corrupt to do things the legal way.

#25 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2025-05-14 10:32 PM | Reply

@#24 ... Looks like the first delivery is for 2027 and the second the next year, so one can assume the airframes are complete. ...

Now take a step back and look at how long (and the cost!) it may take to tear apart and rebuild that Qatar gift jet to assure it is secure for the President of the United States to use.


It is not looking like "free" is really "free."


#26 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-15 02:28 AM | Reply

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