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Friday, December 05, 2025

The US Supreme Court has agreed to hear a case on whether some children born in the US have a constitutional right to citizenship. On his first day in office in January, President Donald Trump signed an order to end birthright citizenship for those born to parents who are in the country illegally, but the move was blocked by multiple lower courts.

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No date has been set yet for the Supreme Court arguments, and a ruling is months away. Whatever the court decides could have major implications for Trump's immigration crackdown and for what it means to be an American citizen.

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Records suggest I am also eligible for UK citizenship.

Not as valuable after Brexit, but any port in a storm, as sailors say.

The Titanic is sinking.

Can it founder for three more years? Until the midterms? Why not get on a lifeboat now.

#1 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-05 11:52 PM | Reply

The US Supreme Court has agreed to hear a case on whether some children born in the US have a constitutional right to citizenship.

This means they're ignoring the constitution again and going Trumps way. Otherwise, they wouldn't even hear this case.

#2 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-12-06 01:51 AM | Reply

Seriously, go read the 14th Amendment. Though, it wouldn't be the first time SCOTUS ignored it for Trumps benefit.

US is gone.

#3 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-12-06 01:52 AM | Reply

Question, if an illegal alien is not "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" then by what jurisdiction can that person be prosecuted for crimes committed "thereof?"

#4 | Posted by et_al at 2025-12-06 02:10 AM | Reply

Question, if an illegal alien is not "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" then by what jurisdiction can that person be prosecuted for crimes committed "thereof?"

#4 | Posted by et_al at 2025-12-06 02:10 AM | Reply

You've just thought about this deeper and longer than Roberts. The fix is in. I hope I'm wrong.

#5 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-12-06 02:16 AM | Reply

Question, if an illegal alien is not "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" then by what jurisdiction can that person be prosecuted for crimes committed "thereof?"

Posted by et_al at 2025-12-06 02:10 AM | Reply

If SCOTUS rules in Trump's favour. What's the chance of doing away with birthright citizenship for Trump's perceived enemies?? Ours aren't safe and secure either.

#6 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-12-06 02:39 AM | Reply

Just in time to inject uncertainty into upcoming elections and supress the vote. And for Trump to declare the results null and void.

#7 | Posted by censored at 2025-12-06 04:07 AM | Reply

GOP suppression of the naturalized citizens vote.

#8 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-12-06 06:11 AM | Reply

GOP suppression of the naturalized citizens vote.
#8 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

If only it ended there.

The GOP will use this to disenfranchise and discourage from voting everyone who might vote against them.

You want to vote? Prove to us that your parents were here legally, and their parents, and their parents' parents...

Disenfrachisement of all voters who oppose them was always the GOP's endgame. Just as it is with voter ID.

#9 | Posted by censored at 2025-12-06 08:46 AM | Reply

Just as it is with voter ID.

#9 | Posted by censored at 2025-12-06 08:46 AM | Reply | Flag:

Yeah, we should do away with all IDs
passports, drivers licenses, State/Fed ID cards

No one should have to show an ID to vote! or travel, or drink alcohol, or drive, or buy firearms etc....

#10 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-12-06 06:30 PM | Reply

Yeah, we should do away with all IDs passports, drivers licenses, State/Fed ID cards No one should have to show an ID to vote! or travel, or drink alcohol, or drive, or buy firearms etc....
#10 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Which one of the above are absolute rights protected by the Constitution, deprivation of which would block you from exercising your right to change laws through your elected representative?

After Alabama Enforces Voter ID, Shuts Down DMVs In Black Communities
Total coincidence. No one could have seen that coming.

#11 | Posted by censored at 2025-12-06 07:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#10 ... No one should have to show an ID to vote! ...

I disagree.

Here in Connecticut, as I have stated many times before, I have to show an ID in order to vote. And I have also stated that I support that policy.

The deflective rant of your current trolling alias misses the point.

It is not the need to show the IDs that is being questioned.

It is more the difficulties of obtaining those IDs being put into place for those people who do not usually vote for Republicans. It almost looks like a plan.

Why are Republicans closing down DMV offices in areas that usually vote against Republicans, making it more difficult for those people to obtain the necessary ID to vote?

Then there are things like this ...

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U.S. Appeals Court Strikes Down North Carolina's Voter ID Law (2016)
www.npr.org

...The appeals court noted that the North Carolina Legislature "requested data on the use, by race, of a number of voting practices" -- then, data in hand, "enacted legislation that restricted voting and registration in five different ways, all of which disproportionately affected African Americans."

The changes to the voting process "target African Americans with almost surgical precision," the circuit court wrote, and "impose cures for problems that did not exist."

The appeals court suggested that the motivation was fundamentally political -- a Republican legislature attempting to secure its power by blocking votes from a population likely to vote for Democrats....

[emphasis mine]


#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-06 07:53 PM | Reply

Voting isn't a right.

"The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State..." based on "x".

If the law only allows people to vote that are registered furries, it would be Constitutional.

#13 | Posted by Petrous at 2025-12-06 09:46 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

After Alabama Enforces Voter ID, Shuts Down DMVs In Black Communities

Total coincidence. No one could have seen that coming.

#11 | Posted by censored at 2025-12-06 07:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

Alabama also gave them the opportunity to go into county register's office and have a photo ID made that would qualify them to vote.

#14 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-12-06 09:56 PM | Reply

#5 Posted by Alexandrite

There is no way to know Roberts' thoughts on this. Cert votes aren't disclosed and it only takes four to grant. Granting cert does not even remotely suggest how the Court will rule.

Also, how do you know it wasn't a liberal block that voted to grant knowing they have a majority or better merits vote? I could see that block wanting to write a definitive contemporary opinion that slaps the current crop of idiots up side the head.

#15 | Posted by et_al at 2025-12-06 11:07 PM | Reply

Alabama also gave them the opportunity to go into county register's office and have a photo ID made that would qualify them to vote.
#14 | Posted by lfthndthrds

gave

It's cute how you call a requirement an "opportunity."

Did Alabama give them an Uber to the county registrar's office?

Did Alabama give them compensation for time off work to visit the registrar's office?

Alabama didn't give them anything other than more hoops to jump through.

Can you be honest and acknowledge that?

Probably not. Honesty has never been your strong suit.

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-06 11:18 PM | Reply

Must have one parent who is here legally, according to Trump.

That would prevent people from exploiting the birthright law.

#17 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-12-07 12:23 AM | Reply

#17

Would not a more direct and effective method be denying tourist visas' to pregnant people?

Presence subjects one to the "jurisdiction thereof," if not then by what jurisdiction can that person be prosecuted for crimes committed "thereof"?

#18 | Posted by et_al at 2025-12-07 12:34 AM | Reply

Must have one parent who is here legally, according to Trump.
That would prevent people from exploiting the birthright law.

#17 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-12-07 12:23 AM | Reply

Then they can break the laws of this land with impunity. Because you can't have it both ways.

#19 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-12-07 12:45 AM | Reply

#16 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2025-12-06 11:18 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

I can acknowledge that you're an emotionally disturbed, child most of the time and rely on your emotional tantrums to "prove" your arguments.

No one took anyone's voting rights away in AL. They actually made work around for people who would lose their county DMV.

#20 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-12-07 05:33 AM | Reply

No one took anyone's voting rights away in AL.
#20 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Sure they did.
You're lying.
Everyone who didn't go jump through the hoops lost their right to vote.

Last year, Alabama began enforcing a controversial voter ID law that disenfranchised hundreds of otherwise eligible voters who lacked the proper documents.
archive.thinkprogress.org

#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-07 09:58 AM | Reply

#20 Apparently, Left Hind Turds completely forgot about this:

Nuns with dated ID turned away at Ind. polls

About 12 Indiana nuns were turned away Tuesday from a polling place by a fellow sister because they didn't have state or federal identification bearing a photograph.

www.nbcnews.com


They've been trying to take away Americas' right to vote for some time now.

Your insistence on the bullexcrement of "no one is taking away voting rights" sounds a lot like the insane postings of Major DEI Boazo about how there's absolutely no democracy in America.

#22 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-07 10:05 AM | Reply

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