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Sunday, May 18, 2025

Pope Leo XIV spurned JD Vance on Sunday, offering him a quick greeting after his inaugural mass while holding extensive private meetings with other world leaders.

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VP Vance makes his second trip to the Vatican in less than a month.

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I gotta say, this Pope gets the basics of his religion... love your neighbor as yourself.

In which all peoples and nations are neighbors.

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-18 01:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Good for the Bishop of Rome to not waste time with the coach-humper when there are adults in the room he could be conferring with.

The hardworking American taxpayer has been funding JD and Usha's vacations: Italy twice, Greenland (if you want to count that), India, ski trip to Vermont, and Israel next week. Ain't life grand? At least Usha won't get humiliated in Jerusalem.

#2 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-05-18 01:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#2: Good for the Bishop of Rome to not waste time with the coach couch-humper when there are adults in the room Pope Leo XIV could be conferring with.

#3 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-05-18 01:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Snubbed Vance as he should have. Vance's views are the antithesis of everything Christ taught.

#4 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-05-18 04:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

VD Prance is a Pope killer

#5 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-05-18 04:33 PM | Reply

JV is no more a Catholic than his wife. For him it's a form of cosplay. His conversion' was a cynical political move. His words and actions while in public office demonstrate the depth of his faith, and it's not even skin deep ...

#6 | Posted by catdog at 2025-05-18 05:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

He remembered the last Pope's fate after meeting with Vance.

#7 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-05-18 06:11 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

Trump was going to go but then he heard it might rain.

#8 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-05-18 06:17 PM | Reply

@#4 ... Snubbed Vance as he should have. Vance's views are the antithesis of everything Christ taught. ...

Looks that way.

More from the cited article ...

... The first American pope shook Vance's hand during a brief, 17-second exchange during the procession line after the mass.

Leo met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and Peruvian President Dina Ercilia Boluarte Zegarra on Sunday after celebrating his inaugural Mass, which included world leaders from Canada, Italy, Germany, and other European Union officials in the audience.

The snub comes after the pope subtly criticized Vance and the Trump administration during his sermon, which has expelled and terrorized migrants and prompted seizing foreign land and resources, including Greenland. ...



#9 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-18 06:26 PM | Reply

I wonder how many people have now had the honor and the privilege of snubbing Shady JD?

Also, I bet there's people who would pay to. Maybe I'll start a new business... 100k a Pop, whada ya say?

#10 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-18 07:18 PM | Reply

Corky,

"I gotta say, this Pope gets the basics of his religion"

And he said marriage is only between a man and a woman.

I agree...he gets the basics.

#11 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-05-18 07:22 PM | Reply

Corky,

"I gotta say, this Pope gets the basics of his religion"

He's also anti-abortion.

Do you still think he gets the basics?

#12 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-05-18 07:35 PM | Reply

Corky,
"I gotta say, this Pope gets the basics of his religion"
And he said marriage is only between a man and a woman.
I agree...he gets the basics.

Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-05-18 07:22 PM | Reply

He's free to believe that. While I am free to disagree.

#13 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-05-18 07:40 PM | Reply

Yes, Bill. Abortion isn't the Basics. That would be faith, hope, and love.

Abortion is something that the Hebrew priests provided for in teas for when necessary.

#14 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-18 07:45 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Corky,

The legal recognition of gay marriage within secular culture lies outside the Pope's authority. Civil governments operate independently of church doctrine, and while his opinion is grounded in religious conviction, it carries no legal weight.

Still, he likely sees this cultural shift not as progress, but as a sign of moral decline and an unraveling of traditional values that once defined human dignity and social cohesion.

But really...what does he know?

He doesn't have sex.

#15 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-05-18 07:51 PM | Reply

Corky,

He thinks killing the unborn is sin.

But he also believes using contraceptives is, too.

But really...what does he know?

He thinks preventing pregnancy is wrong and so is ending one after it begins.

It's hard to take moral advice on sex and reproduction from someone who's never experienced either.

#16 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-05-18 07:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

While the modern concept and legal recognition of gay marriage are relatively recent, the history of same-sex unions and relationships spans centuries across various cultures.
Historical Instances of Same-Sex Unions:
* Ancient Rome: Several Roman emperors reportedly entered into same-sex unions. Nero is said to have married two men on separate occasions, once taking the role of the bride and once the groom. Emperor Elagabalus also reportedly married two men. These unions, while documented, did not have legal provisions under Roman law and were later banned in the Roman Empire.
* Ancient Mesopotamia: The Almanac of Incantations, an ancient text, contains prayers that favored same-sex unions similarly to heterosexual unions.
* Ancient China: During the Zhou Dynasty, stories like that of Pan Zhang and Wang Zhongxian suggest domestic partnerships between men that were viewed by the community similarly to heterosexual marriages, though without formal religious ceremonies.
* Medieval Europe: The practice of "embrotherment" (affrrement) in late medieval France allowed unrelated adult males to enter legal contracts to live together and share resources. While not explicitly about sexual relationships due to the Church's stance, these unions were considered binding. Some scholars also argue that the Roman Catholic Church may have recognized same-sex unions in medieval Europe through the ritual of adelphopoiesis (brother-making), though this interpretation is debated.
* Early Modern Period:
* In 1590, the Boxer Codex recorded same-sex marriage as a normal occurrence among the indigenous population of the Philippines.
* In 1781, in Norway, Jens Andersson, who identified as male, was imprisoned for marrying Anne Kristine Mortensdotter in a Lutheran church.
* In 1834, Anne Lister, often called "the first modern lesbian," married Ann Walker in England, though this union was not legally recognized at the time.
* Africa: In pre-colonial Africa, some societies allowed women to marry other women, particularly widows who did not wish to remarry men.
* Native American Cultures: Some Native American tribes recognized "two-spirit" individuals, who were often seen as having both male and female spirits. In some tribes, these individuals were permitted to marry people of the same biological sex.
Modern Legalization of Same-Sex Marriage:
* The Netherlands became the first country in the world to legalize same-sex marriage nationwide in 2001.
* In the United States, the first legal same-sex marriage ceremony occurred in 2004 in San Francisco, although these licenses were later voided.
* Massachusetts became the first U.S. state to legalize same-sex marriage on May 17, 2004, following a ruling by the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court.
* On June 26, 2015, the U.S. Supreme Court ruling in Obergefell v. Hodges legalized same-sex marriage nationwide, recognizing the right to marry as guaranteed by the Fourteenth Amendment.
Therefore, while the formal legal recognition of gay marriage is a recent development in many parts of the world, historical records and anthropological studies indicate various forms of same-sex unions and relationships existed in different cultures throughout history. These unions often carried social significance and, in some cases, were formalized through rituals or societal acceptance, although they may not have always been considered "marriage" in the same way we understand it today.

#17 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-05-18 07:59 PM | Reply

Hey...I'm Protestant.

He's just another man.

#18 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-05-18 08:00 PM | Reply

So... you're saying that he snubs Shady JD, the VP who compared Trump to Hitler... AND he snubs abortion. That's fair.

#19 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-18 08:01 PM | Reply

Laura,

Hey...whatever...just keep it out the Church and I'm fine.

#20 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-05-18 08:03 PM | Reply

Hey...I'm Protestant.
He's just another man.

Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-05-18 08:00 PM | Reply

He's the head of the Catholic Church and the Head of State of the smallest country in the world. Vatican City.

#21 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-05-18 08:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" It's hard to take moral advice on sex and reproduction from someone who's never experienced either."

Or, as the locals put it:

You no a-playin' da game, you no make-a da rules.

#22 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-05-18 08:05 PM | Reply

Laura,
Hey...whatever...just keep it out the Church and I'm fine.

Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-05-18 08:03 PM | Reply

As long as they don't take government money I'm fine with that. The moment that they take government money then it must be allowed in that church.

#23 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-05-18 08:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Corky,

Finding rhyme or reason mixing religion and politics will make you crazy.

#24 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-05-18 08:07 PM | Reply

Finding rhyme or reason mixing religion and politics will make you crazy.

Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-05-18 08:07 PM | Reply

Then why did you buy a Bible that did just that??

#25 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-05-18 08:08 PM | Reply

#24

Say you've got nothing without saying you've got nothing. Good job!

#26 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-18 08:14 PM | Reply

The guy that bought a bible from a politician says don't mix religion and politics, folks!

Physician Heal Thyself.

#27 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-05-18 08:18 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

@#20 ... just keep it out the Church and I'm fine. ...

Yeah.

Now comment upon the political tilt (I'm being kind) of the Christians.

"Keep it out of the Church?"

So, your current alias might agree that the tax-exempt status of many Christian congregations should be revoked for the politically-oriented sermons of their Leader?


#28 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-18 08:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Lamp,

"So, your current alias might agree that the tax-exempt status of many Christian congregations should be revoked for the politically-oriented sermons of their Leader?"

Hey... I've been predicting it for years. It's only a matter of time before gay activists go after church doctrine.

Go for it. It needs to be settled by the Supreme Court.

They won gay marriage. They should've taken the win, gone and got gay married, and left Christian businesses alone.

I also predict they'll lose.

God will not be mocked.

Our laws may separate Church and State, but God answers to neither.

He does what He pleases. God will not tolerate man mocking His laws.

#29 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-05-18 08:38 PM | Reply

Alex,

"The guy that bought a bible from a politician says don't mix religion and politics, folks!"

I bought a Bible. You bought a narrative. Seems we're both suckers.

#30 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-05-18 08:42 PM | Reply

#29

By 'God', he apparently means the John Roberts, lmao!

Roberts Nickname Contest Results!

slate.com

#31 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-18 08:42 PM | Reply

#29 | Posted by BillJohnson

Gay Activists... lol Okay

God is being mocked by the vast majority of Christians in this country daily.

#32 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2025-05-18 08:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#29 ... Hey... I've been predicting it for years. It's only a matter of time before gay activists go after church doctrine. ...

Why do you try to characterize it as "gay activists?"

I'd proffer ... if that you are really concerned about the Constitution, there should be a concern about the politics being preached from the pulpits of the Christian churches.


#33 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-18 08:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It's hard to take moral advice on sex and reproduction from someone who's never experienced either.

#16 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-05-18 07:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy

Dumb argument.

If he's never been to war or led an army, does that make him ineligible to comment on it from a moral perspective?

Should I take moral advice from a 50-year-old prostitute, with decades of experience?

#34 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2025-05-18 08:54 PM | Reply

Galax,

"God is being mocked by the vast majority of Christians in this country daily."

I don't know about "vast majority" but I do agree there are many who profess to be Christian who, on Judgment Day, will hear Jesus say, "I never knew you".

#35 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-05-18 08:57 PM | Reply

Then there is this ...

... Pope Leo Snubs JD Vance After Inaugural Mass ...

And, what does that say?

#36 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-18 08:59 PM | Reply

Db,

Ah...so the satire flew right over. Got it.

#37 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-05-18 08:59 PM | Reply

@#35 ... I do agree there are many who profess to be Christian who, on Judgment Day, will hear Jesus say, "I never knew you". ..

Can you say, "MAGA?"

I knew you could.

#38 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-18 09:01 PM | Reply

Hey...I'm Protestant.
He's just another man.

#18 | Posted by BillJohnson

Hey, I'm one of the 5.5 billion people on Earth who don't really care at all about Jesus's status and certainly don't think he was God. But that doesn't mean that most of the 2.5 billion Christians get to try to have their way with everyone else, Catholics or Protestants.

If it weren't for Catholics, there wouldn't be Protestants, and what really has the Reformation accomplished? A few thousand more schisms? Yippee.

#39 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2025-05-18 09:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

37. Many of your comments and arguments seem so bizarre, how am I to tell what you really think? When challenged too much, you claim you're never returning ... for about 20 minutes.

I take you at your word, frightening as it sometimes is.

#40 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2025-05-18 09:04 PM | Reply

Db,

If you go back and read posts, I get offended and quit posting when inappropriate personal insults are directed at my family or me.

#41 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-05-18 09:17 PM | Reply

@#41 ... I get offended ...

Is that why you did not reply to my #36?


#42 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-18 09:37 PM | Reply

Hey...I'm Protestant.
He's just another man.

Jesus was "just another man".

He was probably a good person. He had really good morals. Unlike Christians today apparently.

But not as wise and good and caring for other sentient beings as Siddhartha Gautama.

Sid gave actual instructions for humans so that they may learn to relieve their own suffering with no need to pray to the gods to intervene. Apparently the gods are really not all that nice to humans.

If them gods are making you sad or trying scare you into worshipping them like some humans do ...

F em.

#43 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-05-18 09:57 PM | Reply

I think someone who voted for a convicted sex offender and fraud THREE TIMES should STFU about morality.

#44 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-05-19 12:46 AM | Reply

Lamp,

#36
"Then there is this ...
... Pope Leo Snubs JD Vance After Inaugural Mass ...
And, what does that say?"

It says nothing that matters to me. I don't follow the Pope.

You're claiming Vance was snubbed. I don't know.

If that was a snub, it says more about the Pope than it does about Vance.

#45 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-05-19 03:34 PM | Reply

If that was a snub, it says more about the Pope than it does about Vance.

Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-05-19 03:34 PM | Reply

It says that the Pope doesn't put up with fascism. That's what it says to me.

#46 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-05-19 03:37 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"If that was a snub, it says more about the Pope"

Yes, it says he has taste and discretion. And America is, once again, looking like a fool. Other countries sent their leaders: "Leo met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and Peruvian President Dina Ercilia Boluarte Zegarra".

America sent the second team. Rather insulting to the Pope.

#47 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-05-19 03:42 PM | Reply

Laura,

Maybe the Pope didn't want to be seen playing favorites.

Sure...run with the "fascism" angle if it helps your narrative.

#48 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-05-19 05:43 PM | Reply

Laura,

Didn't the Pope hold a private 45-minute meeting with Vance and Marco Rubio the next day?

Not much of a snub. No drama here.

#49 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-05-19 05:51 PM | Reply

When Democrats and leftists claim to tell you something be assured it will always be a political and a lie. Leftists always hate Christianity and nuclear families. Sad but they are always sick, angry and full of hate of others.

#50 | Posted by Robson at 2025-05-19 07:35 PM | Reply

As for being "snubbed" the pope met with JD Vance in private along with Usha Vance and gave h8m presents to take home to his children.

Also, Marcia Rubio was present.

Is that really a "snub"?

I ask this in all sincerity to the lefties on this site: Does it bother you when the sources of information you trust flat out lie to you?

#51 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-05-19 11:48 PM | Reply

"Didn't the Pope hold a private 45-minute meeting with Vance and Marco Rubio the next day?"

Sure. The next day.

BTW, is ranking the order of visitors important, like in America? You know, how it's symbolic WHERE the President visits first...?

Or does it not matter, for (R)easons?

#52 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-05-20 12:22 AM | Reply

"...presents to take home to his children."

Unfortunately, it was individual copies of The Ten Commandments, which America IMMEDIATELY condemned as an insult to President Trump!

#53 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-05-20 12:25 AM | Reply

We can all understand the pope's reluctance to meet with Vance after Vance apparently killed his predecessor.

#54 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-05-20 12:39 AM | Reply

I ask this in all sincerity to the lefties on this site: Does it bother you when the sources of information you trust flat out lie to you?
#51 | Posted by BellRinger

Are you saying the following is false:

"Pope Leo XIV spurned JD Vance on Sunday, offering him a quick greeting after his inaugural mass while holding extensive private meetings with other world leaders."

That's a lie?

#55 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 12:52 AM | Reply

In full context, calling that a "snub" is a lie.

#56 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-05-20 12:56 AM | Reply

Spurned is correct, but snubbed is an outright lie?

That seems pointlessly petulant.
Any difference between the two is of no significant importance.

#57 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 01:03 AM | Reply

There are so many people around the world whose problems have only worsened under the chaos wrought by the 2-month old Trump/Vance administration. No wonder the Bizhop of Rome put a low priority on meeting with a co-author of America's national policy to embrace war criminals and dictators and to burn the lifelines that so many needed.

#58 | Posted by Augustine at 2025-05-20 02:22 AM | Reply

Aug,

It's highly unlikely the Pope would deliberately engage in passive-aggressive diplomacy to show disapproval.

Deliberately snubbing someone to send a message risks looking petty or self-righteous, both of which are the opposite of the humility the papacy would aim to reflect.

#59 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-05-20 04:00 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

It risks looking intelligent and discerning; preferring to put good works above power-hungry authoritarians.

This Pope hasn't been subtle in his preferences of God over money.

#60 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-20 04:20 PM | Reply

You think the Pope is vain?

#61 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-05-20 05:08 PM | Reply

Deliberately snubbing someone to send a message risks looking petty or self-righteous, both of which are the opposite of the humility the papacy would aim to reflect.
#59 | Posted by BillJohnson

Deliberately snubbing fascists simply means you don't want to be associated with fascists.

Fascists are the opposite of the humility the papacy would aim to reflect.

#62 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 05:11 PM | Reply

You think the Pope is vain?

Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-05-20 05:08 PM | Reply

No but you are.

#63 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-05-20 05:12 PM | Reply

- You think the Pope is vain?

I've seen stupid, unrelated questions before, but this takes the holy snack cakes.

#64 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-20 05:15 PM | Reply

Corky,

You think he's motivated by "looking intelligent"?

That sounds more like the vanity of Wi-Fi prophets.

#65 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-05-20 05:24 PM | Reply

" Deliberately snubbing someone to send a message risks looking petty or self-righteous"

A Pope being righteous?!?

Stop the Presses!!!

#66 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-05-20 05:41 PM | Reply

#65

You need to up your reading comprehension skills, Bill.

What I said has nothing to do with his motivations; what I said was that to the world he looks practically human compared to Trumpers and their ilk.

Nothing at all to do with his motivations... which perhaps you are intending to imply.

#67 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-20 05:50 PM | Reply

"Deliberately snubbing someone to send a message"

What if "the message" is: to date, no one can name three commandments Trump FOLLOWS.

Heck, no one can name TWO.

Subtle enough for you? Or should we post the 10 Cs, and you tell us which ones Trump embodies?

#68 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-05-20 05:56 PM | Reply

- the 10 Cs

I like to think of them as the 10 Strong Suggestions.

#69 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-20 06:00 PM | Reply

Corky,

God can appoint a flawed leader if that's what He wants. It's Biblical God uses even sinners for good.

Pope Leo XIII said it clearly back in 1881:

"God alone is the true and supreme ruler of the world. Whatever the form of government, authority flows from God as from its source."

The Bible backs that up:

Daniel 2:21 " "He removes kings and sets up kings."

John 19:11 " "You would have no power over me if it were not given to you from above."

So whether we like a leader or not, their authority ultimately comes from God. That includes Trump.

And frankly, I don't believe the Pope is in any position to question God's will for America.

#70 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-05-20 08:41 PM | Reply

" God can appoint a flawed leader if that's what He wants."

So God wanted Hitler?!?

If so ... that certainly explains Stephen Miller.

#71 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-05-20 08:59 PM | Reply

Corky,

Based on various comments, I think some people see the Pope as a political figure.

He's not.

He is a spiritual authority.

His role is to represent Christ's moral teaching and not to endorse or oppose political leaders based on popularity or party lines.

The Pope doesn't answer to voters or polls. He answers to God.

And because of that, I believe he knows exactly where his responsibility lies.

#72 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-05-20 09:01 PM | Reply

Dan,

I knew a troll would post playing what if.

Was wondering who it might be.

#73 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-05-20 09:02 PM | Reply

Or whatabout...

#74 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-05-20 09:04 PM | Reply

@#72 ... Based on various comments, I think some people see the Pope as a political figure.

He's not.

He is a spiritual authority. ...

Oh, I agree.


#75 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-20 09:09 PM | Reply

@#72 ... Based on various comments, I think some people see the Pope as a political figure.

He's not.

He is a spiritual authority. ...

 

Now, please comment upon the apparent entry into politics of Christianity, and their apparent exploitation of a tax-exempt status, here in the US.




#76 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-20 09:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"And frankly, I don't believe the Pope is in any position to question God's, erm, Trump's will for America."

Fixed that for you Bill, no charge.

- not to endorse or oppose political leaders

That's exactly his job. The bible story ends with Jesus taking 1,000 years here on a newly created Heaven-Earth, combined dimensions if you will, with people who are like Jesus was after he raised... and it takes even Jesus 1000 years to teach us how to govern ourselves, which is what he does in the story.

You have a rudimentarily understanding of Christianity, and I'm sure your effort is appreciated... somewhere, but I would suggest you read or watch some teaching by people like Oxford's NT Wright, prolly the foremost scholar on the NT, and maybe the OT, and or John Lennox, the pure mathematics Prof there.

Good luck!

#77 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-20 09:18 PM | Reply

Corky,

"And frankly, I don't believe the Pope is in any position to question God's, erm, Trump's will for America."
Fixed that for you Bill, no charge."

You think the Pope and Trump are equals?

I don't know if you're trying to tarnish the Pope or elevate Trump to that of a spritual leader.

Either way, it's hard to take seriously.

#78 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-05-21 07:58 AM | Reply

They are equal in their respective Head of State status. Otherwise no. Not equal at all.

#79 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-05-21 08:01 AM | Reply

Laura,

I stand corrected.

The Pope is "Head of State" of Vatican City and is recognized as a sovereign entity.

#80 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-05-21 11:32 AM | Reply

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