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Holiday shoppers are feeling stressed as rising costs, family expectations, and social media pressures lead many to overspend and hide expenses from loved ones.

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Layoffs are spiking at recession levels, foreclosures are up 32% YoY, prices keep climbing, and millions are drowning in utility debt. This is Trump's so-called "Golden Age" -- an economy slipping fast while working Americans take the hit.

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... Sixty-five percent of Americans say it's nearly impossible to know how much to "safely" spend this holiday season in a recent survey.

The survey of 2,000 Americans who celebrate winter holidays uncovers Americans' financial strain, all the pressures they face when it comes to spending on gifts and "putting on" the holidays and the resulting emotional and financial repercussions.

It's a very difficult financial year for many, and respondents disclosed they've siphoned money from various sources in their lives, saying they haven't been eating out (25%), putting money in their savings (21%) or even purchasing groceries (19%) in order to put money towards holiday expenses.

Conducted by Talker Research and commissioned by Beyond Finance, the study found that only half of people (51%) have created a holiday budget this season, and of those, most (64%) have already overspent, or anticipate overspending.

And while some are overspending with cash and debit payments (64%), many are putting expenses on their credit cards (54%), pulling from their savings (21%) or using buy-now, pay-later plans (20%). ...


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-23 08:21 PM | Reply

Individuals decisions and individuals' debt problem to deal with.

#2 | Posted by MSgt at 2025-11-24 12:53 PM | Reply

Individuals decisions and individuals' debt problem to deal with.
#2 | Posted by MSgt

It's not a problem with the economy.
It's merely a problem with the individuals... who make up the economy.
Genius!

Guns don't kill people, people with guns kill people.
Debt doesn't kill the economy, people with debt kill the economy.
Genius!

#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-24 01:00 PM | Reply

I had promised myself I'd replace my ancient, lumpy cat-customized recliner with a fresh "new" upholstered cat scratchcer this year, but even the scruffiest used furniture stores are asking waaaay too much these days, so my desire for a "new" recliner this xmas is postponed indefinitely.

#4 | Posted by dutch46 at 2025-11-24 01:06 PM | Reply

Here's a fun holiday item to spend your money on: food, clothing and shelter for those in need. Try it--you'll like it...

#5 | Posted by catdog at 2025-11-24 01:29 PM | Reply

I haven't been in debt in over a decade. In fact, to get me to take on some debt the interest would need to be in the 0-2% range.

#6 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-11-24 02:34 PM | Reply

Americans are encouraged to take on debt, to purchase a home, to get the mortgage interest income tax deduction.

Debt is how most Americans get the biggest government handout of their lives.

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-24 02:52 PM | Reply

You can tell the tide is turning on the Trump Economy.

Because in good times, people going into debt and loading up on too many toys, is presented as some kind of Feel-Good Story.

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-24 03:11 PM | Reply

More Americans Getting Their Power Shut Off

politicalwire.com

Nice going, stinky.

#9 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-11-24 03:17 PM | Reply

I haven't been in debt in over a decade. In fact, to get me to take on some debt the interest would need to be in the 0-2% range.

#6 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Only the dumbest of morons think their personal anecdote outweighs statistical data.

#10 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-11-24 03:38 PM | Reply

Individuals decisions and individuals' debt problem to deal with.

#2 | Posted by MSgt

So people suddenly started making worse decisions under trump?

#11 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-11-24 03:39 PM | Reply

Individuals decisions and individuals' debt problem to deal with.
#2 | Posted by MSgt

What about the lenders? They made decisions too.

#12 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-24 03:44 PM | Reply

US BEA cancels advance third-quarter GDP estimate

www.reuters.com

Pedo 47 is concealing more dire news.

#13 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-11-24 07:35 PM | Reply

consumer economics

#14 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-11-25 10:38 AM | Reply

Only the dumbest of morons think their personal anecdote outweighs statistical data.

#10 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-11-24 03:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

I never implied that it does, raetard.

I simply refuse to take on debt anymore and haven't for over a decade. When times were good I used the opportunity to pay off my debts - mainly my home. I have seen the stats in the last few years and it isn't good for average Americans.

#15 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-11-25 10:42 AM | Reply

For the four weeks ending November 8, private employers shed an average of 13,500 jobs a week, the Automatic Data Processing (ADP) reported on Tuesday.

www.fxstreet.com

Another stellar month for the putrid orange pedo.

#16 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-11-25 11:32 AM | Reply

Simple search: what is money wasted on?

It's a really long list.

Having gone over finances with clients, people need to sit down and write out everything they spend their dollars on.

The amount of 'want' is hurting people.

I've done thousands of client analysis. It's a sad reality.

Left the business due to health so now retired and sitting back. Not sure why coming back here was even thought. Miss Kanrei sometimes.

#17 | Posted by Petrous at 2025-11-25 12:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The amount of 'want' is hurting people.

#17 | Posted by Petrous at 2025-11-25 12:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

IMO people got used to borrowing cheap money to get whatever they wanted. Inflation and interest are cramping their style these days.

#18 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-11-25 01:05 PM | Reply

"The amount of 'want' is hurting people."

The amount billionaires want is why paychecks are stagnant for the bottom 80% of households.

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-25 01:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

-So people suddenly started making worse decisions under trump?

No, stupid people who don't understand money are always like that.

This is a never-ending cycle.

#20 | Posted by eberly at 2025-11-25 01:13 PM | Reply

I have seen the stats in the last few years and it isn't good for average Americans.

#15 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Have you seen the stats in since trump took over? It's even less good.

#21 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-11-25 01:13 PM | Reply

"IMO people got used to borrowing cheap money to get whatever they wanted"

That's the billionaires too.
Billionaires sheer when the Fed cuts interest rates, and cry when rates go up.
For most of us, those rates have no bearing on our day to day finances, and we're stuck with whatever rates are when we buy a house; maybe if we're lucky we get to re-fi.

Poor people aren't the reason people are poor.
An economy that is designed to serve the rich at the expense of everyone else is why people are poor.
Don't you know any poor people? Surely you're surrounded by them.

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-25 01:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

-The amount of 'want' is hurting people.

It's addressed in the 10 commandments. That's how long that's been going on.

#23 | Posted by eberly at 2025-11-25 01:15 PM | Reply

I simply refuse to take on debt anymore and haven't for over a decade.
#15 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Good for you.

Got any advice for people who weren't born with a trust fund and can't pull that off?

How would you have them purchase a home without taking on debt, or is your solid financial advice to be a renter forever and never build up any home equity?

#24 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-25 01:16 PM | Reply

This is a never-ending cycle.
#20 | Posted by eberly

Typical Republican head in the sand way to go through life.
You might as well have just said your usual:

Thoughts And Prayers.
Nothing Can Be Done.

#25 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-25 01:18 PM | Reply

-I haven't been in debt in over a decade.

That will rile the bottom feeders here, for sure.

#26 | Posted by eberly at 2025-11-25 01:26 PM | Reply

It's silly, fiscally speaking, to not be in debt when you're wealthy.
Because inflation, makes long-term debt cheaper to pay off.

This is also why Capitalist economies always have a (low) rate of inflation.

Capitalism is an economic paradigm designed to enrich those who are already wealthy, at the cost of those who need things like jobs and loans, from those who are already wealthy.

It's sad having to explain "why inflation" to Republicans, but this is the economic reality we live in now.

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-25 01:29 PM | Reply

Poor people aren't the reason people are poor.
An economy that is designed to serve the rich at the expense of everyone else is why people are poor.
Don't you know any poor people? Surely you're surrounded by them.

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-25 01:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

People are poor for two reason mostly.

1) Bad decisions
2) illness (mental or physical)

#28 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-11-25 01:29 PM | Reply

"Bad decisions..."

Specifically, choice of parents.

#29 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-25 01:31 PM | Reply

I certainly hope no ignorant bottom feeding envious wimp of a man tries to come along and explain how fucked he is due to rich people.

That would be fun, however.

Any takers?

#30 | Posted by eberly at 2025-11-25 01:32 PM | Reply

Got any advice for people who weren't born with a trust fund and can't pull that off?

#24 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-25 01:16 PM | Reply | Flag

Sure do..

Double up on house notes whenever you can. Getting an IRS refund? pay it toward the debt. Do not purchase anything on credit cards unless its interest free for a specified time, or you can pay it off before it incurs interest. Stay away from new vehicles unless 0.9 - 2.0% interest. By 2 years old and pay cash - saves you a lot of $.

All things I did years ago to get debt free. I have two credit cards with no balance. Home is owned outright, as with the vehicles. The next vehicle purchase will be for my wife 2-3 years old with low millage and will be a cash purchase.

Anything else you need help with?

#31 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-11-25 01:37 PM | Reply

"Trust fund" LOL

#32 | Posted by eberly at 2025-11-25 01:38 PM | Reply

People are poor for two reason mostly.
1) Bad decisions
2) illness (mental or physical)
#28 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Are Americans particularly bad decision makers, are Americans particularly prone to illness?
If not, why is there such rampant poverty in America, compared to say Canada?

"The U.S. has the highest poverty rate among developed nations, with a rate of 17.0 percent using the 50 percent poverty threshold, significantly higher than Canada's average rate of 12 percent."

What are the bad decisions and illnesses that cause our 50% higher poverty rate than Canada?
None of you chickenshit Republicans can even attempt to support your propaganda with facts.

#33 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-25 01:39 PM | Reply

"Double up on house notes whenever you can"

^
That requires going into debt, so you've completely contradicted your prior advice.

#34 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-25 01:39 PM | Reply

"Trust fund" LOL

#32 | Posted by eberly at 2025-11-25 01:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

Yeah, anyone who can figure out a successful personal finances plan HAD to have been given a trust fund.

#35 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-11-25 01:41 PM | Reply

That requires going into debt, so you've completely contradicted your prior advice.

#34 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-25 01:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

It also saves you money on interest and gets you out of debt faster. You could buy a fixer-upper and finance for shorter terms.

There's lots of ways to be financially sound but a lot of people won't be disciplined enough to follow through. Sounds like you're one of them.

#36 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-11-25 01:44 PM | Reply

- Are Americans particularly bad decision makers?

Apparently so, especially when it comes to debt.

#37 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-11-25 01:45 PM | Reply

-Are Americans particularly bad decision makers?

Who is president right now?

#38 | Posted by eberly at 2025-11-25 01:47 PM | Reply

"There's lots of ways to be financially sound but a lot of people won't be disciplined enough to follow through."

So is that "Bad Decisions,"
or is that "Illness (physical or mental?"

Is it bad for the economy that there's increasing numbers of poor people under Trump?
Because you sure don't think it's a Republican problem to fix.
And yet you seem to think poor people themselves are bad people -- lazy, undisciplined, unhealthy. Those are bad things, right? Shouldn't we fix that up?

Should people who aren't poor be worried, when the number of poor people skyrockets? Could they be next?
Or is there no connection to the number of rich and poor, and the actual health of the economy.
It sure seems like Republicans insist there's no structure at all to poverty, and thus to the economy, it's all purely an individual thing.

#39 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-25 01:51 PM | Reply

Are Americans particularly bad decision makers?
Apparently so, especially when it comes to debt.
#37 | Posted by lfthndthrds

So then why is it wrong for the government to help people made better decisions?
Only conceivable reason is, you think more poor people will benefit the economy.

#40 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-25 01:52 PM | Reply

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